Posted on 02/28/2022 12:40:27 PM PST by conservative98
WVUfan222:
Levin: the birther tactic is crap, here's relevant statute:
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8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth....
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401
RDMercEER:
It didn't matter where Obama was born, it doesn't matter where Ted Cruz was born, it didn't matter where John McCain was born, it didn't matter where George Romney was born. The phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time. If one of your parents was a US citizen, which is the case in all four examples, you are a natural born US citizen.
This has been Levin's contention all along. Dishonest leftists, such was Pruto and whoisyourdaddy may want to do a little research, before spouting our their Alinskyite lies. Can either of you provide a link where Mark Levin said Obama couldn't be President because he wasn't a natural born US citizen?
I still don't think Obama was born in Hawaii, but it is a moot point, because at least one parent was a US citizen (and with the possibility of Frank Marshall Davis being his real dad, perhaps both). By birth status, he has every right to be the president.
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As well as a number of idiot FReepers also.........
Not only that, but all the children ‘created’ from male tourists and servicemen around the world; would be natural born citizens. Nuts.
The writers of the Constitution were “birthers” since they placed the clause in the Constitution.
Every word in the Constitution was debated. So when the “natural born” phrase was placed in it, it meant something — born of citizen parents (as the history professor told us in college) as defined directly by the Immigration Act of 1790. As a qualification for president, the only time it is used.
Mark Levin is not wrong. I think he has more knowledge of Constitutional law than you who is just an internet know it all........
Once the demented one goes south, we will be expected to place an overtly not ‘natural born citizen’ into the Oval Office. This absolutely should not be permitted.
This issue ought never be tucked away as it is is irrelevant. The Founders were prescient in their insisting upon the qualification.
The Constitution when written clearly states that there were 2 categories of Citizens. This was before any ‘Naturalization’ took place, which by any rational conclusion indicates that there are 3 categories of Citizens.
Not every Citizen is a ‘natural born citizen.’
One more piece on this from Aug 19, 2013....
Mark Levin: Attacked by a Birther at book signing, Declares Cruz Eligible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8__Iwc08MQ
(Levin talks about a guy screaming at him at a book signing in NJ about Ted Cruz and birtherism. Who knows this could have been a poster on a website? I’m not saying it was, but there is one from the area and the most obsessed about this.)
‘This guy gets in my face and points to some obscure note on page whatever. And he says you were wrong about this, you were wrong. And then he goes Ted Cruz is not eligible to be President! He’s not a natural born citizen! But he’s born of a mother who’s an American citizen. Doesn’t that make an American. “No because he was in Canada when he was born.” Ok. But she wasn’t Canadian. She was an American citizen. And so the issue isn’t what the constitution says in that regard. And the way I interpret it is. His mother is an American citizen, so he is an American citizen. That is not a constitutional issue. That is an interpretative issue or a statutory issue if Congress has passed some law subsequent to that to enforce that provision of the constitution. So the face of the constitution isn’t terribly helpful. If he was born of non-citizens in a foreign country that would be easy. So the guy gets in my face and starts pointing and pointing. So I looked at him and pointed back and I cursed unfortunately because he was a nutjob. So I ask him why do you come here and do that is that how you excite yourself or something? So I just want you people to know who like Ted Cruz, I assume they are going to do this to some of these other people. Whether you like Cruz or not for President, I am just making a point that this has become an entire industry. People just get obsessed or conspiratorial. And there is no end to it. And there is nothing I can point to or say that can change their mind. But in my view there is no doubt about it that he is eligible should he choose to run.’
You seem to be right. So she met the "4 years after age 14" requirement. Well, that's embarrassing. I read that she was 17 and never checked it.
Wong Kim Ark is widely considered to be the most significant Supreme Court case regarding the meaning of citizenship at birth.
You won't like what Wong Kim Ark says about this.
Outstanding post. The kind that makes Free Republic the BEST site on the web.
Yep, the phrase natural born citizen” has a meaning, and anybody willing to read can find it in Wong Kim Ark. Anybody who thinks it can ONLY mean someone who has two citizen parents, as opposed to someone being “legally” born here, is the equivalent of a Sovereign Citizen arguing with a police officer about the need to have a driver’s license or insurance - in other words, some kind of a nut.
I retract my post #87 above. I’ll have to check my old posts of the subject. Was the requirement for transfer of citizenship really that one parent was required to have five years of American citizenship after age 14?
FWIW, Al Hamilton, the bastard brat of a scotch peddlar, born on the island of Nevis, West Indies, was POTUS-eligible, despite not being a Natural Born Citizen of any relevant jurisdiction. All of John Adams’ children when born were subjects of the British Crown. Natural Born Subject by that time had expanded by Parliamentary stature to describe a host of newborn babies, which may explain Levin’s definition of Natural Born Citizen:. Anybidy born anywhere in the world to anyone except two non-citizen parents.
I wonder what it was that you read.
By the way, John Adams, overseas minister plenipotentiary negotiating for the independent United States of America, was tossing the exact term “Natural Born Citizen of the United States” around on drafts he authored of what became the 1783 Treaty of Paris. Trying to gain amnesty for our purebloods.
Maybe because this stupid article was from six years ago?
no its 5 years after 14
Because in the situation you are describing, when someone has lost their citizenship because they left the country, they’re not going to be eligible for the Presidency anyway so it becomes a non-issue.
You are aware that Wong Kim Ark cites the 14th amendment as the basis for it's conclusion?
What were "natural born citizens" before the 14th amendment?
Also, Wong Kim Ark specifically excludes people like Ted Cruz, who are born in a foreign country.
Constitutiinal NBC of US = Plain Vanilla, at least two generations removed from any Exotic Flavoring!!!
This crap gets tiresome........
My recollection from looking at this at the time was that she didn't meet the requirements, but don't make the mistake of thinking these requirements applied to birth inside the United States. The maternal residency requirements only applied to a birth outside of the United States.
I believe it was the Naturalization act of 1952 that applies to Barack Obama.
Should you actually read Wong Kim Ark, it will explain that all to you! But I suspect that it will do not good for you to read it, because, like The Sovereign Citizen, you will never admit that you are wrong. Nope. You will die and go to Hell before you ever admit that the fringe on the flag is meaningless, and that Capitalizing your name does not make you a different entity! Nope. Birther and Sovereign Citizens were transexuals in mindset before trannies became a thing - self identifying as whatever based on their subjective whims.
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