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Legal Question: While Vaccine Manufacturers are Protected Legally from Liability, Employers and Governments Requiring a Vaccine Are NOT Legally Protected?
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Posted on 08/12/2021 2:26:17 AM PDT by tired&retired

My question relates to damages caused by a vaccine. If the employer requires the vaccine to maintain employment, are they then liable for damages resulting from the vaccine?

I understand that it would be considered a workman's comp covered event.


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1 posted on 08/12/2021 2:26:17 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired

Can legal liability for requiring an experimental drug be placed upon those entities requiring we take it?


2 posted on 08/12/2021 2:28:35 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: tired&retired

Dear Boss,

Compelling any employee to take any current Covid-19 vaccine violates federal and state law, and subjects the employer to substantial liability risk, including liability for any injury the employee may suffer from the vaccine. Many employers have reconsidered issuing such a mandate after more fruitful review with legal counsel, insurance providers, and public opinion advisors of the desires of employees and the consuming public. Even the Kaiser Foundation warned of the legal risk in this respect. (https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/key-questions-about-covid-19-vaccine-mandates/)

Three key concerns: first, while the vaccine remains unapproved by the CDC and authorized only for emergency use, federal law forbids mandating it, in accordance with the Nuremberg Code of 1947; second, the Americans with Disabilities Act proscribes, punishes and penalizes employers who invasively inquire into their employees’ medical status and then treat those employees differently based on their medical status, as the many AIDS related cases of decades ago fully attest; and third, international law, Constitutional law, specific statutes and the common law of torts all forbid conditioning access to employment upon coerced, invasive medical examinations and treatment, unless the employer can fully provide objective, scientifically validated evidence of the threat from the employee and how no practicable alternative could possible suffice to mitigate such supposed public health threat and still perform the necessary essentials of employment.

At the outset, consider the “problem” being “solved” by vaccination mandates. The previously infected are better protected than the vaccinated, so why aren’t they exempted? Equally, the symptomatic can be self-isolated. Hence, requiring vaccinations only addresses one risk: dangerous or deadly transmission, by the asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic employee, in the employment setting. Yet even government official Mr. Fauci admits, as scientific studies affirm, asymptomatic transmission is exceedingly and “very rare.” Indeed, initial data suggests the vaccinated are just as, or even much more, likely to transmit the vaccine as the asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic. Hence, the vaccine solves nothing.

This evidentiary limitation on any employer’s decision making, aside from the legal and insurance risks of forcing vaccinations as a term of employment without any accommodation or even exception for the previously infected (and thus better protected), is the reason most employers wisely refuse to mandate the vaccine. This doesn’t even address the arbitrary self-limitation of the pool of talent for the employer: why reduce your own talent pool, when many who refuse invasive inquiries or risky treatment may be amongst your most effective, efficient and profitable employees? First, federal law prohibits any mandate of the Covid-19 vaccines as unlicensed, emergency-use-authorization-only vaccines. Subsection bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(III) of section 360 of Title 21 of the United States Code, otherwise known as the Emergency Use Authorization section of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, demands that everyone give employees the “option to accept or refuse administration” of the Covid-19 vaccine. (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/21/360bbb-3 )

This right to refuse emergency, experimental vaccines, such as the Covid-19 vaccine, implements the internationally agreed legal requirement of Informed Consent established in the Nuremberg Code of 1947. (http://www.cirp.org/library/ethics/nuremberg/ ).

As the Nuremberg Code established, every person must “be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision” for any medical experimental drug, as the Covid-19 vaccine currently is. The Nuremberg Code prohibited even the military from requiring such experimental vaccines. (Doe #1 v. Rumsfeld, 297 F.Supp.2d 119 (D.D.C. 2003).

Second, demanding employees divulge their personal medical information invades their protected right to privacy, and discriminates against them based on their perceived medical status, in contravention of the Americans with Disabilities Act. (42 USC §12112(a).) Indeed, the ADA prohibits employers from invasive inquiries about their medical status, and that includes questions about diseases and treatments for those diseases, such as vaccines. As the EEOC makes clear, an employer can only ask medical information if the employer can prove the medical information is both job-related and necessary for the business. (https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/questions-and-answers-enforcement-guidance-disability-related-inquiries-and-medical).

An employer that treats an individual employee differently based on that employer’s belief the employee’s medical condition impairs the employee is discriminating against that employee based on perceived medical status disability, in contravention of the ADA. The employer must have proof that the employer cannot keep the employee, even with reasonable accommodations, before any adverse action can be taken against the employee. If the employer asserts the employee’s medical status (such as being unvaccinated against a particular disease) precludes employment, then the employer must prove that the employee poses a “safety hazard” that cannot be reduced with a reasonable accommodation.

