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Police say elementary school kids smoked pot; Bernhards Bay parents, teen charged
The Post-Standard ^ | Wednesday April 01, 2009 | by Kathy Coffta Sims

Posted on 04/02/2009 5:14:02 AM PDT by metmom

A teen and the parents of two elementary school boys face child endangerment charges after officials at the youngsters' school reported the pair had smoked marijuana.

State trooper RaeAnn Hickok, the school resource officer for the Central Square school district, was called March 24 to investigate an incident of possible marijuana use by two pupils at Cleveland Elementary School.

Hickcok's investigation revealed the boys, ages 7 and 8, had smoked marijuana after finding it at their home.

On Tuesday, troopers charged James M. Tysco, 33, and Christine M. Miczek, 34, both of 387 Whipple Road, Bernhards Bay, with endangering the welfare of a child.

(Excerpt) Read more at syracuse.com ...


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1 posted on 04/02/2009 5:14:03 AM PDT by metmom
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; Anima Mundi; ...

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2 posted on 04/02/2009 5:15:12 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Hey, what’s the problem? Pot doesn’t hurt anybody! -Right marijuana advocates?


3 posted on 04/02/2009 5:17:36 AM PDT by J40000
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To: metmom

I’m puzzled at the “school resource officer’s” involvement in something that took place at home.


4 posted on 04/02/2009 5:20:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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To: Tax-chick
I’m puzzled at the “school resource officer’s” involvement in something that took place at home.

Don't be puzzled. Schools believe themselves to be the only real authority in the child's life and that homes are just what they have to put up with: the good home is the one that facilitates whatever the school wants to do; the bad home is the one that impedes that, for whatever reason, whether it's a crack house or a very religious home or one whose parents are extremely well-educated and ready to hold the school's feet to the fire.
5 posted on 04/02/2009 5:25:00 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Tax-chick

I heard about this on the radio this morning and they said that the kids came to school stoned. I just looked up the article and thought that it was mentioned in the article as well.

Anyway, this is so typical of that area. There are a LOT of homeschool families in Oswego county and that sort of thing is one of the reasons why. It played into our decision to homeschool.


6 posted on 04/02/2009 5:28:13 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
I heard about this on the radio this morning and they said that the kids came to school stoned.

The teacher said she thought something was amiss, "No one could be enjoying school that much that early in the day."

The school resource officer agreed, "No one could possibly have that much fun in school. I mean, I get $60,000 a year to be here, and I hate the place."
7 posted on 04/02/2009 5:31:58 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: metmom; Tax-chick

Excuse me for being dense, but the kids found the stash at home, they didn’t get it in school. If anything, at least in this case, them attending school was probably a good thing.


8 posted on 04/02/2009 5:32:26 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: aruanan; metmom

Well, it does explain the officer’s involvement if the children were obviously impaired while at school.


9 posted on 04/02/2009 5:35:04 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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To: Gabz

I was just confused about the jurisdiction, not saying it’s a good idea for children to be smoking marijuana!


10 posted on 04/02/2009 5:36:14 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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To: J40000
"...Hey, what’s the problem? Pot doesn’t hurt anybody! -Right marijuana advocates...?"

Robert Downey, Jr, was introduced to marijuana at age 8 by his father . How'd it hurt him?

/s

11 posted on 04/02/2009 5:37:12 AM PDT by Does so ( I called it right on Perot: The 0bama will quit before 6 months are up.)
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To: Gabz

I think it’s the principle of the thing; homeschool types see “school resource officers” with the power to come into your home as a step on a slippery slope. Yeah, this time is was stoned elementary students, but what happens when it’s because Johnny talked about Daddy’s gun collection and the school resource officer wants to make sure it’s secured properly?


12 posted on 04/02/2009 5:39:01 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Tax-chick

The kids went to school stoned:

http://www.syracuse.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/news-31/1238606675242480.xml&storylist=state


13 posted on 04/02/2009 5:39:45 AM PDT by goldi
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To: J40000
Hey, what’s the problem? Pot doesn’t hurt anybody! -Right marijuana advocates?

Foolish words from a foolish person.

I've never seen any marijuana advocate advocating that children smoke pot.

Prove me wrong or just simply wear your "I'm a Fool" sign proudly.

14 posted on 04/02/2009 5:51:26 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Obama - Taking jobs from Americans.)
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To: J40000
Hey, what’s the problem? Pot doesn’t hurt anybody! -Right marijuana advocates?

