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1099 MISC not good enough any more
Vanity ^ | 1/25/2021 | Sequoyah

Posted on 01/25/2021 8:09:42 AM PST by Sequoyah101

The fools at the IRS have done it again. Make change where there is no need for change and adding to taxpayer burden.

The IRS is using a new 1099 this year for Miscellaneous Income. We now have to use Form 1099-NEC for Non-employee Compensation.

Copy A of the Form 1099-NEC from the IRS website is not scannable therefore, it cannot be filed as the IRS copy. You can order the forms by visiting www.IRS.gov.orderforms or they can be purchased in stores.

You can look at the form and download it but it is plastered with all manner of warnings not to actually use it under penalty of law and all sorts of other giverment threats.

This stupidity was done under Trump. The poor man can't have watched everything the bureaucratic fools do. He was surrounded by enemies to liberty.


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After decades of reporting Non-employee income on form 1099-MISC we can't do that anymore. Likewise, after years and years of downloading the form and printing it we can't do that anymore either. And more likewise, after decades of getting the forms from the post office that is not available anymore either apparently. I have not checked this since I don't go to town much.

Why, after all these years is a new form necessary? Don't we have enough forms already?

To whom do we appeal with any hope of attention, action or resolution or even explanation.

I'm mad to begin with, angrier about taxes in general and even angrier about this brand of insane foolishness.

1 posted on 01/25/2021 8:09:42 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: Sequoyah101

The IRS is America’s Gestapo.


2 posted on 01/25/2021 8:12:38 AM PST by SkyDancer (Remember Ashli Babbitt!)
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To: Sequoyah101

I kept getting unwanted crap from them so I unsubscribed...


3 posted on 01/25/2021 8:16:53 AM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: SkyDancer

I don’t know how I could hate the giverment any more than I do without destroying myself.


4 posted on 01/25/2021 8:21:04 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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To: Sequoyah101

I’m dealing with the same. And some of my payments are still covered by 1099-MISC, so I need both forms.


5 posted on 01/25/2021 8:22:54 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: Sequoyah101

I’m mad to begin with, angrier about taxes in general and even angrier about this brand of insane foolishness.


and that is how the Revolutionary War began.................


6 posted on 01/25/2021 8:23:55 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: SkyDancer

My dad lived in both the USSR and Nazi Germany and HE was so terrified of the IRS he wouldn’t take deductions he was entitled to.


7 posted on 01/25/2021 8:24:08 AM PST by Kozak (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Please note that Copy B and other copies of this form, which appear in black, may be downloaded and printed and used to satisfy the requirement to provide the information to the recipient.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1099b.pdf


8 posted on 01/25/2021 8:24:49 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: Sequoyah101
Why, after all these years is a new form necessary?

First impression is that they are trying to make it easier for people to "overlook incidental income or just not bother with it." Select classes of citizens can thereby be identified as criminal. It is just more of using the IRS to harass conservative organizations.

9 posted on 01/25/2021 8:25:48 AM PST by frog in a pot (The voters do the heavy lifting...or not.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Looks the same as 1099 Misc I filled out for years and years except for the name.


10 posted on 01/25/2021 8:26:11 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Kozak

Sounds familiar. And appropriate.

The fools are supposedly under staffed as it is so they add another form?

They can’t process my refund from 2016 and keep telling me they need another 60 days. What would happen if we asked for another 60 days?

We complain every year and nothing ever gets any better. A letter to your representative, not even about the tax amount but about the inefficiency and intimidation, falls on deaf ears as does everything else.

Isn’t it past time to take matters into our own hands?

They, the giverment, have no fear of us. They know they are dealing with We the Sheeple.


11 posted on 01/25/2021 8:28:58 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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To: Sequoyah101

I remember sitting in tax school. Major changes in calculating depreciation but no new legislation. The old school teacher said this was the actions of an incompetent bureaucrat trying to look important.

I asked, in from the the whole group, WHAT IS HIS NAME. Didn’t get an answer


12 posted on 01/25/2021 8:29:49 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: smokingfrog

Please note that Copy A is not this way and has lots of notices of penalties for use that I have mentioned. Please also note that it crashes my pdf reader.


13 posted on 01/25/2021 8:33:51 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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To: smokingfrog

PS. IRS are still fools for various and sundry reasons. They are just more self-important pettifogging bureaucraps.


14 posted on 01/25/2021 8:34:49 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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To: smokingfrog

BKMRK.


15 posted on 01/25/2021 8:36:55 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: carriage_hill

Can you open or use it without it crashing your pdf viewer? I can’t using Acrobat.

What good is just B when you are required to file A? Why separate them into one that is useable and one that is not?


16 posted on 01/25/2021 8:41:01 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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To: smokingfrog

The FACT remains that this is a new form, not necessary and made inconvenient to obtain.

Even if it was easy to download and use why is it necessary? That trap are they trying to spring on us and why?


17 posted on 01/25/2021 8:46:06 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Physics is hard because the math to describe nature is hard.

Taxes are hard because the math to calculate taxes was designed by some (fill in the blank adjective) bureaucrat.


18 posted on 01/25/2021 8:46:24 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

If people had to do their own taxes rather than using tax agents or computer programs, we’d see a simplified tax system pretty quickly.


19 posted on 01/25/2021 8:48:05 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: Sequoyah101

The informational copies are not downloadable, but the others are.

Here is 1099MISC
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1099msc.pdf

Copy A of this form is provided for informational purposes only. Copy A appears in red,
similar to the official IRS form. The official printed version of Copy A of this IRS form is
scannable, but the online version of it, printed from this website, is not. Do not print and file
copy A downloaded from this website; a penalty may be imposed for filing with the IRS
information return forms that can’t be scanned. See part O in the current General
Instructions for Certain Information Returns, available at www.irs.gov/form1099, for more
information about penalties.
Please note that Copy B and other copies of this form, which appear in black, may be
downloaded and printed and used to satisfy the requirement to provide the information to
the recipient.

1099-NEC

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1099nec.pdf

“Copy A of this form is provided for informational purposes only. Copy A appears in red,
similar to the official IRS form. The official printed version of Copy A of this IRS form is
scannable, but the online version of it, printed from this website, is not. Do not print and file
copy A downloaded from this website; a penalty may be imposed for filing with the IRS
information return forms that can’t be scanned. See part O in the current General
Instructions for Certain Information Returns, available at www.irs.gov/form1099, for more
information about penalties.
Please note that Copy B and other copies of this form, which appear in black, may be
downloaded and printed and used to satisfy the requirement to provide the information to
the recipient.”

“COPY B MAY BE DOWNLOADED AND PRINTED.”

https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-1099-misc

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1099msc.pdf
2020 instructions for 1099 MISC and 1099 NEC

Good luck! (Note that the PATH act requires you issue these by Jan 31st now rather than sometime in February!!)


20 posted on 01/25/2021 8:50:48 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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