Greek treasures unearthed (Minoans, Linear A, Linear B)

News 24 dot com ^ | November 12, 2005 | staff writer

[SunkenCiv]

[T]he finds were excavated at a long-abandoned site on a hill overlooking the port of Chania in Western Crete, which has been identified with the Minoan city of Kydonia. Among the discoveries was an amphora containing an intact text written in linear B, the language of the court at Mycenae where the legendary Agamemnon ruled. Also found were two terracotta tablets containing texts in Linear A, an even older alphabet - used around 1700 years before the common era - which has not yet been deciphered. The ministry said the archaeologists found evidence of a violent fire believed to have destroyed a town on the site around 1450 BCE. Excavations uncovered traces of a road and two ceramic ovens from the Roman period... The researchers also found traces of a cemetery containing amphorae and funerary urns dating around the time the ancient Greeks set off to invade Sicily in the late fifth century BCE.

[SunkenCiv]

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[Dustbunny]

Interesting .

I still hate the BCE instead of BC.

[Ciexyz]

Most cool.

[SunkenCiv]

:') Yeah, it's a semantic thicket out there.

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The Linear B Tablets and Mycenaean Social, Political, and Economic Organization
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The Linear B Tablets and Mycenaean Social, Political, and Economic Organization
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[SunkenCiv]

Here are the titles and links to the 29 lessons in the Bronze Age Aegean available at Dartmouth College' website. In a file the text exceeds 800K. [List revised Thursday, June 26, 1997, and again Sunday, November 13, 2005]

• Chronology and Terminology
• Environment
• History of the Discipline
• 1: The Southern Greek Palaeolithic, Mesolithic, and Neolithic Sequence at Franchthi
• 2: The Neolithic Cultures of Thessaly, Crete, and the Cyclades
• 3: The Eutresis and Korakou Cultures of Early Helladic I-II
• 4: The Early Cycladic Period
• 5: The Early Minoan Period:The Settlements
• 6: The Early Minoan Period: The Tombs
• 7: Western Anatolia and the Eastern Aegean in the Early Bronze Age
• 8: The 'Lefkandi I' and Tiryns Cultures of the Early Hellaadic IIB and Early Helladic III Periods
• 9: Middle Helladic Greece
• 10: Middle Minoan Crete
• 11: The First Palaces in the Aegean
• 12: Minoan Architecture: The Palaces
• 13: Minoan Domestic and Funerary Architecture of the Neopalatial and Post-Palatial Periods
• 14: Late Minoan Painting and Other Representational Art: Pottery, Frescoes, Steatite Vases, Ivories, and Bronzes
• 15: Minoan Religion
• 16: The Shaft Graves
• 17: Akrotiri on Thera, the Santorini Volcano and the Middle and Late Cycladic Periods in the Central Aegean Islands
• 18: The Nature and Extent of Neopalatial Minoan Influence in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean Worlds
• 19: Mycenaean Tholos Tombs and Early Mycenaean Settlements
• 20: Mycenaean Residential Architecture: Palaces and Ordinary Housing
• 21: Mycenaean Public and Funerary Architecture: Fortifications, Drainage Projects, Roads, and Chamber Tombs
• 22: Aspects of Mycenaean Trade
• 23: Troy VI
• 24: Mycenaean Pictorial Art and Pottery
• 25: The Linear B Tablets and Mycenaean Social, Political, and Economic Organization
• 26: Mycenaean and Late Cycladic Religion and Religious Architecture
• 27: Troy VII and the Historicity of the Trojan War
• 28: The Collapse of Mycenaean Palatial Civilization and the Coming of the Dorians
• 29: Post-Palatial Twilight: The Aegean in the Twelfth Century B.C.

[ThanhPhero]

Just remember that it stands for Before Christian Era

[eleni121]

Greek Ping!

Thanks Sunken Civ

[Kolokotronis]

"[T]he finds were excavated at a long-abandoned site on a hill overlooking the port of Chania in Western Crete, which has been identified with the Minoan city of Kydonia.

I take it we would translate the name of the city as "Quincy"? :)

[Mount Athos]

Just a slightly offtopic thought...

Minoans were crazy about pomegranates, the populace was continually required to give the king large urns filled with them.

Now we are finding out that compounds in Pomegranates are the best cancer preventers/fighters around.

[Old Student]

"Just remember that it stands for Before Christian Era"

according to every authoritative text I've read in the past 30 or 40 years, it means Before Common Era. The intent was to both eliminate specific references to Christianity in non-christian contexts, and to help eliminate the introduced errors caused by sloppy calculations and incomplete records in the BC/AD dating system. I can stand to use either system, unlike some, but I do like the attempt at better precision. I can't understand why so many people insist on a dating system so full of errors and inconsistencies...

When and if they ever come up with a better system, I'll accept that, and dump BCE/CE just as quickly. I'm not tied to Bishop Ussher, or anyone else, in matters of dating.

[ThanhPhero]

You can insist on "Common" if you like, but I will stick to "Christian." I prefer not to accept the pagans' usage.

[Old Student]

"You can insist on "Common" if you like, but I will stick to "Christian." I prefer not to accept the pagans' usage."

It's not pagan, and it's not Christian. It's just a way to measure time. I'm a Christian, but I'm not an Anglican, so I see no reason to use their system, either, which the BC/AD system is, effectively. Like I said, Ussher's been dead a long time, and he made some really lousy assumptions in his calculations.

I won't insist you use it correctly, though, as that's your choice.

[SunkenCiv]

You're most welcome.

[SunkenCiv]

Tasty juice (makes a particularly good ice cream smoothie), but the fruit is complicated to eat IMO. :')

[ThanhPhero]

I don't "use" BCE but I read it with the proper reference. The time division is, just coincidentally, related to the birth of Christ. It is a Christian notation, however you want to call it. I shan't change my usage for political correctness. Now if some different time divisìon were to be decreed, say, the Reign of Hammurabi then I should have to read the notation BH as Before Hammurabi.

[Bella_Bru]

Very cool. Do you operate the GGG list? If so, please add me.

[Old Student]

As you like it.

[SunkenCiv]

Hey, check this out:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1521086/posts?page=10#10

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