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Army ditches helicopters for new radical air assault planes
Fox News ^ | 5/11/25 | Rebecca Grant

Posted on 05/11/2025 3:59:20 PM PDT by Libloather

It’s a plane. It’s a helicopter. It’s both. Meet "FLRAA," the Army’s new tiltrotor for Future Long-Range Air Assault. This is how the Army will island hop in the Pacific to fend off China. And by the way, Chinese President Xi Jinping has nothing like it.

With a stunning announcement, the Army did more than ax 40 generals and open the door to AI. The Army bet its future on this radical aircraft, whose engines swivel to take off and land like a helicopter, or fly high and fast like an airplane.

This aircraft was on pace to enter the Army inventory in the early 2030s.

Then came the Army shake-up. On May 1, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth directed the Army to focus more on the Indo-Pacific. In that region, sheer distance and Chinese missile threat rings are locking out current helicopters. For the mission of air assault – when troops move into hostile and contested areas by rotary-wing aircraft – the hard truth is that the Army has a looming capability gap.

"We can't actually do the large-scale, long-range air assault today" with the speed and distance required in modern warfare, Maj. Gen. Brett Sylvia, commanding general of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, said last year.

That’s unacceptable, given Xi’s growing appetite for military confrontation.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Military/Veterans; Travel
KEYWORDS: army; assault; aviation; chachingchaching; flraa; helicopters; military; planes
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To: McGruff

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41 posted on 05/11/2025 5:02:23 PM PDT by combat_boots
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

‘1,700 nautical miles without refueling and carry 12 passengers at a speed near 300 mph.’

That number “12” is kinda significant. Unless hung on hard points the A 10 usually has a capacity of one. (pilot)


42 posted on 05/11/2025 5:06:29 PM PDT by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: McGruff

see #42, below. Different job.


43 posted on 05/11/2025 5:07:50 PM PDT by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Guessing... that’s the receiving pocket for when the engine rotates into the full forward flight mode.

It’s a gross amount of parasitic drag, but it goes away incrementally as the engine rotates.

It would be exposed or in such a configuration upon static takeoffs and vertical landings.

The drag is acceptable for the trade-off in capabilities.


44 posted on 05/11/2025 5:20:52 PM PDT by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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To: montag813

In this model, only the nacelle with the gearing swivels. The engine does not. Less mass to move, less problems. The airframe is much more aerodynamic.


45 posted on 05/11/2025 5:23:45 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (No two people see the same rainbow.')
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To: glorgau
"With a tiltrotor, they can zoom all over the battlespace with impunity ..."

Sooo, they're invisible, too?

46 posted on 05/11/2025 5:33:03 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
Money would be better spent on a contract for more A-10s. Proven technology.

The A10 has got upgrades...better radars and fire and forget missiles.

However the A10 can't land and leave soldiers...

The new can do this.

Anyone have an idea how many troops can be carried,,,,?... thanks in advance.

47 posted on 05/11/2025 5:36:03 PM PDT by spokeshave (Proud Boys, Angry Dads. Grumpy Grandads & Curmudgeon<p.s)
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To: spokeshave

The article states 12.


48 posted on 05/11/2025 5:40:43 PM PDT by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: freepersup

That’s what I figured, too. But it sure looks ugly when in VTOL or STOL mode, doesn’t it?


49 posted on 05/11/2025 5:43:08 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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To: Yo-Yo
"...It's much better than an Osprey because the rotors tilt, but the engines remain horizontal...."

It's still going to kill everybody on board in the event of a double engine failure so, no, it's not "much better than the Osprey," and it puts our servicemen at unnecessary risk every time it leaves the ground.

50 posted on 05/11/2025 5:47:28 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Update the Avionics suite and switch to transparent Aluminum cockpit glass and do a run of 1250 of them. Keep the assembly line and parts production alive by purchasing 200 more each year.


