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Bronze Age Tarim mummies aren't who scientists thought they were
Live Science ^ | 10/27/2021 | Tom Metcalfe

Posted on 10/28/2021 8:54:44 AM PDT by Sawdring

The mysterious Tarim mummies of China's western Xinjiang region are relics of a unique Bronze Age culture descended from Indigenous people, and not a remote branch of early Indo-Europeans, according to new genetic research.

The new study upends more than a century of assumptions about the origins of the prehistoric people of the Tarim Basin whose naturally preserved human remains, desiccated by the desert, suggested to many archaeologists that they were descended from Indo-Europeans who had migrated to the region from somewhere farther west before about 2000 B.C.

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TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: agitprop; ancientautopsies; archaeology; bronzeage; china; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; indoeuropeans; mummies; propaganda; tarimbasin; tarimmummies; xinjiang
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1 posted on 10/28/2021 8:54:44 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 10/28/2021 8:56:41 AM PDT by SteveH (.)
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To: Sawdring

They was from Indianapolis.


3 posted on 10/28/2021 8:57:31 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: Sawdring

That mummy whose picture is in the article looks much better than Nancy Pelosi or Maxine Waters.


4 posted on 10/28/2021 9:04:20 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Sawdring
But the latest research shows that instead, they were a genetically isolated group seemingly unrelated to any neighboring peoples.

Instead, it now seems the Tarim people descended entirely from Ancient North Eurasians (ANE), a once-widespread Pleistocene population that had mostly disappeared about 10,000 years ago, after the end of the last ice age. ANE genetics now survive only fractionally in the genomes of some present-day populations, particularly among Indigenous people in Siberia and the Americas, the researchers wrote.

Even more interesting that the Tarim mummies come from a people group that died out, but the genetics are still present in tundra dwellers.

They didn't travel as far as we all thought.

5 posted on 10/28/2021 9:05:11 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Sawdring
Here's one.

Here's another. This one comes from Deleware but makes occasional trips to DC when absolutely necessary.


6 posted on 10/28/2021 9:05:22 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Sawdring
Posted back in 2006:

Tocharians

Xinjiang Discovery Provides Intriguing DNA Link

7 posted on 10/28/2021 9:32:19 AM PDT by blam
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To: Sawdring

“descended from Indigenous people, and not a remote branch of early Indo-Europeans”

Seeing how “Indo-European” is a linguistic/cultural category and not a genetic one, there’s no way that a genetic analysis can actually contradict this thesis.

It’s like saying “French people aren’t part of the Romance language group because genetically, they are Germanic”.


8 posted on 10/28/2021 9:33:08 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Sawdring
The rivers were fed by seasonal snow melt in the surrounding mountains, and often changed course when there had been an especially heavy snowfall over winter. When that happened, the ancient villages were effectively stranded far from water, and that may have contributed to the end of the Tarim Basin culture, she said. Today, the region is mostly desert. (Emphasis added)

Mostly desert in anticipation of global warming climate change four thousand years later.

9 posted on 10/28/2021 9:52:21 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Diana Moon Glampers for Secretary of Education! )
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To: Boogieman
Seeing how “Indo-European” is a linguistic/cultural category and not a genetic one, there’s no way that a genetic analysis can actually contradict this thesis.

Exactly. Language is a meme, not a gene.

meme /mēm noun an element of a culture or system of behavior that may be considered to be passed from one individual to another by nongenetic means, especially imitation.

10 posted on 10/28/2021 10:56:32 AM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: Rurudyne
I think I see some family resemblance to Nancy Pelosi though. Like a twin sister from a different era. 🙂


11 posted on 10/28/2021 11:21:11 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Boogieman

Except we know what groups made up that linguistic group.


12 posted on 10/28/2021 11:59:03 AM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Mr. Blond

“Except we know what groups made up that linguistic group.”

Do we now?

So which ethnic group did the people who contributed the Indo-European names to the Sumerian king list belong to then, if we know all those groups?


13 posted on 10/28/2021 1:00:48 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

The Yamnaya are the root.


14 posted on 10/28/2021 1:42:08 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Mr. Blond

Perhaps, but that doesn’t tell us anything about all the subsequent ethnic groups that adopted Indo-European languages and the associated cultural traditions.


15 posted on 10/28/2021 1:58:03 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Robert DeLong

That is one stylish hat, to say the least.


16 posted on 10/28/2021 2:21:36 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: blam

I should have figured you had this back then. But I knew you would be on this thread anyway.


17 posted on 10/28/2021 3:26:11 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Rurudyne

And much smarter, too... 🤓


18 posted on 10/28/2021 3:36:28 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (I'm the one trying to save American Democracy...Donald Trump 6/21 at the NCGOP conventional)
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To: Boogieman

Since the Yamnaya, Corded Ware and Bell Beaker peoples are the ones who spread that language and culture, it tells us they came into contact with those other groups and spread their DNA. It tells us why northern Indians are lighter skinned with often colored eyes, for instance.


19 posted on 10/28/2021 5:01:16 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Deplorable American1776

The mummy at least knows how to keep its mouth shut.

… any way we could run her against Shelia Jackson Lee? She’d be a huge improvement.


20 posted on 10/28/2021 5:20:01 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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