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To: FreshPrince

One thing I noticed and wondered about was his comment on the state of the Ukrainian officer cadre.

He said they have been attritioned to the point where they have little veteran leadership left. I think he compared them to the German army of late 1943 where they still had a big army but few of the sergeants and lower level officers that were so successful in Poland, Greece, France etc.

I think one Way or another this winter will reveal who has been lying the most.


12 posted on 12/12/2022 4:55:02 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: Phoenix8

Yep we shall see!


13 posted on 12/12/2022 4:56:56 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: Phoenix8

“He said they have been attritioned to the point where they have little veteran leadership left.”

It’s basically an assertion that suggest that all the veteran Ukrainian soldiers, etc. have been either attrited - killed or casualties have seen them removed from the battlefield.

That Ukraine military forces are running with basically under-experienced or green officers and troops.

some recent reports within the last few days have openly said, I believe it was the guy who runs the US Mozart Group, that stated that the Ukrainians are fielding men ‘who have never fired a gun before’.


14 posted on 12/12/2022 5:05:23 AM PST by cranked
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“Ukraine closely guards its casualty figures, but its forces are believed to be suffering badly around Bakhmut.

“They’ve been taking extraordinarily high casualties,” Milburn said of the units training with Mozart. “The numbers you are reading in the media about 70 percent and above casualties being routine are not exaggerated.”

Despite their “tremendous morale,” Milburn said the defenders “have an acute ‘regeneration problem,’ which means getting new recruits into the line as quickly as possible.” This means those being thrown into the fight have little beyond basic training.

“Typically about 80 percent of our intake who are coming off of the line have NEVER EVEN FIRED A WEAPON BEFORE (emphasis mine),” Milburn said.”

‘Notorious Wagner Group Targeting Volunteers in Ukraine, U.S. Trainer Says’
https://www.newsweek.com/wagner-group-targeting-volunteers-ukraine-mozart-group-russia-andy-milburn-1765321


16 posted on 12/12/2022 5:12:49 AM PST by cranked
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