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The ancient history of Neandertals in Europe [120K ago]
EurekAlert! ^ | Wednesday, June 26, 2019 | Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology

Posted on 07/01/2019 9:36:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, have retrieved nuclear genome sequences from the femur of a male Neandertal discovered in 1937 in Hohlenstein-Stadel Cave, Germany, and from the maxillary bone of a Neandertal girl found in 1993 in Scladina Cave, Belgium. Both Neandertals lived around 120,000 years ago, and therefore predate most of the Neandertals whose genomes have been sequenced to date.

By examining the nuclear genomes of these two individuals, the researchers could show that these early Neandertals in Western Europe were more closely related to the last Neandertals who lived in the same region as much as 80,000 years later, than they were to contemporaneous Neandertals living in Siberia. "The result is truly extraordinary and a stark contrast to the turbulent history of replacements, large-scale admixtures and extinctions that is seen in modern human history", says Kay Prüfer who supervised the study.

Intriguingly, unlike the nuclear genome, the mitochondrial genome of the Neandertal from Hohlenstein-Stadel Cave in Germany is quite different from that of later Neandertals - a previous report showed that more than 70 mutations distinguish it from the mitochondrial genomes of other Neandertals. The researchers suggest that early European Neandertals may have inherited DNA from a yet undescribed population. "This unknown population could represent an isolated Neandertal population yet to be discovered, or may be from a potentially larger population in Africa related to modern humans", explains Stéphane Peyrégne who led the analysis.

(Excerpt) Read more at eurekalert.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: belgium; dna; emptydna; germany; godsgravesglyphs; goldentroll; helixmakemineadouble; hohlensteinstadel; mitochondrialdna; mtdna; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; scladinacave; siberia; trollpup
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This is the femur of a male Neandertal from Hohlenstein-Stadel Cave, Germany. Credit: © Oleg Kuchar, Museum Ulm

This is the femur of a male Neandertal from Hohlenstein-Stadel Cave, Germany. Credit: © Oleg Kuchar, Museum Ulm

1 posted on 07/01/2019 9:36:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

How does it compare with Human DNA?


2 posted on 07/01/2019 9:38:07 AM PDT by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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KEYWORDS: neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
"Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

3 posted on 07/01/2019 9:38:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...

4 posted on 07/01/2019 9:38:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Zzzzzzzzzzz😴
5 posted on 07/01/2019 9:39:08 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: SunkenCiv

Here the music of my people!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCV6paTXyCU


6 posted on 07/01/2019 9:39:12 AM PDT by Reily
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To: CptnObvious
It is human DNA. Neandertal DNA shows up in many if not most living humans -- and of course, the samples of DNA from morphologically Neandertal remains is pretty small.

7 posted on 07/01/2019 9:42:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: CptnObvious
Neanderthal DNA is human DNA. Most living human beings have some Neanderthal DNA (except people whose ancestry is entirely sub-Saharan African). If you take the 23andMe DNA test they will tell you how much Neanderthal DNA you have compared to their other participants.
8 posted on 07/01/2019 9:43:20 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Reily

:^) Here’s a retrospective anthem of us balding boomers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE2kQe0PghU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpA4pvmeMQU


9 posted on 07/01/2019 9:44:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: CptnObvious
"How does it compare with Human DNA?

We are Neanderthals.

10 posted on 07/01/2019 9:46:24 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Exhibit 1: The Democratic Presidential debates!


11 posted on 07/01/2019 9:49:08 AM PDT by cgbg (Democracy dies in darkness when Bezos bans books.)
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To: cgbg
Comparison is insulting to Neanderthals. 😱
12 posted on 07/01/2019 9:58:58 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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People today of Native American, European, Asian, and North African heritage have Neanderthal DNA in their genomes, with percentages estimated between 1-4 percent... [xref'd with] five Neanderthals who lived 39,000-47,000 years ago.

A New Batch of Neanderthal Genome Provides Insights Into Their Complex History [3/26/2018]

13 posted on 07/01/2019 11:05:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
the samples of DNA from morphologically Neandertal remains is pretty small.

Very few Neaderthals submitted samples to Ancestry or 23 and Me. They didn't trust the privacy promises.

14 posted on 07/01/2019 12:48:21 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: SunkenCiv

Always enjoy and find your posts interesting...

There’s a very good two-part PBS special on Amazon Prime titled Neanderthal...

Using computer graphics to investigate and recreate their physiques, gait and even speech sounds...Features Andy Serkis of Gollum/LOR fame...


15 posted on 07/01/2019 12:51:28 PM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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To: centurion316

LOL

That figures, they have those bigger brains.


16 posted on 07/01/2019 12:55:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: elteemike

even speech sounds.


Whenever I chat up Neanderthal chicks,
my Cro-Magnon gonads keep stalling.
It’s not a bad lick how her brow is too thick,
but that New Jersey accent’s appalling.


17 posted on 07/01/2019 12:55:39 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: elteemike

Thanks!

https://www.amazon.com/Neanderthal/dp/B07JMZYBHC


18 posted on 07/01/2019 12:57:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

If the bone came from a male neanderthal shouldn’t it
be called a Hemer???


19 posted on 07/01/2019 1:00:43 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68
Tough to say... women go through men-opause, and men get her-nias...

20 posted on 07/01/2019 1:36:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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