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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: All; TenthAmendmentChampion

http://pdfse.com/foods-that-fights-cancer

PDF and Ebooks for “foods that fights cancer”

* FOODS THAT FIGHT CANCER
foods that fight cancer. 1. PBI 275A – Health Psychology I. FOODS THAT FIGHT CANCER ... “Foods That Fight Cancer: Preventing Cancer Through Diet” ...
http://www3.hi.is/~oddur/info/pc/fram/KFupplysingar/canada/VVG_Beliveau06.pdf

* INTRODUCTION How Foods Fight Cancer For many years, researchers ...
How Foods Fight Cancer. For many years, researchers have been investigating how food choices can help prevent cancer and, when cancer has been diagnosed, ...
http://www.cancerproject.org/resources/handbook/intro.pdf

A very long list, I am sending it to us at Yahoo and to Don.


3,541 posted on 03/03/2009 3:28:24 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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http://pdfse.com/free-patterns-to-make-toys-and-dolls

# KnittingDaily.com Offers New Patterns for Handmade Toys
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http://www.jeangreenhowe.com/Images/Rainbow_Babies.pdf


http://pdfse.com/free-doll-and-toy-patterns

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# Free Pattern
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http://dollmakersjourney.com/clown.pdf

Many other links.


3,542 posted on 03/03/2009 3:42:22 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall; TenthAmendmentChampion
LOL TAC is probably trying to catch up on her reading...

Thought I would jump in and answer...

1. Cistern - is a tank for liquid storage. Usually in ground, but can be above. Many old cisterns were stone and built in the ground to store rain water from the roof run-off.

2.OK, please don't throw anything at me...

10th Amendment is part of the Bill of Rights - The 10th is referred to as State's Rights Amendment... (but we peon people are also mentioned but seldom remembered)

Article X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

I'm sure you noticed that DC seems to have never read that far... Shoot, they are still trying to kill the 1st and 2nd Amendments...

Sorry TAC - just had to jump in...

3,543 posted on 03/03/2009 3:46:42 PM PST by DelaWhere ("Without power over our food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: CottonBall
Wish I hadn't ate pork and beans for 2 years after y2k ,,HA

I see car lots empty of customers

shopping carts not full and fewer “Big-ticket” carryouts

shortages of necessary dry-goods /supplies

sales , sales and come on down sales...

but most disturbing is the perception that we have been saved when the opposite is factual.

3,544 posted on 03/03/2009 3:48:08 PM PST by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: DelaWhere
Need help on pickling by the signs... OK don't laugh

is it OK to pickle when signs are above the belt ?

I know I’m gonna regret this post but I have some more okra

and signs in the arm tomorrow..

HELP

3,545 posted on 03/03/2009 3:51:41 PM PST by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Thanks for all the potato ideas, Granny. I ordered potatoes to try this year. Our neighbors have been growing them for years. I ordered red ones and an heirloom variety called fingerling salad potatoes. It says they are 1” in diameter and 2-4’ long. They are yellowish in color. I hope the potatoes do well. Our son & daughter-in-law tried planting some here about 2 years ago while they were staying with us. We didn’t get too many out of that batch. Maybe I’ll try some above ground method as well as the inground way and see what we get.


3,546 posted on 03/03/2009 3:54:08 PM PST by Marmolade
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To: DelaWhere

You’re welcome any time Del. Glad you are here. Do you have a cistern?


3,547 posted on 03/03/2009 3:58:48 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Keep it up granny, we need everything you can find, as long as you can stand it. Did it stop raining over there?


3,548 posted on 03/03/2009 4:00:18 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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http://pdfse.com/rainwater-harvesting

PDF and Ebooks for “rainwater harvesting”

* The Texas Manual on Rainwater Harvesting
publication, The Texas Guide to Rainwater Harvesting, Gail Vittori and Wendy Price .... Considerations for the Rainwater Harvesting System Owner . ...
http://www.twdb.state.tx.us/publications/reports/RainwaterHarvestingManual_3rdedition.pdf

* Rainwater Harvesting
A rainwater harvesting system has higher initial costs than buying water from the central water ... Simple Rainwater Harvesting System in Five Easy Steps ...
http://www.southface.org/web/resources%26services/publications/factsheets/27_rainwater-recovery-v2.pdf

* Choosing a Pump for Rainwater Harvesting
Choosing a Pump for Rainwater Harvesting. IntRoduCtIon. Water harvesting is the practice of cap- turing rainwater runoff, normally from ...
http://www.bae.ncsu.edu/stormwater/PublicationFiles/Pump4Cisterns2006.pdf

List continues..........


3,549 posted on 03/03/2009 4:01:22 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

thx for the answers, DW!


3,550 posted on 03/03/2009 4:01:34 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

I have created the files and am going through them while at dialysis. I will post them soon now that we have the 4500 posts from the old thread and the new one.


