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Legal Analysis: Does Alec Baldwin Have Criminal Exposure After Shooting Woman Dead In Apparent Mistake?Innocent Accident, or Involuntary Manslaughter?
Legal Insurrection ^ | October 22, 2021 | Andrew Branca

Posted on 10/22/2021 7:57:05 PM PDT by DoodleBob

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To: traderrob6

The props manager is as responsible as A**h**e Baldwin.

But yes, I think Mr. Baldwin should bear some responsibility.


21 posted on 10/22/2021 8:20:50 PM PDT by Fai Mao (I don't think we have enough telephone poles.)
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To: DoodleBob

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqgr6ZzB140


22 posted on 10/22/2021 8:21:10 PM PDT by xxqqzz
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To: DoodleBob

As always, Mr Branca is my go-to source for these types of stories

No better information can be found anywhere


23 posted on 10/22/2021 8:22:07 PM PDT by digger48
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To: DoodleBob
"The answer will, of course, depend on what the facts are ultimately turned out to be, but we can certainly explore the range of outcomes that would be on the table. cavalierly ponder the possibilities in a reckless and mercenary desire for readership"

There, fixed it.

CC

24 posted on 10/22/2021 8:22:15 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: When do we get liberated?
If he was a police officer who thought his gun was empty and accidentally killed someone, would he walk away scott free?

Probably yes, unless the victim was another police officer or someone in a politically connected family.

25 posted on 10/22/2021 8:22:30 PM PDT by algore ( )
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To: algore

Wow!

That’s a beautiful weapon


26 posted on 10/22/2021 8:23:06 PM PDT by digger48
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To: DoodleBob

There are reports that the prop manager was a new hire.

What happened with the previous one? A whistleblower?

COVID quarantine/testing issues? Vaccination issues?

Who was responsible for hiring and training the replacement?


27 posted on 10/22/2021 8:23:22 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Fido969

They’ve been converted to cartridges. ,38 Special, maybe. Is that an 1851 Navy?


28 posted on 10/22/2021 8:25:01 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: algore

Colt navy from the looks of it. 36 caliber black powder percussion. Likely a Uberti repro. If so, how did a percussion gun, which you have to load manually and VERY deliberately get loaded up with a bullet? Now if it was a SAA the process is simplified. Perhaps it was cartridge converted for movie use?

CC


29 posted on 10/22/2021 8:27:43 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: bray

Yes.


30 posted on 10/22/2021 8:28:09 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: algore

P.S. The daily mail wouldn’t know a gun from a hole in the ground. Most presstitutes don’t know anything about firearms.

CC


31 posted on 10/22/2021 8:30:00 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10122433/Gun-killed-filmmaker-Halyna-Hutchins-set-Rust-vintage-Colt-pistol.html

Unionized workers had walked off the set hours before the fatal shooting, after they complained about long hours, shoddy conditions and another safety incident days earlier involving ‘two misfires’ of a prop weapon.

And the yet-unnamed prop master who oversaw the gun used in the fatal shooting was a nonunion worker who was ‘just brought in’ to replace the workers who left over safety concerns, a source involved in the movie told the New York Post.


32 posted on 10/22/2021 8:30:20 PM PDT by algore ( )
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To: DoodleBob

of course, it will all be about Baldwin and not the woman that died.


33 posted on 10/22/2021 8:30:40 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: PROCON; rlmorel
We can add his ugly mug to this meme, too.

Paging rlmorel...


34 posted on 10/22/2021 8:30:41 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2 )
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To: DoodleBob

My prediction is that Alec Baldwin will not face criminal charges (though someone will), but his superstar status as a movie and TV actor was destroyed in a split second.

The movie ‘Rust’ will almost certainly be shelved. It is a low-budget (by Hollywood standards) $6M independent feature. It was poorly run and Baldwin is one of the producers. They had crew members commuting from a hotel 50 miles away while working 12+ hour days. Then they swapped union crew members for non-union during the production. And most importantly, there had already been other gun accidents on the set prior to this and no safety meetings were called.

There were complaints made on the set prior to this over improper handling of guns. I can relate as I made a similar complaint when I attended film school because one of my fellow students brought a gun to class to use as a prop in a student film which the class was filming. I objected that no one on the set was properly trained for this and there could be a further danger if campus police had mistaken the performance for a real threat. I am pro-gun, but also pro-gun safety.

Baldwin will disappear from the public eye for a long while and attempt to come back, but he will never have the star status he once enjoyed. In my opinion, Baldwin would be partly responsible even he was not the one pulling the trigger. He had plenty of money, and when this production took a dangerous turn with regards to cast and crew safety, he should have either shut production down or found additional money to make sure it could be completed safely.

I’ll also add that a lot of these low budget productions have been happening because of the burden of dealing with COVID19. The industry nearly shut down for over a year, and filmmakers are looking for ways to get movies made. I’m even wondering out loud the extent to which COVID safety measures might have become a distraction from the much more serious gun-safety procedures that were obviously not followed.


35 posted on 10/22/2021 8:31:16 PM PDT by unlearner (Be ready for war.)
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To: precisionshootist

Why is there so much secrecy on what actually happened. I get it that one was killed and one wounded. But exactly what happened? Might it have been safer to have been handling a real gun, instead of a prop gun?


36 posted on 10/22/2021 8:32:06 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (If the votes are a lie, they must de cert i fy!)
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To: magna carta

Mr. Baldwin! I just have one more question sir....


37 posted on 10/22/2021 8:32:11 PM PDT by CletusVanDamme (Well I'm all broken up about that man's rights...)
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To: DoodleBob

I’m sort of a common law nerd, and I don’t think “I didn’t know the gun was loaded” has ever worked as a defense to manslaughter.


38 posted on 10/22/2021 8:33:10 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: Celtic Conservative

I wondered about that, but they sure picked a pretty one.

on the other hand, they might actually know of those antiques Sotheby’s roadshow guys, who when asked said yes we sold them that, here is our file photo.


39 posted on 10/22/2021 8:34:14 PM PDT by algore ( )
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To: algore

If true, the minor wound the director received is the least of his worries.

CC


40 posted on 10/22/2021 8:36:06 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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