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Break through the defenses-Douglas Macgregor Video of 25 minutes
Youtube ^ | 12/11/2022 | Col. Douglas Macgregor

Posted on 12/12/2022 3:52:45 AM PST by Phoenix8

It’s a video but here you are: —————————————————— 0:00 well let's look just at the near term 0:02 it's very hard to to look ahead of those 0:05 who do it usually get burned and 0:07 chastised for it but let's look at weeks 0:11 or maybe a month ahead and talk about 0:14 what the war termination operation that 0:17 the role that the Russians hope to to 0:20 launch might look like and what its 0:23 objectives would be not that we know 0:24 anything about what would actually 0:27 happen but if as I think we're both 0:31 confident Mr Putin does want to have a 0:34 fourth phase that terminates the war 0:37 smartly if not decisively then what what 0:40 would actually achieve that so we want 0:42 we're not talking about what will happen 0:43 but what both of us mostly you think 0:46 would be required uh to actually 0:51 um achieve a decisive operation 0:55 well I think it's important to go back 0:58 and remember that there was never any 1:00 intention whatsoever to conquer all of 1:02 Ukraine right remember this place is the 1:04 size of Texas 1:06 and to be perfectly Frank the Russians 1:08 really don't want to have to manage 1:10 millions of Western ukrainians who have 1:13 absolutely no desire to live under 1:14 Russian rule or government right they 1:16 never did 1:17 in fact Putin in a speech given back in 1:20 2015 or 16. it was sort of a statement 1:24 he made during a question and answer 1:25 appeared I think it was in St Petersburg 1:27 somebody asked him well what about the 1:29 Western ukrainians and what do you think….

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Both sides apparently are claiming they are ready to launch massive winter offensives.

Macgregor explains why/how he thinks it will be Russia.

1 posted on 12/12/2022 3:52:45 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: Phoenix8

Macgregor’s predictions and pronouncements have proven less reliable than Adam Schiff’s.


2 posted on 12/12/2022 4:10:24 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

He’s more reliable that Joe Biden and the West’s propaganda machine.


3 posted on 12/12/2022 4:12:11 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“Macgregor’s predictions and pronouncements have proven less reliable than Adam Schiff’s.”

Nice try.
Please try again.


4 posted on 12/12/2022 4:12:22 AM PST by cranked
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To: JonPreston

Yeah, the “propaganda machine” has certainly covered up the “fact” that Russian Troops overran Kiev in February 2022.


5 posted on 12/12/2022 4:15:49 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: Phoenix8

When does winter give you an advantage in war?
1. When the enemy controls the skies, and doesn’t have winter capable aircraft.
2. When you have troops trained and equipped to fight in winter and the enemy does not.
3. When you have rock solid logistics, and the enemy does not.
4. When you feel that given more time the enemy can reenforce a checkpoint.

When is winter attack a stupid waste?
1. When you are inpatient for summer offensive.
2. When your desperate for some type of advance.
3. When poor weather is no advantage
4. When your troops have wrong equipment, wrong training, and no logistics.

In this setting, the Russians have demonstrated potentially the worst logistical support potentially in history thus far. Ukraine may want strategic objectives to launch offensives in summer, but that would be limited.

We must assume if either side launches a ‘huge’ (not small contained with specific goals) then the impetus is political and not smart strategically. Therefore, based upon past performance, I suspect the Russians will do it.


6 posted on 12/12/2022 4:17:24 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Sorry, I don’t trust the opinions of people who work for the defense industry.


7 posted on 12/12/2022 4:19:11 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“Yeah, the “propaganda machine” has certainly covered up the “fact” that Russian Troops overran Kiev in February 2022.”

Or Ukraine been #winning since April or they massing a million man army or they losing only a minimal amount of military hardware and manpower or they kicking ass and taking names in Bakhmut or that the Ghost of Kyiv was real...I could go on.


8 posted on 12/12/2022 4:24:02 AM PST by cranked
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To: Phoenix8

McGreagr said no early than 12/10 no later than 12/19 540K
are going to attack...

Clock is ticking.....


9 posted on 12/12/2022 4:41:03 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: FreshPrince

MacGregor was also the first to suggest that the Ukrainians had lost over 100K men, you know, long before Der Fuhrer UrsalaIdiot dropped the truth bomb on your peddlers a week or so ago......

