Posted on 04/29/2008 11:20:59 AM PDT by mek1959
Like a marriage that has gone bad, I believe there are enough irreconcilable differences between those who want to control and those want to be left alone that divorce is the only peaceable alternative. Just as in a marriage, where vows are broken, our human rights protections guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution have been grossly violated by a government instituted to protect them. Americans who are responsible for and support constitutional abrogation have no intention of mending their ways.
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What would happen then? They (the blue areas) would either strike first, or send in the law to make sure the conservative areas are kept in line. This food inflation just might do it. No major city in the US has more than 6 days of food in it, and most have less than 3. I expect legal action to force farmers to sell food at a loss anytime now. And then the real fun begins.
And on EVERY issue I have listed, if you have a problem with McCain's position then you should vote for him. BECAUSE the OTHER candidate who is actually in the race (not just on the ballot) will be far worse than John McCain.
Anyone who can't understand that is incompetent and should not retain any voting rights anyway.
Yes, it is yet to be seen. Never in my lifetime have I seen Conservatives so pissed off. Never in my life have the Republicans dared to hoist up such an ignoble candidate. Under those conditions, anything can happen, and probably will.
Go ahead and vote for Clinton/Obama by writing in some fantasy candidate if you want [...]
Ahh, I see that like many of your fellows, you seem to have an insufficient grasp of the field of mathematics. I have seen enough of this to caution you that it must be a symptom of some kind, maybe a mass-hypnosis or something...
[...] [I]f you have a problem with McCain's position then you should vote for him [...]
Do you see how illogical your position is?
[...] BECAUSE the OTHER candidate who is actually in the race (not just on the ballot) will be far worse than John McCain.
According to whom?
Anyone who can't understand that is incompetent and should not retain any voting rights anyway.
Ahh... Another symptom... having the desire to take the rights away from Americans who disagree with them or their candidate... Just like their candidate, who has no regard for the rights of others... How very socialist...
Amen to that. Would'a, could'a, should'a is theory, and voting (or not) for those on the ballot is the reality, no matter how lousy the choice may be (and is, in this case).
I despise McCain...but I love my country more than that, and enough to do everything possible to stop either of the other 2.
The Republican primaries are over. Once that's the case, you no longer have a choice between a bunch of people who share many positions (even if not all) with you, and you're left with someone who maybe agrees with you 50%-75% of the time vs. someone who does so maybe 5% of the time. The choice, though not ideal, is clear between McCain and the others.
We conservatives have to do what Brooklyn Dodger fans did quite a bit..."Wait till next year."
Gee, I missed the part where he advocated treason and taking up arms. Can you quote that part to me?
I agree. This will go down even more smoothly, because the first states to "opt out" will be in our Southwest, and the liberal 'tards running the fedgov will fall over themselves in PC fervor to wish them well as they go.
And once Aztlan is gone, there will be no rationale for keeping any other splittist states in the union by force.
In any case, I doubt there will still be 50 states in 25 years.
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We have front row seats for the Fall of New Rome.
Start by reading Amity Shales “The Forgotten Man”, it's a GREAT book on how this mess was started. Next, move to one of the southern states and run for office as the only way to accomplish Williams plan is for the legislature to secede. Build coalitions amongst other freedom minded legislators and write a secession statement. Introduce the statement and debate the merits (kinda sounds like the first Constitutional Convention). Take notes and report on the debate for the Federalist Papers Part DEUX! Finally, call up the National Guard to defend the borders of the new territory from anti-secession forces (aka, Washington DC). Win, and enjoy prosperity and freedom as the founders intended. This is my intention in the next few years for sadly, I live in Maryland right now.
I ended up left with someone who agrees with me maybe 10% of the time and someone who agrees with me 0% of the time. I am NOT a happy camper. I'm expecting to vote for McCain, but if at the last minute my hand refuses to do it, I won't be surprised.
No matter how you slice up my words, or pull the middle of a sentence out to distort it, the truth still remains true. On any issue that you have a problem with John McCain, you will have a worse problem with Clinton or Obama. There is no mathematics left as far as who the GOP nominee is going to be. John McCain has a majority of pledged delegates. All the nutsy Ron Paul games in the world won't change that.
Just for grins, here's a slice and dice on your own words.
roamer_1: Yes... I ... like many ... socialist ... position. (Just havin' fun.)
Why don’t you enlighten us all from your vast reservoir of turdy knowledge? What is a “turd polisher”?
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Just what, exactly, is Williams planning on separating? Name a single state where a majority of the people hold to his position.
Separatism is clearly implied. Talk to your fellow confederates if you’re still confused.
Nice try at the switcheroo pal. You said “treason and taking up arms.”
We’re still waiting for that reference.
Or, we can just mark you down as a troll who pulls lies right out of his butt.
Oh, I cry BS on that accusation. The only thing that I can see for you to complain about is this bit:
[...] [I]f you have a problem with McCain's position then you should vote for him [...]
...Which is not out of context at all. It says precisely what is stated. I purposefully split the sentence down to it's barest form to show you how silly it is.
On any issue that you have a problem with John McCain, you will have a worse problem with Clinton or Obama.
As I had asked once before:
According to whom?
There is no mathematics left as far as who the GOP nominee is going to be. John McCain has a majority of pledged delegates. All the nutsy Ron Paul games in the world won't change that.
Again, what you said was this:
Go ahead and vote for Clinton/Obama by writing in some fantasy candidate if you want [...]
A vote for anyone other than Clinton/Obama is *not* a vote for Clinton/Obama. That's that math thing going on, see. It only counts for Clinton/Obama if the vote actually goes in their column.
And I never said that McCain was not going to be the GOP nominee. I said there would be a Conservative on the ballot. I did not say that Conservative would be a Republican, which would be patently absurd. Everyone knows that McCain is a liberal, Just like his Democrat opponent will be.
I understand your statement, but it’s sort of hard to poll on something that’s never been discussed in detail. William’s is merely positing an idea. It’s up to leaders in a state to pick it up and run with it. Obviously, William’s article didn’t get much traction back in 2000, but the times have changed significantly since then and we’re headed for some very difficult times. Maybe the ground is a little more fertile for these types of discussions, that’s all. At the end of the day, a few states operating under true federalist principles, with all those difficulties is better than the absolute mess we have today.
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