Posted on 06/29/2019 6:34:55 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
If you are born in Guam or Puerto Rico, you are automatically granted citizenship. If you are born in American Samoa, that isn't the case. Despite American Samoa's status as a U.S. territory, the people who are born there aren't technically U.S. citizens. They're called U.S. nationals, a status that means they pay American taxes but cannot vote, run for office, or serve on a jury. They also have special passports that declare them nationals, but not U.S. citizens.
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I agree with you. Regardless of the meaning of natural born citizen at the time of the ratification, or how it has been interpreted, the purpose of this qualification was always that the person elected President loves this country and her people. Obama does not. He associated himself with his “anti-colonialist” father, a person who was married in Kenya, who seduced a left-tard here, a girl who might not have been legal age. That so-called father never helped to raise Obama by supporting his mother or by being a real father to him. Such is the hurt to boys of being abandoned by their fathers. So Obama hates America, when he should hate his father.
A very informative post. Including the very interesting point concerning the residency requirement of the American citizen parent at the time Obama was born.
People do not generally process the fact of Obama’s mother’s age at the time of his birth, implying that she was statutorily raped by Obama’s father.
More than this, there is the fact that, by law, there was, at the time, a residency requirement for citizenship by birth to be passed by lineage from an American citizen parent. George Romney, while born in Mexico, had American citizen parents who met this residency requirement.
But Obama’s mother, while an American citizen, because of her young age, did not met the residency requirement. Therefore, Obama was not a citizen at birth by lineage. This is why, for him, being born in the United States was crucial.
“...American Samoa is the only territory still classified as unincorporated, people who are born there are only considered U.S. citizens if they have a parent who is a U.S. citizen.”
Her mother was born in Indianna so she would be eligible to be President.
that alone doesn’t make her natural born. Her father would also have to be a citizen at the time of her birth which believe he was. There is more info back upthread
Best wishes.
There was no need for the resolution because the law already provided that persons born in the US Canal Zone of US citizens are US Citizens. The resolution had no legal impact anyway because statutes control citizenship, not senate resolutions.
The entire purpose of the resolution was to put to rest before the birther kooks who they anticipated would try to claim that mccain wasnt a natural born citizen. And it mostly worked.
It was a legally unnecessary move but it served its intended purpose.
Your position has never been adopted by the courts.
In this I don’t care what Trump says. My point was that Cruz said he wasn’t eligible. He and his constitutional law professor both agreed on this. Cruz is trotted out as a constitutional expert. Yet, he then went on to ignore this conclusion and run anyway. Good thing he lost as we saw his character more and more. Too many ineligible people like Cruz, Rubio, Harris, and Gabbard running. We’ve already seen the damage of Obama and at least he has one US citizen parent and was by some accounts born in the US. That can’t be said of these others.
You and probably hundreds of thousands of others. You don't need a conspiracy theory to understand why she didn't respond.
Recall the old saying that you should never stop your enemies when they are in the process of destroying themselves? The left did exactly that, and sat sat back and allowed our side to impale itself on this issue. We are heading for another loss if we try it again, especially if we don't have any facts to back it up.
We won on the issues in 2016, and we can win in 2020 on the issues. Now is not the time to fall back to the losing strategy from 2008 and 2012.
you seem so needy.
And you're a jerk who can't properly use capital letters.
It was about of a rhetorical question, but you gave a good response
Cruz himself said he was ineligible.
please provide a reference.
here we have lawyers on behalf of both the Birther position and on behalf of Cruz saying what we’d expect them to say. The Birther position is that “natural born citizen” means something different from “citizen at birth;” and, the Cruz position is that “natural born citizen” means “citizen at birth.”
Here we have the libtards at VOX arguing the Birther position on Cruz. In this article, VOX says Cruz’ “own school of Constitutional interpretation” take the Birther position. VOX quotes Libtard Harvard Professor Lawrence Tribe, who takes the Birther position. But, Vox and Tribe admit they’re just being assholes about the Birther position, because they think conservatives who interpret the Constitution according to original intent, are assholes. In any case, this appears to me to be the source of the argument Cruz “himself” said he wasn’t eligible. It’s a fake libtard source.
https://www.vox.com/explainers/2016/1/14/10772734/is-ted-cruz-citizen
I don’t sense that actual Birthers are playing games with the Constitution. They impress me as sincere. Who knows, one day, they might win one of their legal suits. Everybody has a bad century every now and then. As Scarlett O’Hara said, “tomorrow is another day.”
Thank you
Anyway, to start your reading if you need help, here: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2016/01/15/tribe-cruz-a-constitutional-opportunist-hypocrite/
John McCain was born in Panama, not in the Canal Zone.
John McCain was born in Panama, not in the Canal Zone
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John Sidney McCain III was born on August 29, 1936,[1] at a United States Navy hospital[2][3][4] at Coco Solo Naval Air Station[5][6] in the Panama Canal Zone.... wiki john mccain
LMFAO!
yep. Your source is libtard Lawrence Tribe of Harvard University, just like I said in Post 128. You actually don’t have source where Ted Cruz says what you say he said.
Now, as for Ted Cruz father assassinating Jack Kennedy, your source for this despicable lie, Roger Stone, “proved” LBJ killed Jack Kennedy, before he made up the wacko Ted Cruz’ father thing. Check it out:
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Killed-Kennedy-Against/dp/1629144894
Charles Francis Adams, Sr. (1807-1886), was a son of John Quincy Adams. He was the Free Soil Party candidate for Vice President in 1848 and was seriously considered by the Liberal Republicans as Presidential nominee in 1872 (losing out to Horace Greeley). His mother was born in England (daughter of an American). No one seems to have questioned his eligibility.
(The Free Soil candidate for President in 1848 was former President Martin van Buren. The people of Van Buren County, Missouri, changed the name of their county to Cass County to show their disapproval.)
Regarding George Romney:
“Records in a George Romney archive at the University of Michigan describe how questions about his eligibility to be president surfaced almost as soon as he began his short-lived campaign.
“In many ways, they appear to echo todays complaints that Trump and some other conservative ‘birthers’ have made about Obama while questioning whether Obama - whose father was from Kenya and mother was from Kansas - was born in Hawaii.
“In George Romneys case, most of the questions were raised initially by Democrats who cited the Constitutions requirement that only a natural born citizen can be president.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-campaign-romney-birth-certificate-idUSBRE84S1GF20120529
A couple funny things about this Reuters article: How is it that questioning George Romney’s qualifications in 1968 “echos” questioning Barack Obama’s qualifications 40 years later?
And, if the people who question Obama’s qualifications are “birthers,” why didn’t Reuters use that term to describe the people who questioned George Romney’s qualifications?
The answers are obvious. Reuters’s whole world was centered on Obama.
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