Legal Question: While Vaccine Manufacturers are Protected Legally from Liability, Employers and Governments Requiring a Vaccine Are NOT Legally Protected?

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[tired&retired]

My question relates to damages caused by a vaccine. If the employer requires the vaccine to maintain employment, are they then liable for damages resulting from the vaccine?

I understand that it would be considered a workman's comp covered event.

[Alberta's Child]

Neither has the Hippocratic oath been formally adopted into law, but it is a bedrock of medical ethics. Both are referenced in medical malpractice trials.

A lot of things are referenced in medical malpractice trials. Which of those things are based on actual points of law? And even if this is true, then this line from your letter seems like it's verifiable B.S. anyway:

... implements the internationally agreed legal requirement of Informed Consent established in the Nuremberg Code of 1947.

What "legal requirement" is this?

Anyone who is in a position like this needs to understand that you're not sending this letter to some anonymous jackass on the internet, or some random guy stocking shelves at Trader Joe's. The letter is going to end up in the hands of a corporate attorney who may read it and then advise the company to fire anyone who would put such a clear demonstration of his ignorance in writing.

[Its All Over Except ...]

Bookmarked.

[Ymani Cricket]

The Nuremburg code was adopted in the Declaration of Helsinki.

Alliance for Human Research Protection Advancing Voluntary, Informed Consent to Medical Intervention

"Does the FDA have the authority to trump the Declaration of Helsinki? "

However, as Dr. Goodyear points out, although not explicitly part of international or national law, the legal status of the Declaration of Helsinki and the Nuremberg Code are recognized. For example, both international codes were cited by several US courts: TD v NYS Office of Mental Health (1995); Grimes / Higgins v Kennedy Krieger, Court of Appeals of Maryland (2001) ; and in the recent US Court of Appeals, which ruled that the Declaration (and other conventions) constituted a sufficient customary norm to be considered binding in the Pfizer trovafloxacin case in January 2009. The court reversed a dismissal by a lower court of a lawsuit by families of children who had died or were injured in a Nigerian meningitis trial.

[Travis McGee]

The Nuremberg Code reference is also a reminder to those making the experimental mRNA jabs mandatory that ultimately they may be held to account.

The Nazis never thought they might lose the war and wind up being held to account, but they were.

Their defense was "just following orders" and "there are no laws in total war."

They were hanged anyway.

If dire birth defects, for example, result a few years from now, [think of Thalidomide], Fauci and Daszak could be hanged, regardless of the black-letter law in 2021.

[And there was no Nuremberg Code at the Nuremberg Trials. It came in 1947, out of the trials.]

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They were hanged anyway.

If dire birth defects, for example, result a few years from now, [think of Thalidomide], Fauci and Daszak could be hanged, regardless of the black-letter law in 2021.

[Travis McGee]

Fifty Years Later: The Significance of the Nuremberg Code

New England Journal of Medicine
Evelyne Shuster, Ph.D.

25 References
225 Citing Articles

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199711133372006

[Travis McGee]

"Some anonymous jackass on the internet, or some random guy stocking shelves at Trader Joe's. The letter is going to end up in the hands of a corporate attorney who may read it and then advise the company to fire anyone who would put such a clear demonstration of his ignorance in writing."

Since you are going ad hominem, I must ask you...

Why are you taking the side of the Nazis in pushing forced medical experimentation on unwitting innocent Americans?

Are you related to Dr. Mengele?

Are you profiting from the billions and billions being raked in by Big Pharma for their experimental synthetic mRNA spike protein jabs?

[Steve Van Doorn]

if you had covid look into T-Detect.com
The FDA approved this test recently which i'm surprised.

[Travis McGee]

Thank you for that reference.

[RonaldusMagnus-DonaldusMagnus]

The Nuremberg Code, is however, one of the pillars of clinical research.

The Belmont Report, issued by the federal government in 1978 - and highly influenced by the Nuremberg Code - outlined ethical principles that should govern clinical research and clinical trials.

One of these is “respect for persons”

[fruser1]

I don't see a use for the clause at the Cornell link:

"Subsection bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(III) "

Appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed— of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.

So as long as the employer tells you the consequence of not taking it is getting fired, they are covered.

I don't agree that vaccines should be forced in this way, I just don't see this particular clause as a good legal defense.

[jacknhoo]

Joe Biden stated in one of his lame news conferences that he would have the private employer’s backs when requiring their employees be vaccinated.

[mewzilla]

And, interestingly, we haven’t heard them yelling at Congress it about.

Or the lack of CoupFlu liability protection for biz in general.

[Travis McGee]

You are going to be fired, for sure.

The point is to get your legal claim on the record for later use.

If the synthetic experimental mRNA spike protein jab turns out to have adverse side effects, companies that forced employees to take it are going to be held legally liable.

Remember, the Nazis never thought they’d lose the war and be held to account either. Their defenses (1. Just following orders, 2. No rules in total war) did not save them.

[TexasGunLover]

In at will states, you’ll just be fired. No fuss, no muss.

[browniexyz]

Great summation.

The FDA will soon find that at least one of the vaccines is “safe and effective” (some say as soon as September 6) and then a lot of the arguments are gone.

Also, if your employer is a state or federal entity, there is no liability because of the doctrine of sovereign immunity.

[glimmerman70]

They are protected. Maybe not by law but by government. They seriously want EVERYONE vaccinated. Soon you will need a chip either in your hand or on your forehead to buy things or travel. The chip will be your “vaccination passport”. Proof of vaccination so you don’t infect anyone and are “safe”. Even though a bunch of my vaccinated family just had a get together and most of them are sick with it. But one thing your not hearing is the amount of people that’s had Covid and are catching it again. Don’t seem to be many of them.

[The FIGHTIN Illini]

Thanks Matt

[browniexyz]

Notably, doctors aren’t giving the shot.

Walgreens, CVS, and Kroger are. And hopefully, they have well trained nurses.

[Fury]

If you provide that to a boss, it’s going to expedite termination.

JMHO.

[Travis McGee]

>>>The FDA will soon find that at least one of the vaccines is “safe and effective” (some say as soon as September 6) and then a lot of the arguments are gone.

Also, if your employer is a state or federal entity, there is no liability because of the doctrine of sovereign immunity.<<<

That is true.....for now.

If terrible side effects result from the experimental jab, infertility, birth defects etc, even years from now, all that you wrote above will be swept aside, and the experimental mRNA jab-pushing principals will be hunted down and hanged.

[Images of thalidomide babies, for an example of what would cause such public rage.]
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=thalidomide+babies&t=chromentp&atb=v134-1&iax=images&ia=images

The Nazis never thought they’d lose the war and be held to account, but they were. Everything they did was “legal” under German law. Then came Nuremberg. They were hanged.

In these hypothetical future Nuremberg 2 trials, whistleblowers may likely come forward, (or testify under offer of immunity), that Pfizer and Moderna executives bribed CDC and FDA bureaucrats to obtain the EUA and later the FDA approval.

Bribery and corruption found at the start would undo all of the current immunity.

That’s why I consider it important to bring up the Nuremberg Code, as a reminder to the shot-callers pushing to make the experimental jab mandatory.

It’s not the black-letter laws TODAY in 2021 that will count. It’s the level of public outrage later, if the jab causes birth defects, etc.

Ask the Nazis about German law, during and after the war.