Go figure, huh!?


10 posted on 12/12/2022 4:42:55 AM PST by cranked
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To: FreshPrince

By the way, how does an ex-Defense Minister mistaken or confuse soldiers with officers given her initial before edit mention was 100K OFFICERS and her edited script afterwards became 100K soldiers?


11 posted on 12/12/2022 4:54:48 AM PST by cranked
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To: FreshPrince

One thing I noticed and wondered about was his comment on the state of the Ukrainian officer cadre.

He said they have been attritioned to the point where they have little veteran leadership left. I think he compared them to the German army of late 1943 where they still had a big army but few of the sergeants and lower level officers that were so successful in Poland, Greece, France etc.

I think one Way or another this winter will reveal who has been lying the most.


12 posted on 12/12/2022 4:55:02 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: Phoenix8

Yep we shall see!


13 posted on 12/12/2022 4:56:56 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: Phoenix8

“He said they have been attritioned to the point where they have little veteran leadership left.”

It’s basically an assertion that suggest that all the veteran Ukrainian soldiers, etc. have been either attrited - killed or casualties have seen them removed from the battlefield.

That Ukraine military forces are running with basically under-experienced or green officers and troops.

some recent reports within the last few days have openly said, I believe it was the guy who runs the US Mozart Group, that stated that the Ukrainians are fielding men ‘who have never fired a gun before’.


14 posted on 12/12/2022 5:05:23 AM PST by cranked
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To: Phoenix8
WT*

Paragraphs are your friend.

15 posted on 12/12/2022 5:08:01 AM PST by OKSooner ("Oh, the mad fools!")
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To: Phoenix8

“Ukraine closely guards its casualty figures, but its forces are believed to be suffering badly around Bakhmut.

“They’ve been taking extraordinarily high casualties,” Milburn said of the units training with Mozart. “The numbers you are reading in the media about 70 percent and above casualties being routine are not exaggerated.”

Despite their “tremendous morale,” Milburn said the defenders “have an acute ‘regeneration problem,’ which means getting new recruits into the line as quickly as possible.” This means those being thrown into the fight have little beyond basic training.

“Typically about 80 percent of our intake who are coming off of the line have NEVER EVEN FIRED A WEAPON BEFORE (emphasis mine),” Milburn said.”

‘Notorious Wagner Group Targeting Volunteers in Ukraine, U.S. Trainer Says’
https://www.newsweek.com/wagner-group-targeting-volunteers-ukraine-mozart-group-russia-andy-milburn-1765321


16 posted on 12/12/2022 5:12:49 AM PST by cranked
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To: cranked
<>"NEVER EVEN FIRED A WEAPON BEFORE"<>

That thought tripped my processer.

Growing up, I don't remember knowing any guy that had never fired a gun but by the time I was teaching school, I suspect many boys had not.

The right to own guns only counts if exercised.

17 posted on 12/12/2022 5:50:39 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (When did my Color TV become Colored TV? And Gay?)
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To: cranked
In addition to troop training in Ukraine, there are press reports of Ukrainian officers, NCOs, and technical personnel being trained in large numbers in Britain, Poland, and elsewhere on NATO courses with NATO curricula. This bolsters Ukraine's military edge because several years ago, they adopted NATO tactics and practices that emphasize flexibility and initiative at the lower levels and extensive logistic support.

As a result, Ukraine's combat troops are far better led, trained, supplied, and supported than those of Russia. And unlike the Russian practice of putting and keeping troops in the line until they are militarily ineffective, Ukraine pulls exhausted troops out for recovery, resupply, and to absorb replacements. Sadly, for Russia, there are numerous accounts of untrained and unequipped conscripts sent into the front lines and slaughtered.

18 posted on 12/12/2022 9:26:41 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: FreshPrince
"Yep we shall see!"
But some will deny their lying eyes. I doubt if anyone will apologize for being wrong or all the name calling that has damaged our FreeRepublic.
19 posted on 12/12/2022 10:43:57 AM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Hiddigeigei

I often think about that..people who see right in front of their eyes, yet still deny. Reminds me of the Pharisees who saw Jesus raise Lazarus...still didnt believe.


20 posted on 12/12/2022 11:07:08 AM PST by FreshPrince
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