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Death of the 'traditional' date? Only a THIRD of dates now involve the man asking the woman out, paying, and initiating sex, study reveals
UK Daily Mail ^ | April 29, 2022 | Jonathan Chadwick

Posted on 04/30/2022 5:03:24 AM PDT by C19fan

Traditionally, men have dictated proceedings during a romantic encounter, but a new study suggests this could finally be changing.

Researchers in Kansas have analysed data from a survey of more than 20,000 heterosexual college students describing their most recent date.

They found that only around a third of dates (36 per cent) now involve the man asking the woman out, paying, and then initiating sex.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: dating; mgtow; pua; redpill; slutwalk
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To: 9YearLurker

Whatever happened, if you asked 100 women shortly after meeting them if they were interested in dinner and the horizontal cha cha afterwards, 90 might slap you, but the other 10 might rock your world...

I guess that approach has gone out the door now.


21 posted on 04/30/2022 6:02:35 AM PDT by srmanuel (`)
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To: Cboldt

Or a movie...


22 posted on 04/30/2022 6:03:24 AM PDT by john drake (Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
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To: dblshot

I am failing to see the difference in this and outright prostitution.

The only difference is that I pay a prostitute not for sex, but to leave, and not take half my stuff with her.


23 posted on 04/30/2022 6:04:52 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (The democRATS are not looking to govern, they intIend to RULE.)
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To: C19fan
There was only one truly comprehensive research study done on sexual behavior. It studied sex among all ages, races, marital status, income, region of the country, etc. And it wasn't trying to solve a problem, it was just to find out what all sexual activity was going on.

They were surprised that the people who had sex the most frequently were the people who had all 3 of these characteristics: married, claimed to be Christian, and attended church regularly. LOL

By the way, these were the same people who reported being happier with their sex lives, and also the women who reported attaining the Big O the most frequently. LOL

There's the worldly way of doing things, and there's God's way.

24 posted on 04/30/2022 6:07:13 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: All

I’d suggest England Dan and John Ford Coley.


25 posted on 04/30/2022 6:07:39 AM PDT by FLNittany
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To: srmanuel

I’d suggest that would, at any time, matter on who you—and the women—are.


26 posted on 04/30/2022 6:08:37 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: C19fan

I grew up in a time when the traditional date did not involve sex. Not in the getting to know each other phase, which took more than a few dates.

And now the traditional date does involve sex. Initiated by the man of course. Initiated by the woman, not traditional.

In FR tradition, I did not read the article to learn about other permutations.


27 posted on 04/30/2022 6:22:51 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Well said. Sex outside marriage has become normalized, and that is to the detriment of all.


28 posted on 04/30/2022 6:22:52 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Women hold out for something more than sex. While they’re spending quality time with you they can always step out with their married boyfriends.


29 posted on 04/30/2022 6:26:37 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: JonPreston

Hang out, do whatever, be unstructured. The wife and I never went out on a single “date”, that whole structure was just not us. Sometimes we go out to dinner with plans after and giggle “is this a date, are we actually dating now?”


30 posted on 04/30/2022 6:26:44 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Cboldt

Hardly. As stated, they are lower than beta. Often described as “black pilled” or maybe even in some cases borderline Aspergers Syndrome candidates.


31 posted on 04/30/2022 6:39:11 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: C19fan

Wait, you get sex on a mere date?


32 posted on 04/30/2022 6:41:29 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Trannies be wack." - Gays)
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To: C19fan

It is topics like this that make me miss Chateau Hartiste!


33 posted on 04/30/2022 6:50:32 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: dblshot; Cboldt
"...1 out of 3 are better odds than I ever got..."

I remember going to a nightclub way back when, and I could not get a gal to dance. I probably asked 3 or 4 women who all turned me down. I got angry and frustrated, and just began asking nearly any girl. No dice. Now, I don't know what kind of club that was, or what type of people were there for, or if it was even primarily for dancing. No idea. But I was sick of getting shot down, and I know many guys who never even progressed past the getting shot down phase and just gave up. Good men who had no knack for it, or desire to be persistent.

As for myself, I wasn't unattractive by accounts, I suspect was what gals back then described as a "nice" guy. I never pushed myself on anyone, I treated them with respect, and if someone said no in any fashion, that was that.

But I never had luck at being a "ladies man". And I would see guys who I knew were a-holes getting women to date and dance all the time. I never understood it, and still don't. In the course of my life, I have discovered (and been told) that every emotion shows clearly on my face, so perhaps I was unknowingly transmitting just how uncomfortable the process was, and they picked up on it. Or it might have been bad breath. I don't know.

I met my wife where we worked so many years ago, and we were introduced by an elderly patient with one foot in two worlds. (my wife had been taking care of of her, and she late told me that the skinny little 88 year old lady had been trying to set her up with any human of the male persuasion who passed through her room!)

My wife asked me out first.

I just don't understand dating, never did, and hated the concept. I can't conceive of how unimaginably weird and byzantine it must be today.

34 posted on 04/30/2022 6:57:52 AM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: C19fan

Women complain that all men want is sex. They give it to them, and when they bolt, they complain that there aren’t any good men left. The truth is men won’t commit to women who are easy. In relationships these days, no one is honest and everyone loses.


35 posted on 04/30/2022 7:00:03 AM PDT by Spok (Winston, how many fingers am I holding up?)
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To: C19fan; Lazamataz

Laz has been trying to be a traditional gentleman but I’ve been telling him that texting “DTF?” doesn’t mean “Date This Friday?”


36 posted on 04/30/2022 7:07:32 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: 9YearLurker

“I’d suggest to you that back in the day when we had a much healthier culture, far fewer than a third of “dates” ended with the guy initiating sex.”

A kiss on the cheek and a warm, “I had a good time, may I see you again?” was pretty much it. And even on the rare occasion when I was invited in for a “nightcap”, unless the date was going in the direction of a night of debauchery, I would usually turn the invitation down.

In my kids fraternity, when they hosted parties, every frat member had to sign a pledge that they will behave themselves as gentlemen over the course of the evening and that any frat member who may hook up had to introduce the girl to the frat leadership to ensure neither were trashed and both understood what they were about to engage in.

More than once, my kid, who was frat president presented to frat leadership a recommendation to remove someone from the frat for ungentlemanly behavior.


37 posted on 04/30/2022 7:14:43 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Todays conspiracy theory is tomorrows spoiler alert." )
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To: C19fan

Why does it have to refer to “sex!” I can understand “romantic intentions” but not sex. Men who try sex at the start are shown the door!


38 posted on 04/30/2022 7:17:19 AM PDT by vaskypilot
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To: C19fan

Why would a guy ever get married when he can “get the milk for free”?


39 posted on 04/30/2022 7:22:45 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Ouderkirk
"The only difference is that I pay a prostitute not for sex, but to leave, and not take half my stuff with her."

Channeling Charlie Harper (Sheen)? Ha.

40 posted on 04/30/2022 7:22:57 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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