The employer must prove, with objective, scientifically validated evidence, that the employee poses a materially enhanced risk of serious harm that no reasonable accommodation could mitigate. This requires the employee’s medical status cause a substantial risk of serious harm, a risk that cannot be reduced by any another means. This is a high, and difficult burden, for employers to meet. Just look at the all prior cases concerning HIV and AIDS, when employers discriminated against employees based on their perceived dangerousness, and ended up paying millions in legal fees, damages and fines. Third, conditioning continued employment upon participating in a medical experiment and demanding disclosure of private, personal medical information, may also create employer liability under other federal and state laws, including HIPAA, FMLA, and applicable state tort law principles, including torts prohibiting and proscribing invasions of privacy and battery. Indeed, any employer mandating a vaccine is liable to their employee for any adverse event suffered by that employee. The CDC records reports of the adverse events already reported to date concerning the current Covid-19 vaccine.(https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/vaers.html )

Finally, forced vaccines constitute a form of battery, and the Supreme Court long made clear “no right is more sacred than the right of every individual to the control of their own person, free from all restraint or interference of others.” (https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/141/250)

With Regards,
Employee of the Year


3 posted on 08/12/2021 2:33:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

🔝


4 posted on 08/12/2021 2:36:27 AM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: Varsity Flight

Bump for later reference.


5 posted on 08/12/2021 2:40:35 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Travis McGee

Thank you for the very comprehensive well referenced post.


6 posted on 08/12/2021 2:44:01 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: ransomnote; MtnClimber

Trader Joe’s Employees Say They Were Fired for Signing Affidavits Over Mask, Vaccine Policies

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trader-joes-employees-say-they-were-fired-for-signing-affidavits-over-mask-vaccine-policies_3926894.html

EXCERPT
“We’re going to create a wrongful termination lawsuit for everyone that they fire. They’ve already fired four. If they fire all six, then all six of those are going to be together suing Trader Joe’s for wrongful termination.”

The affidavits make a “demand for correction and investigation by the State of California,” Witzeman said, and they cite alleged violations of constitutional laws, including the Fourth Amendment’s right to privacy, and other civil and penal codes including the Americans with Disabilities Act and Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The documents state: “By denying employment to an employee who is not wearing a mask, has not received the Emergency Use Authorized COVID shot, or refused Emergency Use Authorized PCR testing for either medical or religious reasons, you are in violation of at least eight federal and seven state laws.”

It also states: “No claim of an ‘emergency’ or ‘executive orders’ or ‘health orders’ or ‘city ordinances’ excuses you from violating the laws set forth in this notice.”

The affidavits were sent to U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland, California Attorney General Rob Bonta, and Trader Joe’s registered agent, Paracorp Inc., by certified mail on Aug. 2. Copies were also sent to Trader Joe’s executives, including CEO Dan Bane, President of Stores Jon Basalone and Customer Relations/Communications Director Nicole High, Witzeman said.

“We’re going to use any and every legal action to enforce a judgment on Trader Joe’s for breaking these 15 laws,” he said.


7 posted on 08/12/2021 2:49:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tired&retired

See Trader Joe’s example above. Much more at link.


8 posted on 08/12/2021 2:50:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

The problem is the level of belligerence is sky high on the part of employers. They are claiming that no one will win a lawsuit.


9 posted on 08/12/2021 2:56:00 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Travis McGee

“you are in violation of at least eight federal and seven state laws.”

I’m compiling a comprehensive list for Federal, realizing that each state is different.


10 posted on 08/12/2021 2:59:09 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Travis McGee

Good post


11 posted on 08/12/2021 3:00:05 AM PDT by rb22982 ( )
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To: Travis McGee

Many thanks for laying that out.... I have a family member who is having this discussion with her boss right now and your suggested letter is quite timely.


12 posted on 08/12/2021 3:00:32 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: Travis McGee

I do realize that there must be exceptions.

In previous employment, two of my children were required to be tested for chicken pox antibodies or take the vaccine.

The jobs were for Merk Pharmaceuticals, making the shingles vaccine.


13 posted on 08/12/2021 3:03:34 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: tired&retired
This is NOT a vaccine like the ones we are used to.

It had to be redefined before it could be pushed.

Nobody would get in line to take an experimental synthetic mRNA spike protein injection.


14 posted on 08/12/2021 3:14:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: hecticskeptic; rb22982; tired&retired; Varsity Flight

I would suggest anyone involved in this matter with their employers might do well to eliminate any references to the Nuremberg Code entirely without doing some serious research on it yourself. My understanding is that the Code has never been formally adopted into law or accepted as an ethical standard by any medical association. If this is true, then you make yourself look like a damned fool who got conned by internet trolls — which might make you a candidate for termination in any case.


15 posted on 08/12/2021 3:15:35 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: CodeToad
So it was with the Nazis (level of belligerence).

None of them considered they might wind up losing, and being held to account.


16 posted on 08/12/2021 3:17:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tired&retired

Big fortune 500 companies and big companies like to be the big boss and don’t like being told what they can and can not do legally. You might win in a court of law, but you might lose when they come up with some other reason to fire you, or get rid of you. It called stabbing your employees in the back.


17 posted on 08/12/2021 3:19:08 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: Alberta's Child

“My understanding is that the Code has never been formally adopted into law or accepted as an ethical standard by any medical association.”

Neither has the Hippocratic oath been formally adopted into law, but it is a bedrock of medical ethics. Both are referenced in medical malpractice trials.


18 posted on 08/12/2021 3:19:26 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tired&retired

Already have a lawyer on the hook. Got a contract written up and whomever gives me this shot, must sign it and are solely reasonable for any thing that happens to me, from the jab. How many nurses or Doctors are going to sign that and take financial responsibility for my family?


19 posted on 08/12/2021 3:19:53 AM PDT by spincaster (i)
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To: spincaster

🔝


20 posted on 08/12/2021 3:23:17 AM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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