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A Weird Paper Tests The Limits of Science by Claiming Octopuses Came From Space
https://www.sciencealert.com ^ | 28 DECEMBER 2021 | MIKE MCRAE

Posted on 12/29/2021 5:57:37 AM PST by Red Badger

A summary of decades of research on a rather 'out-there' idea involving viruses from space raises questions on just how scientific we can be when it comes to speculating on the history of life on Earth.

It's easy to throw around words like crackpot, rogue, and maverick in describing the scientific fringe, but then papers like this one, from 2018, come along and leave us blinking owlishly, unsure of where to even begin.

A total of 33 names were listed as authors on this review, which was published by Progress in Biophysics and Molecular Biology back in August 2018. The journal is peer reviewed and fairly well cited. So it's not exactly small, or a niche pay-for-publish source.

Science writer Stephen Fleischfresser goes into depth on the background of two of the better known scientists involved: Edward Steele and Chandra Wickramasinghe. It's well worth a read.

For a tl;dr version, Steele is an immunologist who has a fringe reputation for his views on evolution that relies on acquiring gene changes determined by the influence of the environment rather than random mutations, in what he calls meta-Lamarckism.

Wickramasinghe, on the other hand, has had a somewhat less controversial career, recognized for empirically confirming Sir Fred Hoyle's hypothesis describing the production of complex carbon molecules on interstellar dust.

Wickramasinghe and Hoyle also happened to be responsible for another space biology thesis. Only this one is based on more than just the origins of organic chemistry.

The Hoyle Wickramasinghe (H-W) thesis of Cometary (Cosmic) Biology makes the rather simple claim that the direction of evolution has been significantly affected by biochemistry that didn't start on our planet.

In Wickramasinghe's own words, "Comets are the carriers and distributors of life in the cosmos, and life on Earth arose and developed as a result of cometary inputs."

Those inputs, Wickramasinghe argued, aren't limited to a generous sprinkling of space-baked amino acids, either.

Rather, they include viruses that insert themselves into organisms, pushing their evolution into whole new directions.

The report, titled "Cause of Cambrian Explosion – Terrestrial or Cosmic?", pulls on existing research to conclude that a rain of extra-terrestrial retroviruses played a key role in the diversification of life in our oceans roughly half a billion years ago.

"Thus retroviruses and other viruses hypothesized to be liberated in cometary debris trails both can potentially add new DNA sequences to terrestrial genomes and drive further mutagenic change within somatic and germline genomes," the authors wrote.

Let that sink in for a moment. And take a deep breath before continuing, because that was the tame part.

It was during this period that a group of mollusks known as cephalopods first stretched out their tentacles from beneath their shells, branching into a stunning array of sizes and shapes in what seemed like a remarkably short time frame.

The genetics of these organisms, which today include octopuses, squid, and cuttlefish, are as weird as the animals themselves, due in part to their ability to edit their DNA on the fly.

The authors of the paper make the rather audacious claim that these genetic oddities might be a sign of life from space.

Not of space viruses this time, but the arrival of whole genomes frozen in stasis before thawing out in our tepid waters.

"Thus the possibility that cryopreserved squid and/or octopus eggs, arrived in icy bolides several hundred million years ago should not be discounted," they wrote.

In his review of the paper, medical researcher Keith Baverstock from the University of Eastern Finland conceded that there's a lot of evidence that plausibly aligns with the H-W thesis, such as the curious timeline of the appearance of viruses.

But that's just not how science advances.

"I believe this paper justifies skepticism of the scientific value of stand alone theories of the origin of life," Baverstock argued at the time.

"The weight of plausible, but non-definitive, evidence, great though that might be, is not the point."

While the idea is as novel and exciting as it is provocative, nothing in the summary helps us better understand the history of life on Earth any better than existing conjectures, adding little of value to our model of evolution.

Still, with solid caveats in place, maybe science can cope with a generous dose of crazy every now and then.

Journal editor Denis Noble concedes that 'further research is needed', which is a bit of an understatement.

