Posted on 05/23/2021 7:10:50 AM PDT by DoodleBob
And what happens when you run out of battery 100 miles from home on some two lane road, maybe at night. Triple A, or anybody else, ain’t gonna help you. Good luck.
Last large oil company a fortune 500 one at that I worked for had ten Tesla supercharger in the front parking row right by the elevators out of the parking deck. Only Tesla could park there they towed anyone else who parked in those spots. At every corner of the garage on every deck was 120v AC plugs and every 100 feet along the walls as per code. Those were available for slow charge EVs but they were also used by the maintenance people to run the electric pressure washers and scrubbers for clean up. They were pretty good about plugging back in EVs if they unplugged them to use the circuit. Lots of EVs Tesla especially at the oil company but a good number of leafs and BMWs as well. Once people figure out they only drive 30 ish miles both ways and can charge at work or home and never need a gas pump the switch is easy. Most cars are grocery getters and soccor shuttles going as per the gov data 40 miles or less per day. The upper middle class have multiple cars we have 4 two trucks two commuter cars. Replacing the commuter cars with Tesla or VW wouldn’t affect the single summer trip to the beach in the 4x4 and hunting in the fall at the land.
What a lot of people don’t understand is the charger is in the car not the Level 1-3 units either in the home or available to the public. Those units are EVSE and just supply juice to the car.
The car determines the rate of charge and most, except Tesla, are limited to around 40-50 amps for a Level 2 or 150 amps for a Level-3.
EV’s are good for city areas where the commute is short and the driving distance is less than 20-miles. For driving long distances, the ICE is more efficient.
The plug-in hybrids were an attempt to bridge that gap, but the range on electric is very limited.
BMW offers the I3 REX which has a 650cc scooter engine that drives a generator that theoretically can drive as long as you can fill the gas tank (ave gas range 70 miles). But thanks to California regulations, the tank is limited to 1.7 liters, even though the tank holds 2.3 liters.
For the average American, until we return to living in densely-packed urban centers with short commutes, EV’s will never replace the ICE as a viable alternative.
Which is why when I go to Florida or the Outer Banks on vacation, I always stop at a gas station around the Tappan Zee to fill up - so I can get through New Jersey without having to stop for gas.
As a former resident of NJ perhaps I should have included that.
I’ve been as far as the Soo locks. And it was 15 below. The thing ran like a rocket at that temp. I frozen my hands off. The wind chill factor of 95mph at 15 below zero must be off the charts.
Good times.
Are you crazy, a whole house electric heater in Texas is on a 50 amp 240v breaker and the whole house AC unit is on a 30 amp with the blower on a 15 amp 120v. 60% of Texans have electric heat as was demonstrated in February when they crashed the grid in record cold temps. 50 amps is 12 kWh, 30 is 7.2, resistance heaters are 10kw and they run on a 30% over a 24 hour duty cycle typically.
I have dual HVAC both on 30 amps when they are roaring it’s 60amps draw with both blowers running on high. My home circuit is a 300 amp grid tie the guest house is 200 for a 500 amp total to the pole.
It will limit your mobility more than discussed.
Many drive over an hour to their job. That means an hour home in the evening...plus a stop at the grocery, the drug store, the dry cleaner, Lowe’s or Home depot. Maybe the gun store...
The idea that the average person drives 16 miles to work is BS.
If you really want to know why we are getting electric cars pushed down our throat, familiarize your self with AGENDA 21. That will put you in a row house withing walking distance of your job...a return to the mill village of the early days of the industrial revolution.
I am old enough to remember the last years of that life. Most people today have no idea how lucky they are and how foolish they are to let evil politicians working with equally evil oligarchs take it away from them.
Once the range gets to about 600 miles (about the most anybody should drive a car in a day), electric cars will become feasible as people will be able to charge them while they sleep.
Apparently you have a very special model S. The EPA says the model S gets slightly more than 3 miles per kWh. And that figure is known to be highly exaggerated.
My 15kw system has never made less than 100kWh in a day with sunlight that was January with still ten plus hours of daylight.
The typical 15kw solar panel system can be expected to produce around 60kWh in a day in a location with optimal conditions.
Math is racist apparently.
What race are you again? You may be are a math drop out or you may be prone to exaggeration, or you may be both. I am told these are common issues among those living in Dallas.
“in the time frame it takes to eat a Big Mac or have a Cinnabon and coffee.”
Don’t expect a full charge in your time frame:
“Manufacturer-Built Ultra-Fast Charger
Electrify America (Volkswagen Group)
25 to 40 minute”
So, you skipped the physical sciences in high school and college, never went into the trades, and are ignoring the Watermelon push to get rid of nuclear, coal and natural gas in favor of unicorn farts and Hopium power plants.
Got it.
....average annual cost is 13 cents a kwh....
Where I live the charge is 9 cents at night and 18 cents daytime.
Here’s the kicker, the “delivery charge” always exceeds the per kwh expense.
Jiggly Rooms think Al Bundy
I asked you to address the infrastructure to do the 167 cars that are there AT THE SAME TIME.
I chose Charlton because it is in the middle of nowhere and all the cars (and people eating there) are on long-haul drives.
So glad you called that bridge by it’s proper name.
I'm thinking a bar with a sawdust covered floor, a mechanical horse in the corner and a bunch of country songs on the jukebox.
Just wait for that EMI pulse followed by a solar flare.
You sound bitter!
Apparently electric wiring is also not one of you strong points either. Circuit breakers are designed to protect the wiring. They do not indicate what the typical load is. You also did not read my post very well. You are talking about whole house heatpumps with resistive heating units. So do you think that they use more electricity while heating or while cooling?
Here is a link to a chart with the amount of electricity that a typical window air conditioner uses.
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