3,551 posted on 03/03/2009 4:01:51 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Thanks for doing that, TAC. It is very much appreciated.

Dialysis! Yikes! Are you eligible for or waiting for a transplant?


3,552 posted on 03/03/2009 4:05:51 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Eagle50AE
sales , sales and come on down sales...

Especially on pretty useless items. Like green tropical dinnerware!
3,553 posted on 03/03/2009 4:07:50 PM PST by CottonBall
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http://pdfse.com/pdf—e-book

PDF and Ebooks for “pdf e book”

* How to Create Adobe PDF eBooks
After you’ve created your Adobe PDF eBook, it’s a good idea to ..... 8 Upload your Adobe PDF eBook toAdobe Content Server and enter the book’s ...
http://www.arabicebook.com/documents/convert%2520eBook.pdf

* Learn to Fly e-book
This is a free ebook! You are encouraged to email it to anyone who may be interested in becoming a pilot. Bloggers are welcome to link to this free download ...
http://www.sjflight.com/LearntoFlyebook.pdf

# How to Find Lost Objects
E. LEVEN. :. Tail Thyself .......................................32 ...... An engaging book—highly recommended to anyone wanting ...
http://www.professorsolomon.com/graphics/howtofindlostobjects.pdf

[continues, wide variety of subjects.]


3,554 posted on 03/03/2009 4:08:45 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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http://pdfse.com/vegetable-gardeners-bible

# Gardening Gardening Gardening Gardening
Also available – books on greenhouse, vegetable and container gardening, pests, ... Garden Design. The flower gardener’s bible: time-tested ...
http://www.mohrlibrary.org/content/images/gardening.pdf

# Composting The Recycling of Household and Backyard Wastes ...
The path to the garden of your dreams leads right through the middle of a compost pile. (The Vegetable Gardener’s Bible: Storey Books, Edward ...
http://jccwmg.org/PDF/MGCompostManual.pdf

# VEGETABLE REFERENCES Brent Rowell and Paul R. Bachi Extension ...
Rodale’s Illustrated Encyclopedia of Organic Gardening. 2005. Anna Kruger. 416 pp. $25.00. The Vegetable Gardener’s Bible. 2000. Edward C. Smith. 309 pp. ...
http://www.ca.uky.edu/agcollege/plantpathology/ext_files/veg_ref.pdf

list continues.


3,555 posted on 03/03/2009 4:15:37 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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http://www.scitopics.com/Spices_and_Plantation_Crops_Bioactive_Compounds_Colourants_and_Flavourants.html

Spices and Plantation Crops: Bioactive Compounds, Colourants and Flavourants

14 September 2008
authors Dr Lingamallu Jagan Mohan Rao
Category:
Agricultural and Biological Sciences

Food Science


SciTopics is a free expert-generated knowledge-sharing service for the scientific community. Developed to serve as an information and collaboration service for researchers, SciTopics offers authors a dynamic, quick, informal yet authoritative online publication platform.

more » [Use above link]


http://www.scitopics.com/categories.jsp?domain=1100

This link for home, health, plants and much more.]


3,556 posted on 03/03/2009 4:37:52 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Eagle50AE; nw_arizona_granny

>>>Need help on pickling by the signs...<<<

Oh boy - Eagle50AE, you stumped me on that one...

Moon signs have always been a mystery to me...

Waxing, Waning, dark, light, first quarter, third quarter, and all the other moon terminology all run together in my mind... I do get the dark of the moon and the full moon, along with Blue Moon, and Harvest Moon, but aside from those, it always seemed too complex to spend the time to figure out and fully understand... Engineer in me keeps wanting to know WHY & HOW?

I do think there is something to it, as I can remember in the late ‘40s when my father was managing the building of the Sears warehouse in Cuba, They were waiting for the shelving to be sawn. The sawyer said that if he sawed it then, it would warp like crazy and he needed to wait for 2 more weeks so the sign would be right and it would dry straight... My father told him to saw half of it now - and the other half in two weeks, and not to worry, they would take it all...

Well he followed that lumber and the sawyer was right... Dad said it dried ‘crooked as a dog’s hind leg’. So, moon signs must work...

I do know that Grandpa Loomis always insisted on planting all root crops when the moon was dark and in the lower half of the body. (I think that was right - too many years ago...) And he insisted that weeding during another sign, said it kept them from growing back. He kept his almanac hanging in his garden shed - had a string through one of the holes they usually have punched in them and hung it on a nail right by the door.

Maybe my crop successes were dumb luck and I hit the right sign - but I don’t know if I did...

I tried Google and found several books for sale about it, but none of those good freebies...

Sorry. (Please note: I have refrained from any puns - twas hard, but I did it with a straight face - And that is REALLY HARD for me... LOL)

HELP Granny! - did you can and pickle by moon signs?


3,557 posted on 03/03/2009 5:27:01 PM PST by DelaWhere ("Without power over our food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

>>>Do you have a cistern?<<<.

