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British Have Changed Little Since Ice Age, Gene Study Says
National Geographic News ^ | July 19, 2005 | James Owen

Posted on 07/26/2005 8:41:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

"There's been a lot of arguing over the last ten years, but it's now more or less agreed that about 80 percent of Britons' genes come from hunter-gatherers who came in immediately after the Ice Age," Miles said... New evidence for the genetic ancestry of modern Britons comes from analysis of blood groups, oxygen traces in teeth, and DNA samples taken from skeletal remains... The most visible British genetic marker is red hair, he added. The writer Tacitus noted the Romans' surprise at how common it was when they arrived 2,000 years ago. "It's something that foreign observers have often commented on," Miles said. "Recent studies have shown that there is more red hair in Scotland and Wales than anywhere else in the world. It's a mutation that probably occurred between 8,000 and 10,000 years ago."

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1 posted on 07/26/2005 8:41:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

I always thought of red hair as a more Irish than Scottish thing...


2 posted on 07/26/2005 8:42:31 AM PDT by RockinRight (Democrats - Trying to make an a$$ out of America since 1933)
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3 posted on 07/26/2005 8:43:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: RockinRight

Redheads 'are neanderthal'
Source: Times UK
Posted on 04/17/2001 07:38:43 PDT by sirgawain
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3adc5573604d.htm

Neanderthal Genome May Be Reconstructed
AP via Yahoo! | 7/6/05 | Not given
Posted on 07/06/2005 10:10:07 AM PDT by malakhi
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1437691/posts


4 posted on 07/26/2005 8:45:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

My Daddy, who is of Welsh heritage, and his relatives have black hair and either blue or brown eyes, with fair or ruddy skin tone. I thought this was distinctive because I always associated black hair with Italians and Jews.


5 posted on 07/26/2005 8:48:53 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Ciexyz

"My Daddy, who is of Welsh heritage, and his relatives have black hair and either blue or brown eyes, with fair or ruddy skin tone. I thought this was distinctive because I always associated black hair with Italians and Jews."

Many Jews first travelled to the Islands with the Romans as traders and business folk.


6 posted on 07/26/2005 8:51:26 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Please, no jokes about dentistry and deodorant, they're our allies.

D'oh!

7 posted on 07/26/2005 8:52:17 AM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: SunkenCiv

Old stick-in-the-muds!


8 posted on 07/26/2005 8:53:22 AM PDT by ahayes
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To: adam_az
Many Jews first travelled to the islands with the Romans as traders and business folk.

I find the topic of early Britain most fascinating. Michael Woods (the PBS guy) has at least two books concerning the legacy of early Britain (well worth reading. Do a search on amazon.com to bring up Woods' catalogue.)

9 posted on 07/26/2005 8:55:29 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: SunkenCiv

"British Have Changed Little Since Ice Age, Gene Study Says"


BS, they started as rugged individualists and turned into a bunch of socialist sissies who let in angry muslims, give them visas, put them on the dole, mollycoddle Palestinian terrorsts... then are unbelievably shocked when the same Muslims turn around and kill them.

Example - this article is from... 2002!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/england/2252361.stm

Hard-line Muslims attending a north London mosque for a controversial conference marking the 11 September attacks have described Osama Bin Laden as a "hero".

They also warned that if Britain were on the "agenda" it "would see suicide bombings everywhere".

The conference, at the Finsbury Park mosque, was organised by al-Muhajiroun, whose supporters hung banners from the building, calling for Britain to be turned into an Islamic state.

Entitled September 11: A Towering Day in History, some of Britain's most radical Muslim clerics were meeting to discuss topics including the "positive outcomes" of the attacks.

(exceprted)


10 posted on 07/26/2005 8:56:07 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Their cuisine has yet to eveolve from the ice age! ;o)


11 posted on 07/26/2005 9:02:42 AM PDT by pissant
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Migrants Poured Into Britain After Ice Age
Scotsman.com | 10-26-2003 | John von Radowitz
Posted on 10/26/2003 4:46:38 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1008605/posts


12 posted on 07/26/2005 9:08:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: pissant

I think Chirac said the same thing recently. :)

Hmmm, black pudding. Such a tasty breakfast food ... (gck!)


13 posted on 07/26/2005 9:15:59 AM PDT by Betis70 (Every generation needs a new revolution)
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To: SunkenCiv
evidence for the genetic ancestry of modern Britons comes from analysis of blood groups, oxygen traces in teeth

Well no wonder those cavemen were all so cranky. They had British teeth.

14 posted on 07/26/2005 10:01:07 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sicked and tired!)
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To: adam_az

Yes, they've gone soft. Although the toxin of socialism can strike most any community, I wonder if it becomes inevitable at a certain critical population density, or a certain level of government organization. I look at the US map of red and blue states, and see the blue in the areas of heavy population, and I wonder. When people were more self-sufficient---when they had to be---socialism was seen as the fraud it is. But when people depend on the government, and this they do where there are high concentrations of people---then socialism is seen as a possible solution, or at least an approach to some desirable goal, rather than a fraud.
If by some unimaginable contretemps, the British government collapsed utterly, I think that would separate wheat from chaff and serve as a healthy "reset" of the society.
And America is not much better, on the gangrenous blue edges of the property.


15 posted on 07/26/2005 10:03:06 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: SunkenCiv

OH no!
Not redhaired neanderthals again!
They're everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!


16 posted on 07/26/2005 10:11:27 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Graymatter

"And America is not much better, on the gangrenous blue edges of the property."

agreed.


17 posted on 07/26/2005 10:14:06 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: RockinRight
"I always thought of red hair as a more Irish than Scottish thing..."

Present day Libyians have the same incident of red-hair as the Irish. The Melanisians in the Pacific have red-hair as well as the Aboriginies of Australia...red-hair is not recent and goes waaay back in time.

18 posted on 07/26/2005 11:57:57 AM PDT by blam
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To: Ciexyz; adam_az
English And Welsh Are Races Apart


19 posted on 07/26/2005 12:05:01 PM PDT by blam
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To: All

HA! everyone knows that the British are descendants from one of the lost tribles of Israel!!!


20 posted on 07/26/2005 1:35:57 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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