The other thing these EV idgits don't understand is what cold does to batteries.
Of course, they've never done an Ontario snow mobile run in January... 
Posted on 05/23/2021 7:10:50 AM PDT by DoodleBob
“In 2019 there were 241 coal powered units across the United States which generated 23% of the United States electricity in 2019, an amount of electricity similar to that from renewable energy or nuclear power but about half of the amount generated by natural gas plants. Installed capacity was about 236 GW.
“Coal plants have been closing at a fast rate since 2010 (290 plants have closed from 2010 to May 2019; this was 40% of the US’s coal generating capacity) due to competition from other generating sources, primarily cheaper and cleaner natural gas, (a result of the fracking boom) which has replaced so many coal plants that natural gas now accounts for 40% of the US’s total electricity generation
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“Some coal plants are considering only operating during periods of higher electricity demand, from December to February (winter) and from June to August (summer).”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coal-fired_power_stations_in_the_United_States
The faster you charge your battery, the shorter its life will be. Factor that into your charging decisions.
ever been to Jersey? pumping yer own gas is against state law...
“Recharging speed really isn’t going to be important generally.”
Impatient people waiting for a charge. Got it.
The infrastructure is not there and will not be there for a long time. The push for electric cars is not about the environment but control.
Better to buy a small trailer, equipped with a generator, and the charger, and hitch it to your car.
Very very few. Industrial parks run 480/3phase power
Residential areas have 240/120 single phase 60 hz power.
The grid in residential areas do t have 3 phase power. The cost to add that would be unaffordable.
Transformers would have to be changed out.
Not an option for residential location.
So for me, I say bring em on I need a new snowmobile.
An electric one?
Lol.
2 stroke
The smell of Polaris oil is magical
Electric cars have no application for me.
but all these discussion turn into and either or. Electric cars are appropriate for some, not everyone.
Repeat, electric cars are appropriate for some, not everyone.
The problem is government. one size fits all.
We all hated hybrids, but there are some out there, and many here even support them now.
If we have any faith in the market place, it will work it’s way out even in spite of the government.
” Does anyone think we will happily transition from a 5-minute gas pump trip to a 30-60 min charging station visit”
I agree, I’m a big fan of EVs and think they will soon be 20-25% of all cars sold, but the charging time is the barrier to them replacing gas vehicles.
I like the way you think.
Times every vehicle in the town or city...
This is your Tess-laaa speaking:
My batteries are at less than half capacity.
Your best price recharging rates are at the Denny’s 65 miles down the road at exit 173.
You can recharge at the McDonald’s 58 miles down the road at exit 180 for one cent per kilowatt hour more.
The Burger King 96 miles down the road at exit 142 currently wants three cents per kilowatt more, but expect a price rise of one cent per kilowatt hour based on the electricity futures market.
I know of a guy who installed 480/3 phase power into his house to power a huge industrial lathe that he had in his garage. They had to install a special line to his house. I have no idea what that cost him, but I’m sure it wasn’t cheap.
Our electrical grid cannot handle charging everyone’s car. Its not happening. There will always be electrical cars but they will not be the main form of transport. Likely at some point hydrogen will be the new fuel.
The other thing these EV idgits don't understand is what cold does to batteries.
Of course, they've never done an Ontario snow mobile run in January...
“Times every vehicle in the town or city...”
Not every vehicle will need recharging.
Not every vehicle will need a 72-mile top-up.
Smart chargers could examine the electricity futures market and reserve a charging time.
You are quite right about the need for electricity demand management.
Joe Biden’s let’s get it done now approach may result in the installation of stuff that does not play well together.
I feel that the extreme push for electric cars is about reducing our mobility.
They want to control EVERYTHING.
A 200 amp service at 240v is fine.
Math says that’s 48 kw. Car won’t hold more than 96 kw at the current. 3 hour full charge uses about 70% of that supply.
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