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A Hobbyist Challenges Papers on Growth of Dinosaurs
The New York Times ^ | 16 Dec 2013 | Kenneth Chang

Posted on 12/18/2013 9:50:32 AM PST by Theoria

A dinosaur hobbyist who made his name as a Microsoft multimillionaire published a scientific paper on Monday alleging “serious errors and irregularities” in dinosaur research involving some of the world’s top paleontologists.

The research, some of it dating to the 1990s, analyzed skeletons of different ages to estimate how quickly dinosaurs grew. For example, a 2001 paper, published in the journal Nature, estimates that the giant dinosaur Apatosaurus had a growth spurt of 12,000 pounds in a year.

The papers, particularly a 2004 paper in Nature on the growth of Tyrannosaurus Rex, were influential in offering an explanation for why some dinosaurs were much larger than their relatives and slashed decades off the estimated life span of the creatures.

The accuser is Nathan P. Myhrvold, a former chief technology officer at Microsoft who is well known in the worlds of avant-garde cuisine and patent law. The lead author of the papers in question is Gregory M. Erickson, a professor of anatomy and paleobiology at Florida State University.

Dr. Myhrvold ’s article, published by the journal PLoS One, says Dr. Erickson’s papers contain major mistakes, including graphs that do not match the data and curves that do not match the reported equations. And Dr. Myhrvold’s revised estimates put the maximum growth rate of Apatosaurus at about a tenth of what Dr. Erickson and his colleagues had reported.

Dr. Erickson declined to be interviewed, but issued an email statement noting that the papers had been the work of teams of scientists and had been peer-reviewed.

Dr. Myhrvold’s “reinterpretation of our data, although reaching moderately different conclusions on a species by species basis, strongly supports the cardinal conclusions that we reached regarding how dinosaurs grew,” the statement said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: dinosaurs; diy; godsgravesglyphs; paleontology; patenttroll
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1 posted on 12/18/2013 9:50:33 AM PST by Theoria
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 12/18/2013 9:53:13 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Theoria

“...papers contain major mistakes, including graphs that do not match the data and curves that do not match the reported equations.”

Well, sheet! We get that every DAY from The White House!


3 posted on 12/18/2013 9:56:14 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Theoria

I would assume they grew quickly early on and growth slowed as they approached adulthood.


4 posted on 12/18/2013 9:57:03 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Theoria
Why Most Published Research Findings Are False
5 posted on 12/18/2013 10:02:03 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Theoria

Wait, the science isn’t “settled”??

Science is never settled of course


6 posted on 12/18/2013 10:03:43 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Theoria

“the giant dinosaur Apatosaurus had a growth spurt of 12,000 pounds in a year.”
-I had a live-in mother-law who did just that.


7 posted on 12/18/2013 10:05:09 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Theoria
"....the papers had been the work of teams of scientists and had been peer-reviewed. "

As we have learned from the antics of the alleged Climate Scientists, peer review is a joke as a quality control mechanism on the Science.

As an exercise in crony Political Correctness it works quite well.

8 posted on 12/18/2013 10:05:12 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hey, was this paper vetted the same way as the papers with false research findings? If so, how do we know if the finding are true? ;-)


9 posted on 12/18/2013 10:06:34 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Theoria
"Dr. Erickson declined to be interviewed, but issued an email statement noting that the papers had been the work of teams of scientists and had been peer-reviewed"

Yeah, well the science of bleeding people to balance their bodily humors was peer reviewed and widely accepted by scientists for centuries - but that didn't make it right.

10 posted on 12/18/2013 10:07:29 AM PST by circlecity
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To: bunkerhill7
Snicker. On the flip side, perhaps that helped your appetite as well.
11 posted on 12/18/2013 10:09:01 AM PST by Theoria (Obama lied. My health care died.)
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The quotes from the co-authors (essentially, “hey, he did that part”) and the lack of questions during the peer review process don’t say good things about the system.

It seems the rush to get published and have your name as a co-author, and the lack of the peer review checks and real data review, has caused the system to fail.

...and hence we get “Climate Change” as settled science...


12 posted on 12/18/2013 10:09:38 AM PST by az_gila
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

*“...papers contain major mistakes, including graphs that do not match the data and curves that do not match the reported equations.”

Well, sheet! We get that every DAY from The White House!*

Also sounds like any and every document by those promoting the Climate Change scam!


13 posted on 12/18/2013 10:10:51 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: Paladin2
As we have learned from the antics of the alleged Climate Scientists, peer review is a joke as a quality control mechanism on the Science. As an exercise in crony Political Correctness it works quite well.

Peer-review is vulnerable to clique-capture, where a group of scientists tend to control the peer review process at the major journal(s) of their field, and ensure that their stuff gets exposure, and the careers of people who disagree with them get cut short. As you note, one major example of this is the "Climate Science" debacle.

Better would be TRUE "peer review", where a paper gets put on a website, and everybody in the academic community gets a shot at rendering their critiques.

14 posted on 12/18/2013 10:17:04 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Theoria

Maybe I missed it, but what qualifications does this person have to challenge a complex bio-paleontological theory like this?

“The accuser is Nathan P. Myhrvold, a former chief technology officer at Microsoft who is well known in the worlds of avant-garde cuisine and patent law.”


15 posted on 12/18/2013 10:19:02 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: circlecity

A little bleeding isn’t bad for some people. ;-)


16 posted on 12/18/2013 10:19:15 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: ETL

“. . . what qualifications does this person have . . .”

Does a brain count?


17 posted on 12/18/2013 10:22:39 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: ETL

Or was it just the statistics and mathematics he was challenging?


18 posted on 12/18/2013 10:22:58 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL
He was challenging the math. That part should have been simple and easy to reproduce...

'Dr. Erickson was one of the reviewers and argued strongly against publication. While praising Dr. Myhrvold’s accomplishments and saying the calculations appeared to be numerically correct, Dr. Erickson said the paper would not advance scientific understanding.'

LOL!

19 posted on 12/18/2013 10:26:38 AM PST by Theoria (Obama lied. My health care died.)
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To: Theoria

I see. I jumped in too fast (again). :/


20 posted on 12/18/2013 10:29:38 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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