The other thing these EV idgits don't understand is what cold does to batteries.
Of course, they've never done an Ontario snow mobile run in January... 
Posted on 05/23/2021 7:10:50 AM PDT by DoodleBob
So you’re thinking about trading in your gas-guzzling SUV for a futuristic, energy-efficient, quiet-as-a-nun-walking-through-the-Vatican fully electric vehicle? Mazel Tov! But you’re wondering how long it takes to charge an EV? Well, fine sir or madam, you’ve come to the right place.
The electron pit-stop offers different charge rates based on capability, type of charger, weather, temperature, how many cars are connected to the station, time of day, and your car’s battery capacity. As such, EV chargers often require a quick tutorial by the manufacturer or dealer. But just like pumping gas, after a few fill-ups it becomes second nature.
To make understanding EV jargon easier, The Drive’s crack How-To department is here to answer just how long it takes to charge an electric vehicle, along with a handful of other frequently asked questions about EVs.
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Nearly every electric vehicle comes with a factory-provided charger, but manufacturers and third-party businesses offer faster, more efficient chargers, too. These can be installed by an electrician or be gas station-like chargers installed throughout the country.
Here’s a quick rundown of the type of chargers available:
Now that you have an idea of the types of chargers available, here are The Drive’s estimates of how long it will take your electric car to charge, variables notwithstanding.
While conventional gasoline pumps have a predetermined flow rate, which can be somewhat affected by the number of cars fueling up, a charger’s is subject to a great many more variables that affect how quickly its EV juice is dispensed.
Here are some variables that affect an electric car’s charge speed:
In the U.S., the national average cost per kWh is around $0.13 but can reach $0.32 per hour in Hawaii—aloha. On average, however, you’ll spend less charging your EV than you would fueling a gasoline-powered vehicle.
There are also costs associated with your selected charger. Standard Level 1 chargers are normally included in the price of a vehicle, but if you want a faster Level 2 charger, that’ll require more investment as they’re more than just a plug-and-play setup.
Tesla offers its Gen 3 wall charger for $500, and third-party chargers can range from $400 to $900, plus $1,500 to $2,000 for installation.
How far you can travel in an electric vehicle has become a sticking point, with many potential buyers citing “range anxiety” as the biggest hurdle to adoption.
Just like a gasoline-powered car, the estimated electric range varies from car to car. Consumers can get anywhere from 84 miles in a Fiat 500e to well into the 300-mile range in an EV like a Tesla Model 3 Long Range or Porsche Taycan.
Considering the average American’s commute is 16 miles, any of the current EVs offer more than enough range. Charging stations are also becoming more common along highways making long-distance road trips achievable.
Electric vehicles are still in their infancy and as such can still suffer from build quality issues that commonly affect the first-generation system. That will change.
As subsequent evolutions of the electric vehicle roll off the assembly line, EVs have the real potential to be more reliable than any gasoline-powered car. An electric car requires only a few moving parts, as well as few parts that require fluids that could be corrupted by the elements, fuel, particulates, or grease. Thus, electric cars won’t need as much maintenance and could triple a car’s longevity.
You've got questions, The Drive has answers!
A. As shown about, they'll supply about 30 miles of range in one hour. Though, at-home chargers are getting faster as the tech proliferates.
A. That would be either the Porsche Taycan or Audi E-tron GT, both of which ride on the same electrical architecture and can make use of the 800v ultra-fast charging.
A. You can and can't. Most manufacturers have built-in safe guards so that you don't overcharge your vehicle. Tesla actually released a patch that modifies its car's thermal loads and charge capabilities after a handful of cars spontaneously combusted.
A. According to GMC, it'll take about 10 minutes to restore 100 miles of range when the truck goes on sale in 2022.
“In 2019 there were 241 coal powered units across the United States which generated 23% of the United States electricity in 2019, an amount of electricity similar to that from renewable energy or nuclear power but about half of the amount generated by natural gas plants. Installed capacity was about 236 GW.
“Coal plants have been closing at a fast rate since 2010 (290 plants have closed from 2010 to May 2019; this was 40% of the US’s coal generating capacity) due to competition from other generating sources, primarily cheaper and cleaner natural gas, (a result of the fracking boom) which has replaced so many coal plants that natural gas now accounts for 40% of the US’s total electricity generation
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“Some coal plants are considering only operating during periods of higher electricity demand, from December to February (winter) and from June to August (summer).”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coal-fired_power_stations_in_the_United_States
The faster you charge your battery, the shorter its life will be. Factor that into your charging decisions.
ever been to Jersey? pumping yer own gas is against state law...
“Recharging speed really isn’t going to be important generally.”
Impatient people waiting for a charge. Got it.
The infrastructure is not there and will not be there for a long time. The push for electric cars is not about the environment but control.
Better to buy a small trailer, equipped with a generator, and the charger, and hitch it to your car.
Very very few. Industrial parks run 480/3phase power
Residential areas have 240/120 single phase 60 hz power.
The grid in residential areas do t have 3 phase power. The cost to add that would be unaffordable.
Transformers would have to be changed out.
Not an option for residential location.
So for me, I say bring em on I need a new snowmobile.
An electric one?
Lol.
2 stroke
The smell of Polaris oil is magical
Electric cars have no application for me.
but all these discussion turn into and either or. Electric cars are appropriate for some, not everyone.
Repeat, electric cars are appropriate for some, not everyone.
The problem is government. one size fits all.
We all hated hybrids, but there are some out there, and many here even support them now.
If we have any faith in the market place, it will work it’s way out even in spite of the government.
” Does anyone think we will happily transition from a 5-minute gas pump trip to a 30-60 min charging station visit”
I agree, I’m a big fan of EVs and think they will soon be 20-25% of all cars sold, but the charging time is the barrier to them replacing gas vehicles.
I like the way you think.
Times every vehicle in the town or city...
This is your Tess-laaa speaking:
My batteries are at less than half capacity.
Your best price recharging rates are at the Denny’s 65 miles down the road at exit 173.
You can recharge at the McDonald’s 58 miles down the road at exit 180 for one cent per kilowatt hour more.
The Burger King 96 miles down the road at exit 142 currently wants three cents per kilowatt more, but expect a price rise of one cent per kilowatt hour based on the electricity futures market.
I know of a guy who installed 480/3 phase power into his house to power a huge industrial lathe that he had in his garage. They had to install a special line to his house. I have no idea what that cost him, but I’m sure it wasn’t cheap.
Our electrical grid cannot handle charging everyone’s car. Its not happening. There will always be electrical cars but they will not be the main form of transport. Likely at some point hydrogen will be the new fuel.
The other thing these EV idgits don't understand is what cold does to batteries.
Of course, they've never done an Ontario snow mobile run in January...
“Times every vehicle in the town or city...”
Not every vehicle will need recharging.
Not every vehicle will need a 72-mile top-up.
Smart chargers could examine the electricity futures market and reserve a charging time.
You are quite right about the need for electricity demand management.
Joe Biden’s let’s get it done now approach may result in the installation of stuff that does not play well together.
I feel that the extreme push for electric cars is about reducing our mobility.
They want to control EVERYTHING.
A 200 amp service at 240v is fine.
Math says that’s 48 kw. Car won’t hold more than 96 kw at the current. 3 hour full charge uses about 70% of that supply.
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