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Scientists think they've found a big, weird moon in a far-off star system
NPR ^ | January 13, 202211:00 AM ET | NELL GREENFIELDBOYCE

Posted on 01/13/2022 11:39:35 AM PST by BenLurkin

The hunt for moons outside our solar system has just turned up another possible lunar world, a moon bigger than Earth that's orbiting a Jupiter-like planet.

The planet and its moon — if it really is a moon — orbit a Sun-like star that's over 5,000 light years away, according to a report in the journal Nature Astronomy.

"The moon is pretty alien compared to any moon in the solar system," says David Kipping, an astronomer at Columbia University. "We're not sure if it's rocky, we're not sure if it's gaseous. It's kind of in between the size of Neptune, which is gaseous, and the Earth, which is rocky."

This isn't the first time astronomers have spotted something that might be a moon in another planetary system, which is sometimes called an exomoon.

In fact, Kipping and his colleagues announced a few years ago that they'd detected something moon-like orbiting a different planet. That discovery has yet to be confirmed with additional telescope observations, and some astronomers are skeptical that it will hold up to more scrutiny.

This new finding needs to be confirmed too, says Kipping. "It's again another surprisingly large moon, if it's real."

Exomoons may be common, but they're hard to find Moons outnumber planets in our own solar system, so it stands to reason that planets orbiting other stars would also have moons. Scientists want to find them, in part because a moon might have conditions that are right for life.

"If you've seen Avatar or Star Wars, you're probably familiar with this idea that moons, in and of themselves, could be habitable," says Kipping. And real-life moons like Jupiter's Europa and Saturn's Enceladus are believed to have features like liquid water that might sustain life.

Scientists have found thousands of planets in recent years, but so far there's been no incontrovertible sighting of a moon around any of them.

"Finding these exomoons is extremely challenging," says Mary Anne Limbach, a researcher at Texas A&M University who also has been searching for moons. "These detections tend to be right at the detection limit. So it's often difficult to disentangle the noise from the exomoon signal."

Existing telescopes aren't powerful enough to let astronomers see moons in other planetary systems directly. Instead, scientists can only infer the presence of a moon. If they see a tell-tale pattern of dimming in a star, for example, that can mean a moon and its planet are passing in front of the star and blocking some of its light.

Limbach thinks this new find, detected with the help of NASA's planet-finding Kepler telescope, is interesting. "Certainly, you know, I think the object, the event, does warrant further follow-up with space-based observatories," she says.

Others are also taking a wait-and-see attitude.

"All the Kepler data is public and we can be sure another team will independently analyze the data," says Sara Seager, a planetary scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. "This is a fascinating but perplexing discovery. We were not expecting moons larger than the size of Earth. This system, if real, is more like a double planet."

"I don't believe it yet, but I think it's certainly a promising candidate worthy of follow-up," says Laura Kreidberg, an astronomer with the Max Planck Institute for Astronomy in Germany.

Finding "the biggest weirdos in the universe" So far, astronomers have reported finding hints of exomoons about a dozen times using different techniques, says Limbach. Most of those observations, for technical reasons, can't ever be followed-up or confirmed, she added.

But other exomoon claims can, like this new one as well as one that Limbach and colleagues recently reported.

Kipping notes that his two candidate moons both seem strangely large.

"But if they weren't freakishly large, we never would have had the capability of detecting them," he said. "So it's only natural that the first things you'd detect would be the biggest weirdos in the universe. They're not necessarily common, they're just the easiest for us to find."

New telescopes, like the recently launched James Webb Space Telescope and the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope that is scheduled to launch later this decade, will be much more capable of finding and confirming the presence of moons, even small ones.

Seager says astronomers would like to find evidence for a moon or supermoon around a planet orbiting a nearby star, because that would make it easier to do follow-up measurements.

The first confirmed moons in other solar systems will be exciting discoveries not only because they're moons and not planets, says Limbach, but also because, in many cases, they might be rocky worlds with the right kinds of conditions for life.

"I certainly think," she says, "this decade will hopefully lead to the first confirmation of an exomoon."


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; exomoon; exomoons; fauxiantroll; fauxiantrolls; science; xplanets

1 posted on 01/13/2022 11:39:35 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

new data == new fantasies


2 posted on 01/13/2022 11:41:38 AM PST by George from New England
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To: BenLurkin

3 posted on 01/13/2022 11:44:41 AM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: BenLurkin
This moon is not just big, it’s scary. I suggest that NASA send a moon-busting rocket its way, and pronto.


4 posted on 01/13/2022 11:47:12 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: gundog

You went and made me Google that pic to find out who it is!

Nicely played.


5 posted on 01/13/2022 11:48:53 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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6 posted on 01/13/2022 11:49:46 AM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: gundog

Beat me to it!....................


7 posted on 01/13/2022 11:50:11 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Leaning Right

That moon looks huge, however I hear the moon’s Cankles are even larger.


8 posted on 01/13/2022 11:50:33 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Leaning Right

No more Uranus jokes!...............


9 posted on 01/13/2022 11:50:34 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: BenLurkin
"We're not sure if it's rocky, we're not sure if it's gaseous."

They left out liquid. They only thing they know, I'm sure, is its mass. Could be a micro black hole for all they know.
10 posted on 01/13/2022 11:54:40 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: BenLurkin


11 posted on 01/13/2022 11:55:29 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: BenLurkin

Eventually they will find just about everything. Except Jimmy Hoffa’s body.


12 posted on 01/13/2022 11:56:13 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: BenLurkin

“scientists”

LOL


13 posted on 01/13/2022 12:02:17 PM PST by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: BenLurkin

Please immediately begin transporting liberals to their new moon colony far, far away.


14 posted on 01/13/2022 12:08:55 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: BenLurkin

Scientists can say anything. For example, a scientist can say Venus used to be earth-like but is now intolerable to life because of ‘runaway climate change’. They don’t have to offer any proof, just speculation and conjecture.


15 posted on 01/13/2022 2:39:34 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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The biggest weirdos in the universe?

If an exomoon has life on it, would the inhabitants be exolunatics?

16 posted on 01/13/2022 4:04:33 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Thanks BenLurkin.
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17 posted on 01/13/2022 10:41:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (If a-holes could fly, this place would be an airport.)
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