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Did the Romans Know How Old the Pyramids Were?
YouTube ^ | August 12, 2022 | toldinstone

Posted on 08/14/2022 8:31:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The Greeks and Romans were fascinated by the ancient monuments of Egypt. But they weren't sure just how ancient they were.
Did the Romans Know How Old the Pyramids Were? | August 12, 2022 | toldinstone

Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:56 Ancient history's ancient history
2:41 Greeks and Romans in Egypt
3:23 Wealthfront
4:42 Egyptomania
5:15 The Pyramids
7:00 Why the Romans were wrong
Did the Romans Know How Old the Pyramids Were? | August 12, 2022 | toldinstone

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: egypt; egyptiantourguides; giza; godsgravesglyphs; greece; greeks; herodotus; pyramids; romanempire; toldinstone; trojanwar
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To: nickcarraway

If they did, the reply might have been,”I don’t know who built them. They were there when I got here.”


21 posted on 08/15/2022 4:16:25 AM PDT by jmcenanly (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ― Winston)
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To: Claud

All radiocarbon dating is radiometric dating, but not all radiometric dating is radiocarbon dating.


22 posted on 08/15/2022 4:20:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Of course they did.

They were MMMMMMCCCXXXXVVVVIII years old..................


23 posted on 08/15/2022 5:14:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: SunkenCiv

Of course they did.

Herodotus told them in his History


24 posted on 08/15/2022 5:16:57 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: SaveFerris

“Easy. Stamped 1,400 B.C.”

I don’t think they’ve found too many documents or buildings with “B.C.” on them (or B.C.E, for you Ukraine supporters).

But then I’m not an expert in this area.


25 posted on 08/15/2022 5:40:39 AM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: Red Badger

lol


26 posted on 08/15/2022 5:44:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: bert
Herodotus' description of the Giza pyramids are interesting, not least because clearly his Egyptian sources of info didn't know much of what they were talking about. The names associated with the three major pyramids there are mixed but correct (Cheops instead of Khufu, Khefren, and Mycerinus rather than Menkaure) if apparently assigned wrong.

It's apparent that his sources mangled Egyptian history, assigning the "heresy" of Akhenaten to the much earlier Cheops/Khufu, restoration of Tutankhamen (originally Tutankaten) to Mycerinus/Menkaure, and putting the 18th dynasty Akhenaten after the 19th dynasty Ramses II.

This conflation by the Egyptians may have been the result of the later 18th Dynasty's deep interest in the Giza monuments. Revival of the Aten deity took place at least as early as Amenhotep III, but his son really went gonzo with it.

OTOH, Herodotus gives the overall duration of Egypt as 3000 years from his own time, which is at least in the ballpark (by his time, the Giza pyramids were about 2000 years old), and gives the construction of the causeway as ten years and construction of the Great Pyramid as twenty, without saying exactly how long before his time it happened.

He discusses the early, prehistoric Nile in an interesting fashion:
If then the stream of the Nile should turn aside into this Arabian gulf, what would hinder that gulf from being filled up with silt as the river continued to flow, at all events within a period of twenty thousand years? indeed for my part I am of opinion that it would be filled up even within ten thousand years. How, then, in all the time that has elapsed before I came into being should not a gulf be filled up even of much greater size than this by a river so great and so active?

27 posted on 08/15/2022 5:57:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

While that may be true and we now know it, the topics is what did the Romans know about the pyramids?

Egypt had an incestuous relation with Rome, but I suspect Herodotus was still the authority on antiquities


28 posted on 08/15/2022 6:02:41 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: Claud; SpaceBar; SunkenCiv

Actually more like political correctness. Remember Mary Schweitzer, the one who found soft tissue inside the femur of a T-Rex?

Have they not also found carbon for C-14 dating of more dinosaur bones? And yet these truths never get widely circulated and published - inconvenient truths that would empty their bank accounts and end many careers.


29 posted on 08/15/2022 6:11:34 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels ( Why I Oughta! Tired of leftards... Bang, Zoom, To The Moon!)
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To: BrandtMichaels
No, not political correctness.

And, there are no radiocarbon dates for dino fossils.

Mary Schweitzer found traces of dino tissue (blood vessels, cells, and collagen) in the mineral replacement that makes up a T-Rex fossil.

30 posted on 08/15/2022 6:28:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Claud
I believe it was primarily geology rather than radiocarbon dating that began to revise the age of the earth.

It was the discovery and hypothesizing about the meaning of stratification of fossils largely discovered through mining. The father of modern geology is James Hutton (1726–1797), a Scottsman who had studied medicine and chemistry before becoming a farmer. From the observation of stratification of geological layers and the very very slow times for both erosion and deposition he realized that the earth must be very old

31 posted on 08/15/2022 6:37:28 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: fidelis

I remember the special on the age of the Sphinx, narrated by Charleton Heston.

The “wind erosion” on the Sphinx was questioned as it resembles rainwater erosion.

Who were the “giants in the earth”?


32 posted on 08/15/2022 6:40:50 AM PDT by CTyank
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To: SunkenCiv

Whatever ~ No trust for biased ‘mainstream’ science, biased by taking any public money. Either they use their own funds or blind screening as to who the donor is.


33 posted on 08/15/2022 7:23:41 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels ( Why I Oughta! Tired of leftards... Bang, Zoom, To The Moon!)
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To: SpaceBar

Their parties were a lot more fun.


34 posted on 08/15/2022 7:50:24 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: BrandtMichaels
That's why it's not up to just you.

35 posted on 08/15/2022 8:11:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: bert
We know as much about what Herodotus said as the Romans did, so, what I've said was right on topic.

36 posted on 08/15/2022 8:16:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: CTyank
Who were the “giants in the earth”?

That’s kind of out of the blue for this thread. Why do you ask?

37 posted on 08/15/2022 8:27:02 AM PDT by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Eight minutes of blather to get to a one-word answer: No.


38 posted on 08/15/2022 8:50:45 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: SpaceBar

They obviously had better dating instruments than we.


39 posted on 08/15/2022 9:19:26 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: BobL

(with “B.C.”)

Oh sure they have. That’s how you know it’s authentic!


40 posted on 08/15/2022 11:34:47 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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