Oh please. I had a friend die from alcohol poisoning at 16 with the liquor in his parents' cabinet. This happens ALL the time. We had two alcohol deaths in my college dorm in one year.

It's impossible to hurt yourself or die from pot. There has never been a SINGLE case of pot injuring anybody. The worst that would happen from smoking once is the kids would eat all the cookies in the house and fall asleep.

The parents are irresponsible for being intoxicated around their children and giving them access to drugs. Punish idiot parents, not responsible smokers.

The kids will probably be able to buy it in school soon anyway. Teenage drug dealers don't check IDs and pot is easier to get for underage kids than alcohol or cigs. It was true when I was under 18. I taught at a University for a while and every college kid has told me it's the same now. Alcohol is sold in state-run stores and every ID is scanned. There is NO incentive to sell to kids since alcohol is low profit and the government regulates it. Drug dealers will sell to anyone and they will stay in business until there is legal competition to shut them down. Until then, they will stay in business, make 1000%+ profit and be happy to sell to your kids. Thanks prohibition

15 posted on 04/02/2009 6:01:18 AM PDT by varyouga (2 natural disasters, zerO action. Obama doesn't care about white people!)
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To: metmom

(a) The kids found the dope at home and smoked it at home. The school only got involved because they smoked it before school rather than after, or on a non-school day. If they had been homeschoolers, nobody would have found out they smoked the weed until after mom and dad discovered their stash was missing. So homeschooling is great, but this article isn’t evidence for it.

(b) Children shouldn’t smoke pot. That said, this episode won’t do these kids any permanent damage. That said, if your kids are not old enough or responsible enough to obey when you tell them to stay out of your stash - or your liquor cabinet or gun rack - then keep it locked up.

(c) Yes, pot should be legal. You don’t ban things just because they’re not for children.


16 posted on 04/02/2009 6:21:54 AM PDT by tvdog12345
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To: Gabz; JenB
If anything, at least in this case, them attending school was probably a good thing.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So?...It is a “good thing” for other people's children to be **FORCED** (under penalty of police and court action) to be associated in any way with these kids and their parents?

I don't think so!

Every homeschooler reading this article is asking themselves, “Is this the wonderful “socialization” my kids are missing?”

Also....I see “Resource Officers” as teaching children how to be good prisoners of the state. Jen B is right. The prison ( oops! “school”) snitches will soon be reporting to the state officer on the guns or bibles in the home.

17 posted on 04/02/2009 6:26:57 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: varyouga; J40000
It's impossible to hurt yourself or die from pot.

But it's not impossible for someone who is stoned to injure of kill someone else while they're under the influence.

While it may not have the immediate drastic effects on one's system that alcohol can, the effects that it can have on mental facilities is about the same.

I've seen well enough how people can act when they're stoned and I wouldn't want them driving in that condition or operating dangerous equipment or doing anything else that requires concentration, judgment, and quick decision making around me.

No man is an island. There's no such thing as a victimless crime or activity. Libertarians are pretty big on personal freedom but pretty weak on the personal responsibility part, especially in regards with how their actions affect the other people they share this society with.

18 posted on 04/02/2009 7:48:58 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: varyouga; Eagle Eye

Okay then, if pot does NO harm, then why NOT let kids smoke it?


19 posted on 04/02/2009 1:07:25 PM PDT by J40000
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To: metmom

Metmom, you said it wonderfully.

“It’s impossible to hurt yourself or die from pot.

But it’s not impossible for someone who is stoned to injure of kill someone else while they’re under the influence.

While it may not have the immediate drastic effects on one’s system that alcohol can, the effects that it can have on mental facilities is about the same.

I’ve seen well enough how people can act when they’re stoned and I wouldn’t want them driving in that condition or operating dangerous equipment or doing anything else that requires concentration, judgment, and quick decision making around me.

No man is an island. There’s no such thing as a victimless crime or activity. Libertarians are pretty big on personal freedom but pretty weak on the personal responsibility part, especially in regards with how their actions affect the other people they share this society with. “

It just KILLS me to see how vehemently pot smokers defend the stuff. “It’s harmless... Oh! -But kids shouldn’t smoke it!”
I’ve never known a pot smoker yet who ISN’T the person they once were -mentally. It’s a shame.


20 posted on 04/02/2009 1:11:55 PM PDT by J40000
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