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Now: The Rest of the Genome
The New York Times ^ | November 10, 2008 | CARL ZIMMER

Posted on 11/10/2008 7:54:59 PM PST by Soliton

Over the summer, Sonja Prohaska decided to try an experiment. She would spend a day without ever saying the word “gene.” Dr. Prohaska is a bioinformatician at the University of Leipzig in Germany. In other words, she spends most of her time gathering, organizing and analyzing information about genes. “It was like having someone tie your hand behind your back,” she said. But Dr. Prohaska decided this awkward experiment was worth the trouble, because new large-scale studies of DNA are causing her and many of her colleagues to rethink the very nature of genes. They no longer conceive of a typical gene as a single chunk of DNA encoding a single protein. “It cannot work that way,” Dr. Prohaska said. There are simply too many exceptions to the conventional rules for genes.

It turns out, for example, that several different proteins may be produced from a single stretch of DNA. Most of the molecules produced from DNA may not even be proteins, but another chemical known as RNA. The familiar double helix of DNA no longer has a monopoly on heredity. Other molecules clinging to DNA can produce striking differences between two organisms with the same genes. And those molecules can be inherited along with DNA.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: dna; emptydna; evolution; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; thefactis; wehavenoidea; whatsgoingon
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1 posted on 11/10/2008 7:55:00 PM PST by Soliton
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To: Soliton

We’re really in kindergarten when it comes to our understanding of biology. Exciting times...

Look at the advances in knowledge in the last decade or two, and imagine where we’ll be in another 20 years.


2 posted on 11/10/2008 8:08:07 PM PST by cryptical ("The future is already here; it's just not evenly distributed." - William Gibson)
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To: cryptical

God’s designs are there for us to learn from......


3 posted on 11/10/2008 8:11:11 PM PST by raygunfan
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To: raygunfan
God’s designs are there for us to learn from......

And improve on...

4 posted on 11/10/2008 8:17:14 PM PST by cryptical ("The future is already here; it's just not evenly distributed." - William Gibson)
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To: Soliton
Most of the molecules produced from DNA may not even be proteins, but another chemical known as RNA.

Duh. I don't think any proteins are produced from DNA except as mediated through RNA.
5 posted on 11/10/2008 8:19:37 PM PST by aruanan
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To: cryptical

If Obama socializes health care, medicine will progress very slowly. The limited progress will be in a direction that only a liberal will love.

Abortions, AIDs research, euthanasia, research on unborn aborted fetuses, homosexual diseases, etc will all be significantly advanced, but in ways that only a government could like.


6 posted on 11/10/2008 8:26:25 PM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: Soliton

Sounds more like a kludge than a deliberate design.


7 posted on 11/10/2008 8:27:07 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

no, no kludge at all, the original design was perfect, the degradation over the eons has made the imperfections....just like a new car will eventually fall apart even if it is never drive....


8 posted on 11/11/2008 4:49:41 AM PST by raygunfan
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no, no kludge at all, the original design was perfect

I know, but we've gone beyond one-celled organisms.

...the degradation over the eons has made the imperfections...

Mutations are both beneficial and harmful. The really harmful ones are weeded out. The beneficial ones spread.

just like a new car will eventually fall apart even if it is never drive....

Extremely poor analogy. New cars do not reproduce in your driveway.

9 posted on 11/11/2008 9:06:05 AM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: aruanan
You would be correct.

The only function of DNA is to make useful RNA’s. Many of the most useful RNA’s are mRNA’s that code for proteins.

10 posted on 11/11/2008 9:10:18 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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Scientist Reveals Genome Secret: It's Him

Scientist Reveals Genome Secret: It's Him
by Nicholas Wade
April 27, 2002
When scientists at Celera Genomics announced two years ago that they had decoded the human genome, they said the genetic data came from anonymous donors and presented it as a universal human map. But the scientist who led the effort, Dr. J. Craig Venter, now says that the genome decoded was largely his own. Dr. Venter also says that he started taking fat-lowering drugs after analyzing his genes... [M]embers of Celera's scientific advisory board expressed disappointment that Dr. Venter subverted the anonymous selection process that they had approved... Though the five individuals who contributed to Celera's genome are marked by separate codes, Dr. Venter's is recognizable as the largest contribution. He said he had inherited from one parent the variant gene known as apoE4, which is associated with abnormal fat metabolism and the risk of Alzheimer's, and that he was taking fat-lowering drugs to counteract its effects... Dr. Arthur Caplan, a biomedical ethicist at the University of Pennsylvania, said, "Any genome intended to be a landmark should be kept anonymous. It should be a map of all us, not of one, and I am disappointed if it is linked to a person."
Other folks get fired for surfin' the web at work. A little later Venter was forced out as president of Celera.
11 posted on 11/11/2008 5:01:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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How Science Is Rewriting the Book on Genes
The Washington Post | November 12, 2007 | David Brown
Posted on 11/12/2007 1:32:15 AM PST by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1924453/posts


12 posted on 11/11/2008 5:01:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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13 posted on 11/11/2008 5:01:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: martin_fierro

Whoops, I forgot again.


14 posted on 11/11/2008 5:02:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: cryptical
Look at the advances in knowledge in the last decade or two, and imagine where we’ll be in another 20 years.

Think they will finally have an answer for this?

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15 posted on 11/11/2008 5:13:44 PM PST by bigheadfred (FREE EVAN VELA, freeevanvela.com)
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To: Coyoteman

there are still one celled organisms that are more complicated then anything man has ever designed..

and the car analogy refers to degradation over time, not reproduction.

perfection in the original adam and eve was destroyed by the original sin and the degradation that followed thereafter....

perfection made imperfect due to sin.

obvious to all but the vain and those who perfer darkness to the light.


16 posted on 11/11/2008 5:15:47 PM PST by raygunfan
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To: bigheadfred

Quick ...lower her genome


17 posted on 11/11/2008 5:22:45 PM PST by woofie
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To: raygunfan
perfection in the original adam and eve was destroyed by the original sin and the degradation that followed thereafter....

perfection made imperfect due to sin.

That is a religious belief, not something for which there is any scientific evidence. It does not belong in a scientific discussion.

18 posted on 11/11/2008 5:43:30 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: woofie

How much lower can I get?


19 posted on 11/11/2008 5:51:11 PM PST by bigheadfred (FREE EVAN VELA, freeevanvela.com)
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To: Coyoteman

and neither does the religion of secular humanism masquerading as science....


20 posted on 11/11/2008 6:15:54 PM PST by raygunfan
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