Why Obama has already lost in Supreme Court v Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro et al

Anti Mullah Blog ^ | 1/11/09 | Tom Waite

[FreeManN]

I’m smiling so much now because all this time Barack Obama has hired teams of lawyers to go to court and ask to dismiss all these lawsuits that have one similar theme—show proof you were born in the United States.

But now because just one of these ‘nuisance’ cases (as Obama sees it) has made it to the Supreme Court, the Justices have already out manoeuvred Obama and his team of high priced attorneys.

First, they’ve cornered Obama with a move of check by setting a conference date of January 9th (24 hours after congress counts the Electoral College’s votes) to discuss Berg’s writ of certiorari; the case can’t be dismissed—Berg will have legal standing!

And finally the Supreme Court has made its devastating move of checkmate by allowing a conference on January 16th to discuss Berg’s injunction to stop congress in counting the Electoral College’s votes!

There’s no more wriggle room left for Obama because essentially it’s a fait accompli by January 9th for him to hand over his evidence to the Justices otherwise, if he doesn’t comply by January 16th, the Justices’ will have it within their power to retroactively cancel the results from the January 8th Electoral College’s vote count!

So Obama tried to play a game of legal chess against the Supreme Court—well guess what? Obama—you’ve already lost! Checkmate!

[Jim Robinson]

Ok, well, I don’t know what the legal remedy would be or if there is precedent, but if he’s constitutionally ineligible then he should not be allowed to serve. Hopefully these things will be worked out.

[Drew68]

It's articles like this one below that make me not trust this man. They always say you can tell a lot about a person by looking at their friends;

You (and others) seem to have mistook my cynicism of this BC conspiracy (and the shady characters involved with it) as a full-on endorsement of Obama. That is not the case.

[fanfan]

But it isn’t going to be solved by the likes of Berg

Berg, Berg, Berg!

Why do you keep discussing Berg?

Nice try, but your template is stale.

[airborne]

What is most amusing is how astonishing ignorant the obots are.

Amusing?

I'm having trouble laughing, as I see my sons future fade.

These people need to be confronted at every turn, not negotiuated with or ignored.

They might be funny if they weren't so dangerous!

[DE88]

Because Berg was the pioneer of this whole charade? What was the subject of the OP? Berg.

[Non-Sequitur]

Ok, well, I don’t know what the legal remedy would be or if there is precedent, but if he’s constitutionally ineligible then he should not be allowed to serve. Hopefully these things will be worked out.

Agreed on both counts. Right or wrong I have enough faith in this country and it's institutions to believe that Obama will not serve if found ineligible. And I have enough hope to believe that at worst he will be a one term president. That's really what we all need to start concentrating on.

[fanfan]

I’ve already said Berg is not the issue.

Are you thick, or obtuse?

[DE88]

Whether it is Berg or whomever, it is the same issue. The same lack of evidence. Are you incapable if understanding that fact?

[nominal]

Yes, the date says late october on that document.

"I don't think that shows hundreds of thousands of dollars nor did I see any Obama documents related to any other case or the supreme court filings."

Alright.

Here's another related to the same case a little over a week later:

If I happen across any more I'll let you know. I only look at them because of the case law that's put in there by the slickster lawyers. Guessing games about exactly how much was spent I'll leave to others.

[nominal]

me and my html: http://www.fec.gov/law/litigation/berg_ac_obama_resp_emerg_mot.pdf

[nufsed]

My thoery is that after the election he is paying expenses from surplus campaign money. On the docs. I would expect any defense filing to be procedural and not have detail about proof that he is legitimate.

[seekthetruth]

I have given up trying to explain the difference between a “Certification of Live Birth” and a “Certificate of Live Birth” to those who just don’t get it. Even with pictures of one next to the other, they still do not get it. A “Certification” have very little information compared to what a “Certificate” has, and some STILL do not get it!

Barack Hussien Obama aka Barry Soetoro does not want to show his long form birth certificate, and so far has succeeded in keeping it from public view. He wouldn’t dare show his college applications either, and one can only guess why. Perhaps his name was Barry Soetoro from Indonesia, you think? That would mean he dropped his US citizenship as Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship. So when did he change his name back from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussien Obama? Those documents are not to be seen either.

[DrC]

“We will know sometime Monday morning. Here is the link to watch on Monday morning.
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/orders/08ordersofthecourt.html";

Thanks, but the orders posted for Jan. 9 clearly show that only 4 cases were accepted for review, none of them related to BHO’s citizenship:
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/orders/courtorders/010909zr.pdf

The norm is for cases in which certiorari is granted to be announced in the orders for the Friday these cases are reviewed. All other cases denied review by the Court typically are listed without comment the following Monday.
Thus, unless this has been handled in a non-routine matter, BHO’s citizenship case will AGAIN be listed Monday among the many other cases also denied review by the Court last Friday.

My goal isn’t to burst any bubbles: just to calibrate expectations to more realistic levels.

[nufsed]

Please explain how someone “drops” their US citizenship.

[nominal]

Only the big philly firm isn’t affiliated with the DNC or the Obama campaign like the other 2. And the philly firm wasn’t listed on opensecrets either, IIRC, but the other 2 were. e.g. The Sandler Reiff Young firm was charging ~$35-$45 thousand a month for months, but it doesn’t specify for what, exactly. Somebody knows, but not me.

[nufsed]

Thanx

[Ditter]

Don’t you hope so n00b.

[truth_seeker]

It makes no sense to do what 0 has done and continues to do, UNLESS he—to borrow from his own phrazemology—”HAS SOME SKIN IN THE GAME.”

Notice how many elected GOP folks are talkin about it? NONE

Maybe the skin Obama has, is waiting to burn the GOP with his certificate, if and only if required to do so by a court. Or if some prominent GOP people talk it up.

Remember when other (white) Presidents-elect handed out their birth certificates, in the past? NONE

Can you say racist rightwingers only want certificate from black President elect, although never required in the past?

Prominent GOP figures aren't walking into a fairly obvious political trap.

[seekthetruth]

Perhaps I should not have used the word “drop/ed”. Actually Obama didn't do it. His step father, Lolo Soetoro, adopted Obama and in doing so Obama became a citizen of Indonesia. Since Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship, Obama’s US citizenship (if he actually was born on US soil) would have been(given up;renounced;suspended;dropped; ?)

Obama as an adult could have gone through the process of legally reestablishing his US citizenship but no one has seen the documents showing that he did give up Indonesian citizenship and reinstate his US citizenship.

[Nipfan]

“So there ya go....we have to wait until Monday, the 12th.”

Unfortunately, their modus operandi seems to be to announce successful suits on Friday and unsuccessful ones on Monday.