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Hobbit remains found in Australia
Reuters ^ | Wed, Oct 27, 2004 | Patricia Reaney

Posted on 10/27/2004 10:51:55 AM PDT by presidio9

Scientists in Australia have found a new species of hobbit-sized humans who lived about 18,000 years ago on an Indonesian island in a discovery that adds another piece to the complex puzzle of human evolution.

The partial skeleton of Homo floresiensis, found in a cave on the island of Flores, is of an adult female that was a metre (3 feet) tall, had a chimpanzee-sized brain and was substantially different from modern humans.

It shared the isolated island to the east of Java with miniature elephants and Komodo dragons. The creature walked upright, probably evolved into its dwarf size because of environmental conditions and coexisted with modern humans in the region for thousands of years.

"It is an extraordinarily important find," Professor Chris Stringer, of the Natural History Museum in London, told a news conference on Wednesday. "It challenges the whole idea of what it is that makes us human."

Peter Brown of the University of New England in Armidale, Australia, and his colleagues made the discovery of the skull and other bones, and miniature tools in September 2003 while looking for records of modern human migration to Asia. They reported the finding in the science journal Nature.

"Finding these hominins on an isolated island in Asia, and with elements of modern human behaviour in tool making and hunting, is truly remarkable and could not have been predicted by previous discoveries," Brown said in a statement.

Local legends tell of hobbit-like creatures existing on islands long ago but there has been no evidence of them.

DESCENDENT OF HOMO ERECTUS

The hominin family tree, which includes humans and pre-humans, diverged from the chimpanzee line about 7 million years ago. Early African hominins walked upright, were small and had tiny brains.

The new species, dubbed "Flores man", is thought to be a descendent of Homo erectus, which had a large brain, was full-sized and spread out from Africa to Asia about 2 million years ago.

The new species became isolated on Flores and evolved into its dwarf form to conform with conditions, such as food shortages. Flores, which was probably never connected to the mainland, was home to a variety of exotic creatures including a dwarf form of the primitive elephant Stegodon.

Modern humans had reached Australia about 45,000 years ago but they may not have passed through Flores. The scientists suspect the new species became extinct after a massive volcanic eruption on the island about 12,000 years ago.

Brown and his colleagues have found the remains of seven other dwarf individuals at the same site since the first find.

"The other individuals all show similar characteristics, and over a time range that now extends from as long ago as 95,000 years to as recently as 13,000 years ago -- a population of hobbits that seemed to disappear at about the same time as the pygmy elephants that they hunted," said Bert Roberts, one of the authors of the Nature study.


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To: atomicpossum

My thoughts almost exactly! Everytime I see these reports I wonder what future generations will think about us if the only surviving skeletons are of Devito and Shaquille? What wonderful surmises they could make about our ancient-primitive society.


21 posted on 10/27/2004 10:56:58 AM PDT by metalcor
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To: presidio9
The new species, dubbed "Flores man", is thought to be a descendent of Homo erectus

did homo erectus use viagra?

22 posted on 10/27/2004 10:57:11 AM PDT by mlocher
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To: Constitution Day
PEOPLE! It's a work of FICTION.

Australia? ;-)

23 posted on 10/27/2004 10:57:34 AM PDT by TheBigB (Please Lord...let Bush win and I promise...no naughty thoughts about Lindsay Lohan for a week.)
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To: Constitution Day

did this come from the "hobbit hole" thread? is it going to it?


24 posted on 10/27/2004 10:57:42 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: JenB
Why am I getting these "New Zealander Builds Hobbit-Hole" flashbacks?

Thermobaric Bomb Destroys Hobbit Hole

;^)

25 posted on 10/27/2004 10:57:47 AM PDT by Constitution Day (I don't know where the sunbeams end and the starlights begin, it's all a mystery...)
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To: Marysecretary

Never accust Reuters of being careful with the facts. I'm suprised they didn't say Dubya killed him.


26 posted on 10/27/2004 10:57:50 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: PatrickHenry

ping


27 posted on 10/27/2004 10:57:52 AM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: presidio9
had a chimpanzee-sized brain and was substantially different from modern humans

A proto-Democrat!

28 posted on 10/27/2004 10:58:04 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
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To: presidio9
The partial skeleton of Homo floresiensis, found in a cave on the island of Flores, is of an adult female that was a metre (3 feet) tall, had a chimpanzee-sized brain and was substantially different from modern humans.

In other words, it was a small ape.

Just 'cause something was sorta shaped like a person and three foot tall don't make it a hobbit. Yeesh...everyone wants to get on the bandwagon these days...

29 posted on 10/27/2004 10:58:13 AM PDT by RosieCotton (He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative. - GKC)
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This discovery may dwarf all others!


30 posted on 10/27/2004 10:58:20 AM PDT by vollmond (Head back to base for debriefing and cocktails.)
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To: The Hollywood Conservative
You've got to be pulling my Legolas...

ROTFL!

32 posted on 10/27/2004 10:58:49 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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To: Constitution Day

Tell that to the Trekkers.


33 posted on 10/27/2004 10:59:05 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: presidio9

I'm Tom Daschle and I approved this discovery.


34 posted on 10/27/2004 10:59:08 AM PDT by byteback
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To: presidio9

Woo Hoo!


35 posted on 10/27/2004 10:59:11 AM PDT by NCSteve
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To: mlocher
homo erectus...

36 posted on 10/27/2004 10:59:19 AM PDT by TheBigB (Please Lord...let Bush win and I promise...no naughty thoughts about Lindsay Lohan for a week.)
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To: Constitution Day

Missed! Again!


37 posted on 10/27/2004 10:59:45 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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To: TheBigB

LOL


38 posted on 10/27/2004 11:00:37 AM PDT by mlocher
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To: mlocher
No, that would be homo-cialis

Or, the other species hetero-cialis....

39 posted on 10/27/2004 11:00:48 AM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: mlocher

In Brooklyn they'd say, "I got your Homo erectus, Right chere!".....


40 posted on 10/27/2004 11:00:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (Ask not for whom the Freeper freeps, they freep for thee........)
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