Rush has 3 strikes against him getting this virus
1. Age
2. Smoker
3. Compromised by lung cancer
While the impact of flu varies, it places a substantial burden on the health of people in the United States each year. CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.
He also said it was nothing more than the common cold. VERY uninformed on this subject.
You misunderstood the CD statistic regarding mortality rate from influenza. The 2 deaths in 100,000 population does not mean 2 deaths out of 100,000 people infected with influenza, it means out of 100,000 people in the entire US population, 2 people died from influenza.
Having said that, those statistics don’t look right, even compared with other CDC pages. Compare it to this:
“CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza (Table 1).”
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html
Not quite!
Not everyone gets the flu. Of those that did last year in the US, about one in a 1000 died from it.
ML/NJ
Nobody knows a thing based on Chinese “statistics.” They lie about everything. Maybe they’re minimizing it, maybe they’re exaggerating it, who knows?
From what we have seen among Europeans or non-Asians who have gotten it, it seems to be about average flu death rate (about 2%, mostly among elderly people or people who have a history of some sort of lung or heart problems. It appears to be quite contagious, but it’s hard to say if it’s more contagious than any flu...a lot of people here have gotten flu vaccines, although apparently one of the flus for which they were vaccinated turned out not to be the flu that actually occurred...so it’s even hard to know that statistic.
Also, it does appear to hit Asians harder. I read that they have receptors in their lungs that much of the non-Asian population does not have, and the virus appears to have tailored itself to that, which is logical in virus-terms. That said, viruses mutate like mad to adapt themselves to the host, so this may not be a guarantee.
Still, panic is neither necessary nor helpful, and I get very suspicious when I see the hysteria mongers out there. It’s reasonable to worry a bit - I’m older and have had lung problems, so I’d probably be a prime target - but there’s nothing we can do except take reasonable precautions and hope they come up with a vaccine sooner rather than later.
This virus attacks the lungs vigorously - I heard as far as China is concerned, 51% or 52% of the males smoke cigarettes and only 3% of females in China smoke cigarettes. That was a study done there as to why so many more males than females died.
STOP riding idiotic mistake down in flames. You morons are totally clueless here
You have to compare apples to app!es. Either compare case fatality rates OR compare deaths per population. Both are valuable information, but they measure different parameters.
No sorry.
YOU DO NOT KNOW BETTER.
Ok. This is whole problem with you hysteric drama queens. You manufacture an alternative reality in order to cling to your adolescence need for drama. You are total stooges for the latest social media lie being flung around.
STOP with this narcissistic arrogance where you drama queens just assume you know better then the data.
How can you compare Chinese death rates to America. I believe he was saying with proper HC the rates would be similar or lower than the common flu.
Worldwide
2708÷80407=0.03367866 or 3.367866%
Doing the same for the more modern, honest countries gives you.
I've had the flu many times but have never gone to the doctor. Hong Kong has had less than 100 cases. Too small of a sample for accuracy. Looking at the numbers, a lot have not recovered yet. We're not going to know the fatality rate until it's all said and done, plus, many people will get it, get over it and not be part of the statistics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mortality_from_H5N1
They break it down by country and it caries wildly. Canada had a 100% mortality rate. One person got it and dies. The average was 52.8% and we're no where near that. It mostly hit third world countries too.
The case-fatality rate is central to pandemic planning. While estimates of case-fatality (CF) rates for past influenza pandemics have ranged from about 0.1% (1957 and 1968 pandemics) to 20% (1918 pandemic); the official World Health Organization estimate for the current outbreak of H5N1 avian influenza to date is around 60%.
Too early to tell and comparisons don't work. Conditions in 1918 were quite different than today and so were 1957/1968 really. Also keep in mind, people go to the hospital when they feel like they're gonna die so the numbers are always going to be higher than what's known. On the flip side, people die and the official diagnosis is never known, especially with old people. With the flu, most people don't die from it. They die when the flu turns into pneumonia.
Currently unclear what the actual rates are.
1. Transmission rate is high. R0 value of 3-5 or more (basically how many people each infected will in turn infect).
2. Death rate is not trivial. At best it’s comparable to flu ... but it’s not flu, the attack vector is different & unclear, and deaths will be in addition to an already significant flu death rate. Another 80,000 dead is bad.
3. You should be prepared. Not hard to have 3 months’ supply of food etc on hand. If you’re not ready NOW, you’re not ready. Be ready for the worst case, because it’s not a matter of your opinion.
Rush mentioned the cruise ship that was quarantined with the virus. How many have died? Zero.
So the CDC says that for every 100,000 people that get the flu,
No, "population" is not the same as "people that get the flu". A little bit of work with Google will tell you that the death rate (per infected) from the flu is in the neighborhood of 0.13 %. That's not 0.002%, but it's a lot lower than coronavirus at >2%.
You are comparing a country with good public cleanliness measures and a culture of cleanliness (except for inner cities run by criminal DIMs/Leftists) with countries that have little or no public health standards and cultures that have a very low standard of personal cleanliness...if any. I call major BS. Where are your pearls? Clutch them.
-bkmrk-
>>>> and that’s assuming that we used Chinese numbers <<<<
Bad assumption.
Likely, as this virus is new and numbers vary greatly depending upon who is reporting them (pun not intended). I think anyone who makes a claim that there is nothing to worry about, does just as poor of a disservice as those who panic over it. Our knowledge of how bad this virus is going to be is pretty limited right now, thanks in large part to the Chinese government's secrecy about it.
It's wise to take prudent steps in preparing for the eventual spread of to your location, and for the political and economic side effects which may eventually be far worse.
Look at what has happened in those countries where it has established itself and plan accordingly. Lock-downs of the populace seem the order of the day - whether such is needed or not. This means one should have enough necessities on hand to survive without having to rely on Walmart for at least a month or two.
Two channels I follow on Youtube for the latest:
Dr. John Campbell
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF9IOB2TExg3QIBupFtBDxg
Peak Prosperity
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w
We're just as responsible for our in-actions as we are for our actions.