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Rape Accuser Had Photo ID'd Possible DNA Match
NBC CHANNEL 17 ^ | 5/11/06

Posted on 05/11/2006 9:17:59 PM PDT by TexKat

DURHAM, N.C. -- A Duke lacrosse player whose DNA may match tissue found under the fake fingernails of an exotic dancer who claims she was raped was identified in a photo lineup with 90 percent certainty, sources tell NBC-17.

The Durham Herald-Sun reported Thursday tissue found under the accuser's acrylic fingernail came from the same genetic pool and was "consistent" with the bodily makeup of one of 46 lacrosse players who gave DNA samples for testing.

The paper cites several sources and said scientists also ruled out a possible match with any of the other 45 students, according to the sources.

If accurate, the fingernail tissue match would offer the first DNA evidence potentially linking the dancer and an alleged attacker.

But because a complete DNA pattern was not obtained from the tissue, it was not possible to match it with the nearly 100 percent certainty that DNA results usually offer, the sources added.

90 Percent Certainty

Now, NBC-17 has learned that the player is not one of the two already accused in the case -- Reade Seligmann, of Essex Fells, N.J., and Collin Finnerty, of Garden City, N.Y. He is, however, a player that the alleged rape victim picked out in a police lineup with 90 percent certainty.

The 27-year-old North Carolina Central University student told police she was beaten and raped by three lacrosse players while she performed at a March 13 team party. She said she clawed at the players in an effort to fight them off.

Never Applied?

Defense attorneys claim, however, that nothing about the reported possible DNA match means anything to the case if you look at the type of fingernails, where they were found, and if you look at a picture of the accuser's hand shortly after she arrived at the party.

According to defense attorneys, police found four stick-on acrylic fingernails in a trashcan at 610 Buchanan Street, the house where the party took place. The tissue connected to the possible DNA match was found under one of those fingernails.

But defense attorneys said the third player accused lived at the house and it is no surprise that trace amounts of his DNA could be found inside his own trashcan. They also said they don't believe the type of fingernails that were found -- the kind that are applied with an adhesive strip -- actually ripped off during an attack. They don't believe the fingernails were ever applied and they say they have pictures to prove it.

NBC-17 has seen a picture of the dancer's hand at the house when she performed her dance routine. It appears that long, fake fingernails were on some of her fingers in that photo, but not all of them.

Other photos show what defense lawyers believe is red fingernail polish on the walls of the house and on the railing outside the house. They believe the accuser was painting and applying her nails while at the party.

Defense attorneys admit that none of them have seen the DNA report the Herald Sun article is based upon, but they said if District Attorney Mike Nifong has the DNA report, their clients are entitled to see it.

Accuser's Father Responds

The accuser's father called reports of a DNA break in the case long overdue.

"I wasn't surprised to hear that. I feel like we should have learned it before," he said.

Kim Roberts, another dancer who performed at the party where the alleged attack took place, paid an emotional visit to the accuser's parents on Thursday.

"It was real emotional -- she was crying, my wife was crying. She said that she was sorry she left (outside) the house before my daughter did," the accuser's father said.

Authorities said they would know what the DNA shows by early next week.


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the FBI publishes "Forensic Science Communications" online.....

"Forensic Science Communications (FSC, ISSN 1528-8005) is a peer-reviewed forensic science journal published quarterly in January, April, July, and October by FBI Laboratory personnel. It is a means of communication between forensic scientists."

Forensic Science Communications premiered in April 1999. Back issues are archived and available via the following links:

2006 (Volume 8)
2005 (Volume 7)
2004 (Volume 6)
2003 (Volume 5)
2002 (Volume 4)
2001 (Volume 3)
2000 (Volume 2)
1999 (Volume 1)

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/fsc/current/backissu.htm







141 posted on 05/12/2006 7:03:24 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Sacajaweau
Durham police had no ulterior motive when they arrested an alibi witness on an old misdemeanor warrant, District Attorney Mike Nifong said Thursday.

This is funnier than the Redneck Comedy Tour.

Wouldn't you love to see Southpark take this on?

142 posted on 05/12/2006 7:10:56 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: snarkytart

I hope so.


143 posted on 05/12/2006 7:20:05 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: Neverforget01; Howlin
Howlin has been telling us that the private lab was running the same tests as the SBI. Nifong has been saying for some time that the defense lawyers were not saying all they knew about the SBI DNA tests. Maybe the SBI previously got the exact same result as the private lab and the defense didn't talk about it. Thus the tendency of Nifong to characterize the SBI DNA result as "inconclusive".

We know that the private lab did not get a perfect match with 100% certainty. As someone else posted upthread, perhaps the SBI has a higher standard for what constitutes a "match" as opposed to the private lab.

Perhaps all this has been known to both Nifong and the defense for some time and Nifong simply needed the private lab to call it a "match" when the SBI wouldn't?
144 posted on 05/12/2006 7:21:54 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath
Perhaps all this has been known to both Nifong and the defense for some time and Nifong simply needed the private lab to call it a "match" when the SBI wouldn't?

Do you recall when the first DNA results were known? Was it before or after the photo lineup?

145 posted on 05/12/2006 7:28:33 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: darbymcgill
April 4: Photo lineup.

April 10: Final SBI (non) DNA results received.

April 11: Nifong says at NCCU case is not going away.