51 posted on 05/11/2025 5:54:41 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Libloather

It bears mention that except for the F-35 and a few small flight training platforms, all of the US Navy’s aircraft are multi-engine. And they still lose an airframe on average about once every two years because of a double-engine failure, usually due to fuel contamination.

So in time these things are going to start killing people because they failed to engineer in the ability to perform a safe landing in the event of all engines inop.


52 posted on 05/11/2025 5:56:11 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Agreed.


53 posted on 05/11/2025 6:01:12 PM PDT by redfreedom (Happiness is shopping at Walmart and not hearing Spanish once!)
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To: Angelino97

I don’t know what all goes on today, but in my Army days the Army had its own navy. Yes, I even had a ride on one of their ships way back in 1974. And I also recall Army ships supplying an Army garrison in Ethiopia on the Red Sea.

There’s duplication all over the place.


54 posted on 05/11/2025 6:06:15 PM PDT by redfreedom (Happiness is shopping at Walmart and not hearing Spanish once!)
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To: redfreedom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_of_the_United_States_Army#Currently_active_ship_classes
“During World War II, the U.S. Army operated about 127,800 watercraft of various types.[1] Those included large troop and cargo transport ships that were Army-owned hulls, vessels allocated by the War Shipping Administration, bareboat charters, and time charters. In addition to the transports, the Army fleet included specialized types. Those included vessels not related to transport such as mine warfare vessels, waterway or port maintenance ships, and other service craft.”

“For example:[1]

Troop and cargo ships over 1,000 gross tons that often carried the U.S. Army Transport ship prefix “USAT” with their name if they were Army owned or bareboat chartered: 1,557 ships
Other ships over 1,000 gross tons, including hospital ships (prefix “USAHS”), cable ships, aircraft repair ships, port repair ships and others without any title other than “U.S. Army” and a number or name: 108 ships
Vessels under 1,000 gross tons of numerous types that include the 511 FS (”Freight and Supply”) small nonstandard coastal freighters of numerous designs, 361 minecraft with the large Mine Planters carrying U.S. Army Mine Planter (prefix “USAMP”) with a number above a name, 4,343 tugs of all types and a varied array of 4,697 launches and small service craft just designated U.S. Army with a number or name: 12,379
Barges and non-propelled watercraft that included 16,787 pontoons: 25,383
Amphibious assault craft: 88,366”


55 posted on 05/11/2025 6:15:02 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: redfreedom

The Army still maintains a sizable navy.

The U.S. Army Has a Pretty Well-Kept Secret: It Has Its Own Navy
Made up of “army mariners” instead of sailors, here’s how the Army’s navy stacks up against foreign navies.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a45690242/us-army-has-its-own-navy/


56 posted on 05/11/2025 6:17:16 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yes. It looks like an in-flight bird strike.

It seems to me that there has been an excess of crashes with the Osprey design, on the way to building a better “mousetrap.” In other words, painful lessons have had to be learned along the way at great cost.

Maybe it’s that they are scrutinized more because of the radical hybrid design.


57 posted on 05/11/2025 6:23:14 PM PDT by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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To: Libloather

Another corrupt uniparty political grift boondoggle, as assinine as the Osprey; which kills everyone in the event of engine failure.


58 posted on 05/11/2025 6:26:47 PM PDT by A strike (ICE ICE baby !)
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To: spokeshave

The A10 has got upgrades...better radars and fire and forget missiles.

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They didn’t have radars when I worked them 45+ years ago.
Having said that....

They have wiring out the wazoo to the weapon pylons for anything we’ve got, including weapons with tv cameras and radars routed to displays in the cockpit; the pilots used the sensors hung on the racks to figure what to hit. Worked pretty neat.


59 posted on 05/11/2025 6:27:24 PM PDT by dagunk
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To: Yo-Yo

“It’s much better that the Osprey ...”
Engine fails everyone dies..

stupid smile me that yoyo


60 posted on 05/11/2025 6:33:35 PM PDT by A strike (ICE ICE baby !)
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