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Death of the 'traditional' date? Only a THIRD of dates now involve the man asking the woman out, paying, and initiating sex, study reveals
UK Daily Mail ^ | April 29, 2022 | Jonathan Chadwick

Posted on 04/30/2022 5:03:24 AM PDT by C19fan

Traditionally, men have dictated proceedings during a romantic encounter, but a new study suggests this could finally be changing.

Researchers in Kansas have analysed data from a survey of more than 20,000 heterosexual college students describing their most recent date.

They found that only around a third of dates (36 per cent) now involve the man asking the woman out, paying, and then initiating sex.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: dating; mgtow; pua; redpill; slutwalk
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One thing I observed is the use of "date". My guess for most college students an alcohol fueled hook up would not qualify as a date. Dating culture has been dead on college campuses for decades. I am not sure if using the description "men have dictated" is correct. Men will do what women will let them get away with. Women set the ground rules.
1 posted on 04/30/2022 5:03:24 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

1 out of 3 are better odds than I ever got.


2 posted on 04/30/2022 5:05:40 AM PDT by dblshot
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I think the writer is confused between “dictating” and “initiating.” One of the other is usually leading the direction, and the follower can go along or redirect or object.

Risk averse people tend to not lead. Society has metro-sexulized males, more betas as a fraction of the whole. Another way to put this is “empowering women.”


3 posted on 04/30/2022 5:07:50 AM PDT by Cboldt
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Traditionally, men have dictated proceedings during a romantic encounter,

LOL! Nah, not so much. We may the ones who make the first move, but it's pretty much women who dictate the proceedings and terms of same.

4 posted on 04/30/2022 5:08:35 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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Without reading the article, what do the other 2/3rds of dates look like?


5 posted on 04/30/2022 5:09:59 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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Only a third of dates now include a, b, and the man initiating sex? Whatever is our civilization coming to?!?


6 posted on 04/30/2022 5:11:02 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Your analysis is better. First “date” sex isn’t even dating. Your “alcohol fueled hook up” is a better description.

The young women are all on the pill, and the diseases they might worry about are treatable. Some are even good looking. Women’s Lib has been a boon to men in this area.


7 posted on 04/30/2022 5:12:39 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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“Only a third of dates now include a, b, and the man initiating sex? Whatever is our civilization coming to?!?”

We need to keep in mind that colleges, starting around 20 years ago were telling female students to give permission to the male students when hooking up. “May I touch your cheek?, may I kiss your lips?, may I put my arm around you?” became checklist items and took the fun out of dating.

Men are afraid of being accused of something that prior to the lefts continued failures with social engineering was normal. Today, saying, “your hair looks nice” will get you arrested on sexual assault charges. No wonder men have backed off initiating anything.


8 posted on 04/30/2022 5:19:36 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Todays conspiracy theory is tomorrows spoiler alert." )
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I’d suggest to you that back in the day when we had a much healthier culture, far fewer than a third of “dates” ended with the guy initiating sex.

The “sexual revolution” was part of the globalist/Marxists bringing down our culture, the family, the US and, ironically, the population.


9 posted on 04/30/2022 5:22:05 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cboldt

Agreed. “Dictating” the proceedings would be known as rape.


10 posted on 04/30/2022 5:28:51 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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what do the other 2/3rds of dates look like?

she initiates the sex


11 posted on 04/30/2022 5:31:35 AM PDT by Jolla
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All formality and protocols have gone out of individual interactions.

If you leap frog the “HE calls, HE drives, HE pays and HE comes to your house to pick you up” part of the date... then it isn't a date. At that point SHE isn't too discriminating, and HE isn't worth the effort.

12 posted on 04/30/2022 5:35:39 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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Not so much “empowering women” more like “cuckolding men”!


13 posted on 04/30/2022 5:35:54 AM PDT by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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Thank God I did my dating the old fashioned way. It was 31 years ago my future wife agreed to go to dinner and a movie. We still talk about it.


14 posted on 04/30/2022 5:38:54 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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…. involve the man asking the woman out, paying, and then initiating sex.

I believe it is customary for the John to pay -after-.

15 posted on 04/30/2022 5:40:23 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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Soy boys and Disney groomers.


16 posted on 04/30/2022 5:41:21 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie. )
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To: Cboldt

It all starts with a kiss. You know,one of those deep tongue dives.


17 posted on 04/30/2022 5:42:04 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: Cboldt

The term “beta” is getting tossed around in a somewhat cavelier fasion and getting assigned to anything and everything. What I believe you are referring to are not so much betas but rather Omegas. They are even lower than betas.


18 posted on 04/30/2022 5:48:40 AM PDT by MachIV
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-- What I believe you are referring to are not so much betas but rather Omegas. They are even lower than betas. --

Omega-man! Sounds like a superhero.

19 posted on 04/30/2022 5:55:31 AM PDT by Cboldt
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Well, obviously a hetrocentric study if it doesn’t account for the dozens of other combitnations seen as normal by the Catholics and Jews of the Supreme Court.

And specifically, does it include men who think they are women who date lesbians?


20 posted on 04/30/2022 6:01:59 AM PDT by PAR35
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