Informed Consent @Ireland2020 Will all those who were vaccinated early be compensated for been mislead? #together #BeBraveAndSpeakUp #JustSayNo
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Posted on 09/02/2021 12:36:53 AM PDT by blueplum
London — A study conducted in the U.K. offers some of the first large-scale, real-world data on how well vaccination protects people against catching a "breakthrough" COVID-19 infection, and how well it protects breakthrough patients from becoming seriously ill. The results are encouraging.
The peer-reviewed study published Wednesday in The Lancet medical journal will help policy makers and epidemiologists fill in a significant gap in the understanding of the true efficacy of three of the major vaccines being used worldwide....
The data, gathered from December 8, 2020, through July 4, 2021, show that of more than 1.2 million adults who received a first dose, fewer than 0.5% reported contracting breakthrough infections two weeks or more after getting the jab. Among those who got both shots, fewer than 0.2% experienced a breakthrough infection a week or more after getting their second shot.
"Among those who did experience a breakthrough infection, the odds of that infection being asymptomatic increased by 63% after one vaccine dose and by 94% after the second dose," the study's authors wrote in The Lancet....
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
The Lancet is biased.
All based on a fake the PCR test initially run at such high cycles the results were meaningless, utilizing a test that has never been able to distinguish among a variety of Coronaviruses and has tested goats, fruit and Coca Cola as positive for Covid.
Still, the Crimes against Humanity continue, with Jailers distributing fake test data to try to prove they weren’t committing the treasonous crimes they have been committing.
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Opposite of the data from Israel. But then this is the Lancet, whose honesty approaches that of Fauci.
“A study conducted in the U.K. offers some of the first large-scale, real-world data on how well vaccination protects people against catching a “breakthrough” COVID-19 infection, and how well it protects breakthrough patients from becoming seriously ill….”
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Hmmm…Large-scale, real world data? We don’t need no stinkin’ large-scale, real-world data. Bah-humbug!
Hmmm…Large-scale, real world data? We don’t need no stinkin’ large-scale, real-world data. Bah-humbug!
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You support propaganda, I don’t. You pretend the real world life-saving results being reported world-wide don’t exist. I don’t.
well. the brit study was lancet, but the OK and DC data came from those states, so there’s that
Israel only has a total of 600 breakthroughs hospitalized. Of that, only half were fully vaccinated. Of those fully vaccinated 300..”often they were bedridden before infection, immobile and already requiring nursing care,”
https://globalnews.ca/news/8127794/covid-israel-breakthrough-cases-doctors/
i read the lancet study yesterday. didn’t impress me much. about as far away from a double blind, randomized clinical trial as you can get. proves zero, and misleading interms of their “defintion” of the unvaccinated, imo.
in terms of your other link (story), it contradicts itself in the last paragraph (buried lead) with a study that shows very leaky vaccines more in line with the hard data from Israel:
“However, in July, the effectiveness against infection was considerably lower for mRNA-1273 (76%, 95% CI: 58-87%) with an even more pronounced reduction in effectiveness for BNT162b2 (42%, 95% CI: 13-62%).” and that’s a pharma/mayo study so it’s biased as well).
If the jab works, why fear the unjabbed?
honestly, for the fully vaccinated I see an upside to breakthroughs. That is, let’s accept as a given that ‘natural’ infection is better than ‘acquired’ immunity. There was a study I’m sure you saw a few days ago that pointed to natural immunity is better than one shot, and natural immunity plus one shot imparts better protection than two shots. So going along that line of reasoning, a fully vaccinated person being mildly reinfected would convey the ultimate immunity to any further challenge by Delta or delta-alikes.
LOL!
but back to leaky vaccines. It’s probably more accurate to say leaky immune system, since those that recovered from covid are still vulnerable to Delta, but I kind of look at asymptomatic and mild reinfections the same way people decried ‘cases’ last year, feeling they were insignificant, and wanting only hospitalization numbers. So that’s what I look at. Hospitalizations/deaths count, all else is noise.
Want proof? Well, there ain't any charging wild elephants within a radius of 2,000 miles of here!
Regards,
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i’s easy to stop a charging elephant
just take away their credit card
why were the elephants kicked out of the pool?
because they wouldn’t keep their trunks up
nonsense. Besides the fact this thread is about breakthroughs....
Vaccine was trialed for six months so that is what the initial data was. The vaccine is still holding for six months even with a different variant. Politicians, hollywood, DC cocktail circuit, pentagon muckety mucks and assorted ‘essential workers’ from HCW to retail clerks (all still alive) were elbowing seniors aside to get it. What other guarantees do you want ?
And why would someone who refuses to get vaccinated even care?
“Just one in five Americans are refusing vaccination against COVID-19, the pollster said Tuesday, meaning vaccine opposition is waning across the country. The number of those who say they are firmly against the shot has also dropped to its lowest level, at 14%.
https://nypost.com/2021/09/01/1-in-5-americans-still-refuse-covid-19-vaccine-poll/
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WTF?!!
“leaky immune system”? not sure what that means. a healthy person’s immune system is never leaky. do you mean the immuno-compromised? if so, that has nothing to do with leaky vaccines. leaky vaccines simply don’t do the job they’re designed for.
the purpose and goal of any vaccine is to prevent infection by benignly notifying/stimulating your natural immune system to recognize and destroy any incoming virus thus preventing them from infecting your vulnerable cells and using them to replicate.
its job is to confer an artificially generated immunity from a disease, for a period of time that should amount to years or even decades. even the crummy flu vaxx is only given every year. that’s just a fact. by history and experience we know that artificial immunity is never as good as the real thing. thus we get breakthrough when a vaccine is leaky. breakthrough means virus is replicating in your cells. and thus you’re shedding it. therefore you’re potentially infecting others. i’m not even talking about the vaccine injuries here although there is plenty of evidence for that. that is an open question. at the point where you’re spreading the disease in less than even 1 year, the vaccine has already failed. period.
another fact is that no effect cold vaccine has ever been developed and that’s not for a lack of attempted failures.
this rushed “vaccine” (with two shots) which were in practice given about a month apart has a durability of about 5 months. there are enough studies with hard numbers from hospitals to confirm that (not the lancet). that’s just crap performance for a vaccine. yes i know this is not really a vaccine.
in terms of death rate (natural, overall odds), we basically had a fair idea of that last summer. the estimated death rate (yes i know we don’t have good test numbers or good death numbers) would be with the original virus and a fair (imo) estimate of that is about .00018 (my calc on natural odds using the cdc’s own data and conclusions about covid19 being the sole cause of death at about 6%, and which is in line with what i calculated last summer on the back of my envelope). yes i realize that the 80+ elderly has about a 5% chance of dying with the infection, but that was reducible by Dr Zelenko’s group treatment to .5%. and again even that proven successful treatment was suppressed by the FDA.
there’s really no medical argument for the vaccines left, imo. except the political one. and that one is more and more proving to be deadly and enslaving as we get more and more data (vaers, eudravigilence, annecdotal, my own friends experiencing serious vaccine side effects and injuries, etc.).
Do you realize what you're saying? You suggest that ultimate immunity occurs when someone has recovered from COVID, then gets two vaccinations, only to be reinfected by COVID. Please stop.
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