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Why Is Free Republic Allowing Liberal Trolls To Stay?
May 12 2009 | jveritas

Posted on 05/12/2009 12:07:37 PM PDT by jveritas

There are some really annoying liberal trolls on Free Republic who have survived for months and years without being banned. Why is Free Republic allowing them to stay? We have enough liberalism and left wing lunacy on 90% of the media and we do not need this crap on this forum.

It is not difficult to spot these trolls. A quick review of their posting history will prove without any shadow of doubt that they are liberal trolls. Some of them try to mask it but they cannot fool the vast majority of us.

There are plenty of left wing forums which will welcome them that if they are not already registered and active members there.

It is time to get rid of them.

Hit the abuse bottom on them and hit it often.


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; Free Republic Policy/Q&A
KEYWORDS: definitionoftroll; faq; howtotroll; trolling; trolling101; trolls; vanity
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To: jveritas

I think the point is that liberals and dissenters are more than welcome here if they engage in honest debate. However if they are just making trouble and putting on nasty deceptive stuff. Then they are a TROLL.

And trolls must be ZOTTED!!!


61 posted on 05/12/2009 12:26:01 PM PDT by GulfBreeze
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To: knarf

lol


62 posted on 05/12/2009 12:26:08 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Increasingly mulling Newt.)
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To: jveritas
I think you bring up a darn good point. FreeRepublic (aka Jim) needs to decide what kind of mission it wants to fulfill. If it wants to be merely a place for conservatives to come and engage in useless debate, then by all means, we should allow the disruptive trolls to stay and frustrate Freepers. However, if FreeRepublic wants to be a force for promoting conservative ideals through activism, organization, coordination, etc. then anyone who is the slightest hint of troll should be booted asap.

If I thought that reasoned debate could bring the Left to the Light, I would welcome them, but we all know that will never happen. The Left is hell bent on destroying this country and they don't care what the truth is. Debating with them is a waste of time. If we want this site to be effective, it should be limited to conservatives, and it should take on more of an organizational role. We get enough debate just among the various conservative factions to where allowing left-wingers to troll here is silly.

This is all just my humble opinion, of course. I don't run this site.
63 posted on 05/12/2009 12:27:04 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Admin Moderator

LOL!


64 posted on 05/12/2009 12:27:23 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: jveritas

What you don’t get is that FR is a DISCUSSION board. To have a discussion it helps to have differing viewpoints. Without somebody to argue with, the threads can turn into “yeah, I agree too!” ditto-fests.


65 posted on 05/12/2009 12:27:26 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: pissant; jveritas

“I thought all the Rudy fans were gone already”


“Hit the abuse bottom on them and hit it often.”
____________________

JV, who’s going to be left when you are granted all your purge demands? You did your best, with posts like this one, to get rid of most of the anti-illegal alien posters a few years ago, the Rudy worshipers are gone....not much left, unless you’re looking for an echo chamber.

“Abuse Bottom”.....Freudian slip?

JV, you’re too funny.


66 posted on 05/12/2009 12:27:40 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: jveritas

If FR management’s policies displease you, you can always find another place in cyberspace to post.


67 posted on 05/12/2009 12:28:03 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: stillonaroll

That is another one :)


68 posted on 05/12/2009 12:28:10 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: thefrankbaum
Gotta name names. I've been accused of being a liberal because I'm not sufficiently upset about Family Guy.

Same here, plus I've been said to exhibit trollish behavior, because I don't usually comment when posting an article.

69 posted on 05/12/2009 12:28:39 PM PDT by skully (Hey Benedict Arlen: you forgot to take McCain, Graham, Snowe, and Collins with you!!!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Save MurryMom!


70 posted on 05/12/2009 12:28:54 PM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar & Feathers, The New Look for Spring '09)
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To: jveritas

They are big donors.


71 posted on 05/12/2009 12:28:58 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: jveritas

We mod with a lighter hand than many charge us with. It takes a lot to push us over the top for many reasons. One, we may be gathering evidence to make absolutely sure. Two, sometimes when other FReepers call them out on their liberalness, it strengthens their arguments. Three, sometimes it is hard to tell when someone is being factious. Four, sometimes we like to see them squirm. And finally, sometimes we just happen to overlook them. We are only human (that we let you know...)


72 posted on 05/12/2009 12:29:22 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: jveritas

I disagree.

Banning is a DU tactic.

If we really are trying to win on the strength of our ideas, we should be able to beat them into submission with our reason and intellect.


73 posted on 05/12/2009 12:29:23 PM PDT by FatherFig1o155 (I love -- and miss -- the republic I grew up in: America.)
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To: jveritas

I agree with you. Sometimes they are very obvious, other times it’s hard to tell if they’re trolls or just your run of the mill nasty person. We have a few of those too. :)


74 posted on 05/12/2009 12:29:41 PM PDT by beandog
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To: jveritas
Does Free Republic have room for people that consider themselves extreme fiscal conservatives, but may not agree on every social issue to be outed as "trolls"?

I have never been called out, but I sometimes think that some of the homosexual threads go way over the line, and even though I believe personally that homosexuality is a sin, I do not believe in gay bashing. Many of us, on this board, consider ourselves to conservative, but we refuse to denounce our friends or family that may be gay.

I also know of a few atheists on this board, should they be cut off because they aren't Christians? What about someone who doesn't believe in the death penalty? Are they not conservative?

I, personally think that the broader the board, the more enlightened we all become. So by all means, continue to challenge those you don't agree with, who knows maybe you will change their minds.

75 posted on 05/12/2009 12:30:09 PM PDT by codercpc
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To: jveritas

Depends on what you mean by “liberal troll”. I’ve been called one a time or two myself ...

... for not believing this economy is as bad as the great depression;
... for not supporting secession or armed revolt;
... for supporting legal immigration;
... for not believing the country is doomed;
... for believing that non-whites can be convinced to vote for a conservative;
... for being optimistic when pessimism reigns.

The term “liberal troll” is thrown around pretty haphazardly around here — as everyone seems to believe that their opinions are the definition of “conservative”.

SnakeDoc


76 posted on 05/12/2009 12:30:09 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The night is darkest just before the dawn -- but I promise you, the dawn is coming." -- Harvey Dent)
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To: jveritas
No way. Of course this is a pro-Conserative, Republican site, but why push to turn us into DU? I used to troll around on DU just to push (gently) a few lib buttons. By my second post (yep, I only made it to post #2) they kicked my Reagan Conservative a$$ out of there. No loss, I assure you.

I say let 'em troll. We'll continue to show them we aren't afraid to discuss and debate. We are right and damn proud of it.
77 posted on 05/12/2009 12:30:39 PM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: Moorings
"hitting bottoms should not be encouraged on this forum."


Maybe not, but some people enjoy it.

;o)

78 posted on 05/12/2009 12:30:47 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. ~~ Will Rodgers)
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To: PapaBear3625
You really want to argue with a LET WING LIBERAL on the economy, national security, healthcare, unions, etc... May be you need to ask the owner of the forum to make it as such because as of now it is not open for such discussions and should not be.
79 posted on 05/12/2009 12:31:08 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas
Hit the abuse bottom on them and hit it often.

Nah.
Unfortunately that's how we lost many thoughtful serious posters. One of the trolls' tactics is exactly what you suggest.

A better solution: if it talks like a duck, writes like a duck and thinks like a duck, I simply ignore them. Works like a charm, after they spend days talking to themselves, or posting 2-reply articles.

Also, some of the mods also are not the sharpest tacks on the board...

80 posted on 05/12/2009 12:31:32 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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