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That bogus birth certificate
WND ^ | May 12, 2011 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 05/12/2011 5:15:26 AM PDT by RobinMasters

It was about three weeks ago that Jerome Corsi, author of "Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama Is Not Eligible to Be President," called me with some disturbing news.

In response to the success of his book (No. 1 at Amazon in pre-release stage) and the elevation of the eligibility issue because of Donald Trump's big megaphone, his sources in Hawaii were telling him that Barack Obama was about to release a fraudulent birth certificate.

Corsi urged that WND report the story. But because of the nature of the warnings, I didn't think it would be meaningful. What good would it do to report that unnamed sources investigating Obama's eligibility expected him to do something he had resisted doing for two-and-a-half years? Details were thin. Who would pay attention?

In retrospect, it probably was not the right call.

But I was not surprised when the White House delivered the document that Hawaii officials had previously stated unequivocally was not available to anyone, even Barack Obama himself.

Since the release of what I consider to be, at best, an inauthenticatable image of a document, Corsi has returned to Hawaii for more on-the-ground, first-hand investigation – and the results are startling.

Far from putting the critical issue of constitutional eligibility behind him, Obama has opened a Pandora's box of questions and controversies that no single document may ever be able to address definitively.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; corsi; delusional; eligibility; enoughalready; farah; getlosttrolls; hopespringseternal; justtenbucksmore; naturalborncitizen; stupidaborter; thistimeforsure; wnd
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To: Kleon
I was trying to give you the opportunity to explain yourself, because as it stands, it’s the dumbest thing I’ve read in months.

Well then you MUST be Karl Rove! For the birther brigades, if you don't accept their conspiracies, then by God you must be a RINO! And not just any RINO, but Karl Rove himself. Never mind that all the birther stuff that gets to court is thrown out, never mind that most prominent conservative politicians and commentators find the birther conspiracies loopy - for the die hard birthers if you speak out against their increasingly bizarre conspiracies you must be a Karl Rove RINO plant!!

101 posted on 05/12/2011 12:07:58 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Steel Wolf
Steel Wolf said: "The whole world is in on it, except for Orly Taitz, Joe Farah, Jerome Corsi, Donald Trump, and the tireless Birther contingent on FR. "

I recall a time years ago when I finally had heard the term "Watergate" too many times without understanding the reference.

I started hunting for articles to explain what was going on. I typically found such articles buried in the back pages of my local newspaper. Initially it was just vague suspicions due to the obviously political purpose of the attempted wiretapping by the burglars.

It was many months before there were sufficient details to tie the crime and the subsequent coverup to persons associated with Nixon. Nixon even won re-election without any broad-based understanding of his involvement in the conspiracy.

But eventually a great deal of the truth came out. Five dozen high-ranking individuals, most of them lawyers, were convicted of felonies and Nixon himself resigned in disgrace, forced to release tapes documenting his own involvement from the beginning of the obstruction of justice.

The latest document released by Obama suggests that government officials in Hawaii may be involved in an effort to provide forged documents for Obama's benefit. Their behavior has been inconsistent and illogical. If what I am suggesting has occurred, I believe that it will come out.

Could you please provide your explanation for the unusual characteristics of the recently released document? Or do you remain uninterested, just like those who had no interest in why several Cuban refugees would burglarize the offices of a highly placed Democrat?

102 posted on 05/12/2011 12:13:44 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: ebysan
RE :”Why did so many news articles call Obama Kenyan-Born??

If current Kenyan newpaper articles were documentation then the Hawaii Times Obama birth notice from 50 years ago would be too. So would be the national enquirer. Were planning on taking those papers to a congress as impeachment documentation, were you?

you will need better than that. Current Kenya Newspapers are probably not considered proof by most Americans.

103 posted on 05/12/2011 12:19:48 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: ebysan
RE :”Why did so many news articles call Obama Kenyan-Born??

If current Kenyan newpaper articles were documentation then the Hawaii Times Obama birth notice from 50 years ago would be too. So would be the national enquirer. Were planning on taking those papers to a congress as impeachment documentation, were you?

you will need better than that. Current Kenya Newspapers are probably not considered proof by most Americans.

104 posted on 05/12/2011 12:20:02 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Longbow1969

Where's the Birth Certificate?

Re: Obama's birth and qualifications for the presidency
Vanity | May 1, 2010 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/01/2010 1:22:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

One of the constitutional requirements for the office of the presidency is that he be a "natural born citizen." This was put into place by the founders to keep foreigners or persons who do not bear a non-questionable allegiance to the US Constitution out. Obviously, and admittedly Barack Hussein Obama was born to a foreign citizen and is not 100% American. He's half-American, half-African and all Marxist. He obviously bears no allegiance whatsoever to the US Constitution and is working overtime to destroy it. He's a usurper and should be removed from office. He is exactly the kind of fraud/usurper the founders feared.

"If you cannot live with the above, fine, but keep your mouth shut about it while on FR. Don't fight against us on ANY of our deeply held beliefs!!"

105 posted on 05/12/2011 12:29:57 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Longbow1969
loony conspiracy theories?

feel free to post your 0bot thoughts here.
106 posted on 05/12/2011 12:32:45 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Longbow1969
I would still like to see two things.

1. Other birth certificates from Hawaii with the "txe" typo on Dr. Alvin Onaka's signature stamp. Or, an explanation for why the typo was allowed to remain on a stamp used on government documents.

2. The Hawaii Department of Health reproducing the Obama birth document on their own. Now that Obama released this document to the public domain, Hawaii can't hide behind privacy anymore. They should be able to make this document available to anyone who pays the fee for it.

