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White House National Security chief says UFOs are having an 'impact on our training ranges' and need to be treated as a 'legitimate issue'
UK Daily Mail ^ | 07/18/2023 | Matthew Phelan

Posted on 07/18/2023 10:29:23 AM PDT by DFG

UFOs are already having an impact on combat training for America's fighter pilots, a top national security official has warned.

'Some of these phenomena, we know, have already had an impact on our training ranges,' according to John Kirby, the National Security Council's Coordinator for Strategic Communications under President Biden.

The comments suggest a new approach from the White House, whose press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre coyly dismissed questions about the F-22 stealth raptor jets that shot down three UFOs last February by saying, 'I love E.T. the movie.'

Kirby, a retired rear admiral in the US Navy, said the unanswered questions surrounding UFOs must now be treated as a 'legitimate issue'.

In a White House briefing Monday, he told reporters: 'When pilots are out trying to do training in the air and they see these things, they're not sure what they are, and it can have an impact on their ability to perfect their skills.'

While Admiral Kirby emphasized that the Pentagon is taking the UFO issue 'seriously,' he declined to answer questions on 'individual whistleblowers' — specifically retired senior intelligence officer David Grusch, whose explosive UFO claims have sparked open congressional oversight hearings set for July 26 next week.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Military/Veterans; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: astronomy; chuckschumer; distraction; florida; fringe; kirby; marcorubio; mikegallagher; military; newyork; ohsomysteriouso; science; training; ufo; ufos; wisconsin
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To: Openurmind

So you don’t want a discussion just a “We’re right everyone else is wrong!” cheerleading session!

Sounds good have fun!


61 posted on 07/18/2023 12:11:55 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: x
I’m a skeptic too, but right now we can do so much with drones that if we had supersecret technologies, we could still keep them under wraps.

So we have drones that, as some pilots have witnessed, that can travel Mach 15 in the atmosphere, make right-angle turns, and dive into the ocean?

And again, why, after 50 years, don't we have an entire Air Force of these planes, so that everybody knows not to mess with us?

62 posted on 07/18/2023 12:14:50 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

All you have to do is bring credible information into the thread, or discuss the material without derision. The base thrust of your comment to me was that I am a gullible fool. So, in actual fact, you opened conversation to me with a veiled insult.


63 posted on 07/18/2023 12:29:40 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: gundog

Thank you, Phillip Klass. You have added meaningful information to the thread.


64 posted on 07/18/2023 12:31:06 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Peace out


65 posted on 07/18/2023 12:31:33 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (“We should not assume civilization is robust”)
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To: Reily

“So you don’t want a discussion just a “We’re right everyone else is wrong!” cheerleading session!”

Predictable... Right to being derogatory.

Of course not. Open civil debate is always productive. But is that why you came when you saw the title? You obviously cannot stand the concept so why even pay any attention to it at all? I suspect you came to make sure no one else could even have productive open debate.


66 posted on 07/18/2023 12:32:01 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: DesertRhino
UFOs were the go to excuse as a 1950s cover story

All you had to do to de-bunk those was to smile knowingly, shake your head, and twirl your finger around one ear. It was easy to cover up because it matched what people wanted to believe.

67 posted on 07/18/2023 12:33:21 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Openurmind

Explain the physics and the consequences of the physics existing!


68 posted on 07/18/2023 12:39:03 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: OHPatriot

Kirby was a career mouthpiece, Ie “public affairs officer.” His entire career was spreading PR to the press. No command experience of any kind. Last military assignment was PR guy at the Pentagon. How that non-career qualified him for admiral’s rank will be an enduring mystery. Must have known somebody.


69 posted on 07/18/2023 12:43:11 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Get back to me when legitimate issues like cocaine in the White House can be traced to who owns it.

That ain't gonna happen, the story is done.

Maybe you better start looking at the "SQUIRREL"..

70 posted on 07/18/2023 12:45:38 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: lee martell

If UFOs are real, there’s nothing we can do about a culture with the ability to navigate between stars.

If UFOs are Chinese or Russian, that’s a big honkin’ deal.

If UFO’s are just a squirrel, . . .

I’m betting on number 3. But only number 2 requires us to turn on the news 24/7. But if it were number 2 (Russia), the military-industrial folks would already be jumping up and down to get more funding. So it isn’t that. If it were number 2 (China), our ruling class would be utterly befuddled about what to do or not do. So it could be that.


71 posted on 07/18/2023 12:49:18 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Reily

“physics existing!”

This is the problem... In our egotistical arrogance we think we know and understand every thing. When in reality we know and understand very little.

We are still very primitive with understanding physics and get reminded all the time as new discoveries are made. We don’t know even half of what we think we do. It is pure arrogance to even think we do.


72 posted on 07/18/2023 12:50:46 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: golux; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

... explosive UFO claims have sparked open congressional oversight hearings set for July 26 next week.

Interesting. I searched on the news for when this date was announced and the earliest I found was 22 hours ago.

Around 26 hours ago on the Vega thread, I had posted and linked the same date for another reason entirely. It (8 Av) was the date of the first star photograph.

VEGA, THE STAR AT THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING

Wed, 17 July 1850 = 8th of Av, 5610

The traditional date for the Sin of the Spies:

Spies Return (1312 BCE)
The Spies dispatched 40 days earlier by Moses to tour the Promised Land return to Israel's encampment in the desert, bearing a huge cluster of grapes and other lush fruits. But even as they praise the land's fertility, they terrify the people with tales of mighty giant warriors dwelling there and assert that the land is unconquerable.

https://www.chabad.org/calendar/view/day.asp?tdate=07%2F26%2F2023

<<<

My FR anniversary too.

Rear Admiral Kirby, speaking as the White House National Security Council's coordinator for strategic communications, told reporters Monday the Pentagon wants 'to get to the bottom' of the UFO mystery

Funny, I have the song in that same post. It looks like the dumbest stuff, I know. It'll all be worth the shame. 🫡

From the Bottle to the Bottom - Kris Kristofferson


73 posted on 07/18/2023 12:51:19 PM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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To: Reily

Humor me... This explains a whole lot for those who have put up a firewall of ignorance and arrogance.

https://youtu.be/p2hk8Qp8dd0


74 posted on 07/18/2023 12:54:41 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

Of course!


75 posted on 07/18/2023 12:59:04 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: Reily

I appreciate you taking the time to check it out. It explains a lot and will bring you up to speed on the situation. Concerning this topic it is well worth the time to at least see where the weirdos like me stand. :)


76 posted on 07/18/2023 1:07:55 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: ModelBreaker

China doesn’t even need a disguised UFO, they just send any old giant white balloon full o cameras and let that Baby float from coast to coast.

I guess the idea to paint a tribute poster of Chairman Mao on the balloons was shelved for now. Other than that, they don’t really sweat about spying as they used to. China is already buying up acres of land surrounding many of our military bases. Both parties too dense or complicit to stop that from happening.


77 posted on 07/18/2023 1:10:48 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: DFG

The stupidity is never-ending with this administration.


78 posted on 07/18/2023 1:26:11 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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To: Openurmind

Listened to it & not impressed!


79 posted on 07/18/2023 1:28:03 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: Reily

No you didn’t, it is three hours long. So you mental blocked and put up a firewall just as soon as they mentioned the letters UFO and/or Aliens.

See... You don’t want to educate yourself, you just want to disrupt any and all discussion about the topic.


80 posted on 07/18/2023 1:31:35 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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