OK, can’t resist this -

Yes & No....

I have what we used to call a swimming pool 4’ X 24’ holds about 13,500 gallons that I am thinking seriously about putting downspouts to through a flue.

We were going to get rid of it, I pumped it out twice, even cut holes in the bottom, and it still fills up - now about 3 1/2 feet deep... So, rather than fight it, I will consider it a garden ‘cistern’ for now. They say it may be dry this summer, so maybe I was supposed to keep it...


3,558 posted on 03/03/2009 5:43:51 PM PST by DelaWhere ("Without power over our food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: DelaWhere

After hubby sold his heating business and started devoting his time to his true love-”farming”- one of his projects involved restoring run down acreage and getting it producing again. Another government handout as big government would pay the farmers a set amount per acre for every acre reclaimed. Anyhow, hubby believed that alders should be plowed at a certain time of the moon or they would come back. I still believe those alders and other brush will come back whenever you plow them. We stubbornly hold on to our beliefs and still argue over it.


3,559 posted on 03/03/2009 5:52:42 PM PST by upcountry miss
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Nation’s Food System Nearly Broke, John Kinsman

As more farmers face bankruptcy, we all face a food emergency.

You can easily store foods for troubled times.
Learn how to do it yourself and $AVE!
Use our FREE Food Storage Planner.

February 26, 2009
John Kinsman
The Capital Times, Madison, WI

As our government enacts a stimulus package and President Barack Obama announces bold initiatives to stem home mortgage foreclosures, disaster threatens family farmers and their communities.

The government’s response to plummeting commodity prices and tightening credit markets leads to the basic question: Who will produce our food? This is a worldwide crisis. U.S. policy and the demand for deregulation at all levels — from food production to financial markets — contribute greatly to the global collapse. The solution must be grounded in food sovereignty so that all farmers and their communities can regain control over their food supply. This response makes sense here in Wisconsin and was the global message from the 500+ farmer leaders at the Via Campesina conference in Mozambique in October.

Many U.S. farmers are going out of business because they receive prices equal to about one half their cost to produce our food. How long could any enterprise receiving half the amount of its input costs stay in business? As an example, dairy farmers in the Northeast and Midwest must be paid between 30 and 35 cents per pound for their milk to pay production costs and provide basic living expenses. Until 1980, farmers received a price equal to 80 percent of parity, meaning that farmers’ purchasing power kept up with the rest of the economy. Unfortunately, a 1981 political decision discontinued parity, and today the dairy farmers’ share is below 40 percent.

“Free trade” and other regressive agricultural policies have decimated farms. We are now a food deficit nation dependent on food imports, often of questionable quality.

Our food system is nearly broke, which is almost as serious as our country’s financial meltdown. With fair farm policies, farmers would get fair prices that would not require higher consumers prices. The Canadian dairy pricing system is the best example that proves fair farmer prices can and often do bring lower consumer prices and a healthier rural economy. In addition, excessive middleman profits are taking advantage of both consumers and producers.

As more farmers face bankruptcy, we all face a food emergency. European farmers speak from thousands of years of experience on the importance of family farms when they warn us, “Any time a country neglects its family farm base and allows it to become financially bankrupt, the entire economy of that country will soon collapse. It may take generations to rebuild the farm economy and that of the country.”

Despite the magnitude of this food emergency, the “farm crisis” does not appear in headlines, so politicians are not compelled to provide political or financial assistance to something that would likely fail to bring votes. As farmers, we are now only about 1 percent of the U.S. population, and have little power to expose and prevent our demise. However, our urban and rural friends could be vital voices and advocates.

Bailing out the financial giants will not solve the financial crisis in the country, but the right policies and stimulus dollars could prevent a severe food crisis by saving farmers and workers. Furthermore, farm income dollars remain in and multiply at least two to four times in the local economy.

Family farmers have proposed fair food and farm policies that can be implemented at a fraction of the present multibillion-dollar policies destroying us. As the Treasury Department develops plans to distribute the bailout funds, the National Family Farm Coalition and others urge it to require banks receiving funds to treat their borrowers fairly by providing debt restructuring as an alternate to home or farm foreclosure or bankruptcy.

Concerned citizens can call the White House, 202-456-1111, or your members of Congress, 202-224-3121, to urge them to support policies that enable farmers to earn a fair market price; request an emergency milk price at $17.50 per hundred weight; provide price stability through government grain reserves and effective supply management; support the TRADE Act to be reintroduced in Congress; increase direct and guaranteed loans to family farmers; and ensure that the food we raise can be marketed to local schools and institutions, providing a better food supply at a fair price. We need these immediate changes in our food and farm policy.

John Kinsman, a dairy farmer from La Valle, is president of Family Farm Defenders, based in Madison.

http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/440669


3,560 posted on 03/03/2009 6:01:11 PM PST by DelaWhere ("Without power over our food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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