So the lineup occurred before the final results were released. It is said that the SBI sent out preliminary results prior to the final results. It is thought that the arrival of the preliminary results was what caused Nifong to shut up. Anybody remember when Nifong started keeping his mouth shut?
146 posted on 05/12/2006 7:47:15 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
The guy was "smart" to be interviewed live shortly after the event. The phone records and ATM records are good, hard evidence of TIME.

I remember my son getting picked up by a trooper in NY for speeding. My son said he knew "absolutely" that he was not. The cop asked him if he was on drugs. According to a local attorney, this happens all the time in this town and the cop always wins "on his word". My son was distressed and regrets not fighting it but at the time, he was on his way to a new defense contract job.

The next problem he had, he called me for advice BEFORE doing anything. I told him what to do. He beat General Motors "in Court" by simply sending them certified letters, receipt return requested as this progressed. He was pretty happy. It was irrefutable evidence and the nuts and bolts of the case.

147 posted on 05/12/2006 7:50:17 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Locomotive Breath

Thanks...

Rats... conference call at 10... I'll explain why I asked in a bit...


148 posted on 05/12/2006 7:56:40 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: darbymcgill
Don't you hate it when your livelihood gets in the way of your freeping?
149 posted on 05/12/2006 7:59:00 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

Absolutely.... brb


150 posted on 05/12/2006 8:01:24 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: Locomotive Breath

There is a now-archived Herald-Sun article from 4/4 titled "DA Halting Interviews Unitl Update".


151 posted on 05/12/2006 8:07:24 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: JLS
If this case starts negatively affecting Duke,

You've got to be kidding.

The damage done to Duke thus far has been immeasurable. This mess could not have happened at a worse time. Acceptance letters for incoming freshmen were out and the deadline for mailing back checks was May 1st. I bet Duke is already dipping into their waiting list and the 'summer melt' hasn't even started.

Then there is the little matter of alumni donations. The development office must be on Paxil.

152 posted on 05/12/2006 8:12:19 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: GAgal; darbymcgill

Thanks. So he got those preliminary negative results back from SBI and then sat down CGM for a photo lineup. Hmmm...

Here's the part of the photo lineup transcript that was redacted.

MN:
I'm way the hell out on a limb here and it's your fault. Now pick three.

CGM:
Eeny Meeny Miney Moe...


153 posted on 05/12/2006 8:14:49 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

it looks to me that ALL 13 locus parameters must be ID'd in a DNA profile submitted to the FBI for the NDIS (National DNA Index System), reading 6.5 at the link below. If (as generally acknowledged) Nifong has less than 13, IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AS IDENTIFICATION TO THE FBI.

http://forensics.marshall.edu/NEST/Nest%20PDFs/Documents/AppendB-NDIS-0505.pdf

scrol to para 6.5, which includes a chart....


154 posted on 05/12/2006 8:25:53 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Locomotive Breath

I found another part of the transcript

MN:
I'm way the hell out on a limb here and it's your fault. Now pick three.

CGM:
Eeny Meeny Miney Moe...
Catch a white boy by the toe
If he hollered "She's a 'ho"
My - mama - told - me - to - pick - the - very - rich - one - and - it - is - you.


155 posted on 05/12/2006 8:26:33 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath
I do not think the first SBI results were after the photo lineup. I know the defense team received the results at that time and the media found out about it around the 10th of April, but I am willing to bet Nifong had them for a week or so before handing them over to the defense.
I definitely think he had a preliminary results from the SBI before the photo ID.
156 posted on 05/12/2006 8:30:41 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Locomotive Breath
What a farce....Too bad she picked two guys who had called a cab. There is a very, very narrow time frame for rape to have occurred by not just one....but three guys.

Assuming that each occurence took 2 minutes (hey, they're young), that leaves about 10 minutes for her to get dressed including putting on her shoes, fixing her hair, wiping her tears, fix her makeup, get rid of THEIR hair fibers on HER clothing, spray the rug with disinfectant to get rid of HER body fluids....and step onto the porch and smile for the camera.

Why hasn't anyone mentioned how big the bathroom was or where she was before she arrived (LATE) at the Duke House??

157 posted on 05/12/2006 8:33:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: snarkytart; Locomotive Breath

I want to hear an explanation for the three week delay in doing the line-up. The guys' pictures were taken on 3/23.


158 posted on 05/12/2006 8:34:40 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: ladyjane
I can't even begin to tell you how P*issed this Mrs. Duke Alumna and this Mr. Duke Alumnus are at Duke. We were outraged when they allowed the terrorist group to talk and recruit on campus but this whole thing is a new low. Brodhead is going to use this whole affair to "Yalify" Duke and get rid of men's sports too. I think his plans may fail because he is going to need men's sports after admission acceptances fall off. From what I can tell the alumni are outraged at Duke's behaviour. It doesn't surprise me that an alumnus is helping out the cab driver. One of the lacrosse players said that the alumni has been the single most supportive group. This is what happens when you import lilly-livered blue state yankees into the south (see our screen name). They think they know the culture and all they know is their ivy-leagued ideology of racial politics. Hopefully there will be a change of venue to where rational red staters hold some sway.
159 posted on 05/12/2006 8:34:53 AM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: Locomotive Breath

Remember in the first defense press conference when they said that there was a small amount of "material" that was "inconclusive?"

I think it's the same "matter."


160 posted on 05/12/2006 8:37:37 AM PDT by Howlin
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