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Quantum Thermodynamics: Black Holes Might Not Be What We Thought
SciTechDaily ^ | September 3, 2024 | SUNY Polytechnic Institute

Posted on 09/04/2024 7:34:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

A recent study underscores the dynamic nature of black holes and extends similar thermodynamic characteristics to Extremely Compact Objects, advancing our comprehension of their behavior in quantum gravity scenarios.

A paper titled "Universality of the thermodynamics of a quantum-mechanically radiating black hole departing from thermality," published in Physics Letters B highlights the importance of considering black holes as dynamical systems, where variations in their geometry during radiation emissions are critical to accurately describing their thermodynamic behavior.

The study also suggests that extremely compact objects (ECOs) share these thermodynamic properties with black holes, regardless of their event horizon status. The significance of this research lies in its contribution to the ongoing efforts to resolve the black hole information paradox, providing a more nuanced understanding of black hole thermodynamics in quantum gravity contexts...

One of the most important problems in contemporary theoretical physics is understanding what a black hole (BH) is. It is believed that classical general relativity implies that a BH is an object with a horizon, i.e. a limit surface beyond which no event can influence an external observer, and a singularity in its core, i.e. a point at which the presence of infinite implies that the laws of physics fail.

On the other hand, recent approaches, both classical and quantum, have shown that what we call BH could be an object without both horizons and singularities. Objects of this type are also called Extremely Compact Object (ECO), to distinguish them from the "traditional" concept of BH.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; blackhole; blackholes; darkenergy; darkforce; darkmatter; informationparadox; physics; quantummechanics; science; speedofdark; stringtheory; thermodynamics
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1 posted on 09/04/2024 7:34:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 09/04/2024 7:35:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Bkmk


3 posted on 09/04/2024 7:36:13 AM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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4 posted on 09/04/2024 7:39:45 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: SunkenCiv

Tohu wa-bohu

(”waste and void,” “formless and empty,” or “chaos and desolation”) Biblical Hebrew phrase in Genesis 1:2 describing the condition of the earth before God said, “Let there be light” (Gen. 1:3)


5 posted on 09/04/2024 7:40:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sorry but there are some things that can only be the subject of speculation and conjecture. They can never be visited or directly oberved or definitively analyzed to determine their true nature. Black holes are of that type.


6 posted on 09/04/2024 7:44:42 AM PDT by allendale
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To: Magnum44

I’m amazed the scientific community hasn’t been hit yet with a racial discrimination lawsuit for adopting the term “Black Hole” to describe an astrophysical anomaly.


7 posted on 09/04/2024 7:52:59 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s just a really dense object. It’s not magic. Scientists should have named it RDO (really dense object) instead of black hole. Then, perhaps, people wouldn’t imagine it’s a magic place.


8 posted on 09/04/2024 7:53:39 AM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: SunkenCiv

I wonder if scientist will ever admit that ‘Global Warming’ isn’t what they ‘thought it was’???

Except most of those harping about Global Warming aren’t actually ‘scientist’, and the only actual science involved is the mathematics needed to calculate how much tax revenue they can raise in ‘carbon credits’, and how much of it they can steal before everybody figures out that Global Warming is nothing more than pseudoscience bunk.


9 posted on 09/04/2024 7:58:13 AM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: 4Runner
Nothing PC about the term. Its just physics...Now get in the black hole


10 posted on 09/04/2024 7:58:26 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: SunkenCiv

Ya know what? That’s exactly what I’ve been preaching for years!


11 posted on 09/04/2024 7:58:34 AM PDT by Afterguard
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To: 4Runner

There are conceptual “white holes”...starting to think that physics may be close to the asymptote of knowledge. Thank you Planck and Heisenberg.


12 posted on 09/04/2024 8:01:38 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for posting these. It is a good break from politics


13 posted on 09/04/2024 8:09:16 AM PDT by Fai Mao (The US government is run by pedophiles and Perverts for pedophiles and perverts.)
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To: Getready
Thank you Planck and Heisenberg.

Your welcome.


14 posted on 09/04/2024 8:17:56 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: SunkenCiv
"...black holes as dynamical systems..."

Who wrote this?


15 posted on 09/04/2024 8:18:47 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: allendale

Many fields have topics that are solid and other topics that are speculative. The ratio of the speculative to the solid may vary by field, but you can probably find something speculative in all fields.

I think cosmology and evolution are both speculative. Macro-economics is more speculative than micro-economics. Political science? I don’t know but will speculate that it is all speculative. Perhaps a lot is known about nutrition, however it seems obvious that a lot is also speculative. Environmentalism? Well, yes clean water is good and smog is bad. However, once you get past the basics, much of it is speculative at best. Anything with a taint of Marxism is just flat-out wrong.


16 posted on 09/04/2024 8:25:57 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Scarborough: "This is the Best Biden ever.")
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To: SunkenCiv

I was just saying the same thing last night, after several drinks.


17 posted on 09/04/2024 8:33:51 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Larry Lucido

By a weird coincidence, Calcutta is in India.


18 posted on 09/04/2024 8:36:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: ChessExpert

Very little of theoretical physics can be experimentally proven. It is philosophy at its best.


19 posted on 09/04/2024 8:38:48 AM PDT by allendale
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To: SunkenCiv
Black Holes Might Not Be What We Thought

True of pretty much anything.

20 posted on 09/04/2024 8:39:48 AM PDT by xoxox
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