-PJ

107 posted on 05/12/2011 12:42:06 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: GilGil

Can you refer me to that American law that suggests such can happen to an American minor? Thank you.


108 posted on 05/12/2011 12:46:03 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Red Steel
And that is exactly why Lt. Col Lakin refused his orders, on the grounds that he could face criminal prosecution for accepting unlawful orders.

What information do you have that Biden signed the orders?

109 posted on 05/12/2011 2:16:06 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est)
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To: melancholy
A better way to phrase it might be:

“WND claims to have been told by Jerome Corsi that his sources in Hawaii were telling him that Barack Obama was about to release a fraudulent birth certificate.”

But, gosh darn the luck, WND doesn't appear to have made any note, mention or allusion regarding this until weeks after it actually happened.

Funny that...

110 posted on 05/12/2011 2:35:24 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Notary Sojac

I fear that we are stuck with hearing it as long as Birthers are around.


111 posted on 05/12/2011 2:36:52 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: sickoflibs
"Given that obama has thrown out that BC and the MSM/FNC/Republicans/trump seem to accept it, raising more endless ‘questions’ is going no-place. It’s time for solid answers from the birther side. Where’s the proof that Obama is not a citizen?"

First of all, he is mandated to be a "natural born Citizen" per our Constitution:

Office Citizenship Age Residency (or years citizen)
Commander in Chief natural born Citizen 35 14 years resident
Senator Citizen 30 9 years a Citizen
Represantative Citizen 25 7 years a Citizen

How can an admitted multi-national be considered a "natural born Citizen?" A citizen, sure...but Barry never was a "natural born Citizen."

Secondly, perhaps I've missed it...but I've not heard Trump "accept" the alleged (read: clearly bogus) LFBC "released" by Barry.

Lastly, back in 2008, 2009, 2010 and earlier this year...many like yourself said the issue was "going no-place" back when all that was released was the alleged SFBC.

This issue isn't over.

112 posted on 05/12/2011 3:19:28 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: JoeA
And that is exactly why Lt. Col Lakin refused his orders, on the grounds that he could face criminal prosecution for accepting unlawful orders.

What information do you have that Biden signed the orders?

You'll have to ask the FReeper David. Likely something heard coming down the grapevine in DC or in military circles. It's definitely something for Lakin to look into.

113 posted on 05/12/2011 3:19:50 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Longbow1969

How is it, that a multi-national can be a “natural born Citizen?”


114 posted on 05/12/2011 3:22:02 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Notary Sojac; 3D-JOY
"NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

Eighty percent of Americans actually don't give a damn about this nuance.

Fifteen percent (including me) would give a damn if the term had any established meaning in statute or case law (eighteenth century essays don't count, sorry!)

Then there is the other five percent.

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Office Citizenship Age Residency (or years citizen)
Commander in Chief natural born Citizen 35 14 years resident
Senator Citizen 30 9 years a Citizen
Represantative Citizen 25 7 years a Citizen

Either ALL of the Constitution matters, including AII,S1,C5, or it's all open to "interpretation" by whomever happens to be in power at the moment.

The framers never considered multi-nationals to be "natural born Citizens" and thus (post grandfather clause) eligible to the be Commander in Chief of the armed forces.

115 posted on 05/12/2011 3:29:30 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: sickoflibs
The “Proof” is that his Daddy was not an American citizen.

Why does everybody in media and any other place presume that the natural born clause is nothing?

It is everything!

They put it in there for a reason, and this Obama character is exactly the perfect example of their brilliance.

116 posted on 05/12/2011 3:46:23 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: 9YearLurker

I know this because I have a very good childhood friend who was born of a French father and an American mother and he therefore had his father’s citizenship. We are both in our 50’s. At 18 he had the choice of remaining French or becoming American. This is a choice offered to kids born of of parents who themselves are of different nationalities where one parent is American.

My friend was born in the US in Boston, but he had his dad’s citizenship prior to being 18 and he formally filed the necessary paperwork to also acquire his American citizenship at 18. That citizenship is of a naturalized type not natural born.

There is no secret that Obama’s school paperwork in Indonesia lists him as an Indonesian citizen which makes sense since his dad adopted him and that autonatically made Obama Indonesian. His last name was not Obama at the time. It was Soetoro. My guess is that he sudddenly changed his last name to Obama to thinly veil his citizenship problem which he probably did not bother to change when he was 18 and even if he had he would not qualify as natural born. That is what this whole birth certificate/citizenship is all about.


117 posted on 05/12/2011 3:47:11 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil

Yes, all that you describe makes sense, except if Obama was considered a US citizen at birth, then I think that’s a different case: becoming an Indonesian citizen via adoption I don’t think erases his American citizenship.

I’m not sure if that would still pertain, however, if at age 18 he traveled via Indonesia to claim an Indonesian passport before continuing on to Pakistan.


118 posted on 05/12/2011 4:00:38 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Triple

“It is interesting that when one “move along, nothing to see here” poster gets schooled - another pops up.”


Yep. You noticed the pattern too...


119 posted on 05/12/2011 4:00:43 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: GilGil
Yes, The State Department could "suspend" Obama's citizenship to comply with Indonesian laws, if he had one in the first place, or Stan Ann fooled them into thinking Obama really had a US citizenship. If so, Obama had the ability to come back and naturalize as a citizen when he became of age. Did he?

Which comes back to what passports was Obama using when he traveled around the world and to Kenya, Pakistan, et al as an adult? Did Obama attend Occidental college as foreign student? As I recall, Obama spent many months in Indonesia circa 1990 when he was suppose to write his first book. Was Obama living there in Indonesia as a citizen?

120 posted on 05/12/2011 4:07:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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