But given the developments regarding space-based organic chemistry in recent years, there's room for discussion.

"As space chemistry and biology grows in importance it is appropriate for a journal devoted to the interface between physics and biology to encourage the debates," said Noble.

"In the future, the ideas will surely become testable."

Just in case those tests confirm speculations, we recommend being well prepared for the return of our cephalopod overlords. Who knows when they'll want those eggs back?

This research was published in Progress in Biophysics and Molecular Biology.

A version of this article was first published in August 2018.


TOPICS: Astronomy; History; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: abiogenesis; astronomy; cephalopods; crevo; cryptobiology; edwardsteele; fredhoyle; fringe; godsgravesglyphs; ohsomysteriouso; panspermia; science; scientism; sirfredhoyle; wickramasinghe; xplanets
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1 posted on 12/29/2021 5:57:37 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

I guess a long ago failed plan by the luminous one from the planet Soectra?


2 posted on 12/29/2021 6:00:27 AM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: Red Badger

"In his house at R'lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming."

3 posted on 12/29/2021 6:02:40 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Mass hypnosis of society. So many people are blind to the Truth which is in front of them.)
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To: wally_bert

Cthulhu!........................


4 posted on 12/29/2021 6:03:03 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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5 posted on 12/29/2021 6:03:31 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Red Badger

“In Wickramasinghe’s own words, “Comets are the carriers and distributors of life in the cosmos, and life on Earth arose and developed as a result of cometary inputs.”

It’s called PanSpermia.

Ancient Aliens (History TV) refers to it frequently.


6 posted on 12/29/2021 6:04:51 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Red Badger

Great. The aliens from the Crysis games are real.
Where’s my Nanosuit?


7 posted on 12/29/2021 6:07:29 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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8 posted on 12/29/2021 6:11:18 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Red Badger

Rush called it...

...’Junk Science’.


9 posted on 12/29/2021 6:11:50 AM PST by exPBRrat (.)
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To: Red Badger

If you examine the structure of the tobacco virus, it resembles a mini space ship that could drift though space for billions of years conceivably with its nucleic acids intact. Always thought it could be the inspiration of some interesting science fiction. Apparently others thought the same.


10 posted on 12/29/2021 6:12:17 AM PST by allendale
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To: Red Badger

I think this is possible.


11 posted on 12/29/2021 6:15:39 AM PST by Ueriah
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To: Ueriah

Octopi and their cousins, are highly intelligent creatures............................


12 posted on 12/29/2021 6:18:05 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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13 posted on 12/29/2021 6:19:34 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: allendale

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11570281/


14 posted on 12/29/2021 6:20:56 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
Several years ago I saw a documentary about testing the intelligence of octopi.

The test which I remember was of an octopus being put into a cage which was locked with a type of combination lock which the octopus was able to manipulate from inside the cage.

The different octopi were able to figure out the combinations quickly and escape from the cage.

But that’s not all...

When an octopus which had learned the lock combination reproduced, the baby octopus was born knowing the lock combination.

👀

15 posted on 12/29/2021 6:21:06 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (God is good, He loves us, and He is always with us.)
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16 posted on 12/29/2021 6:21:41 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

They watched Resident Alien.


17 posted on 12/29/2021 6:23:21 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Red Badger

It cracks me up. These elite “scientists” cannot acknowledge creation. Alien life, sure, but where did that come from? It’s sort of like the people who think you just plug an electric car into the wall and charge it. No concept of its origin.


18 posted on 12/29/2021 6:23:23 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: carriage_hill
It’s called PanSpermia.

he said panspermia

Big Bang...Big Bang!

19 posted on 12/29/2021 6:23:40 AM PST by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Red Badger

I’ve heard this theory proposed before. Octopuses are odd creatures. Radial symmetry, copper-based (!!) blue blood, ability to color-shift its skin for camouflage, dog-like level of intelligence.


20 posted on 12/29/2021 6:24:39 AM PST by Flick Lives
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