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Posted on 08/11/2004 1:15:09 PM PDT by disraeligears

The only officer supporting Kerry is on wptf; I need some quick, indisputable facts to call in to counter him.


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The only officer supporting Kerry is on wptf; I need some quick, indisputable facts to call in to counter him.
1 posted on 08/11/2004 1:15:10 PM PDT by disraeligears
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To: disraeligears
Suggested Swift Boat Vet Talking Points - Please Contribute!
2 posted on 08/11/2004 1:19:42 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Bob J; MeekOneGOP; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Ping


3 posted on 08/11/2004 1:21:23 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: disraeligears; The Shrew

The Shrew is at this momemt summarizing Swiftie talking points for use by FReepers.


4 posted on 08/11/2004 1:33:18 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: disraeligears

Curious. Old Fleetwood Mac album title?


5 posted on 08/11/2004 1:33:27 PM PDT by notforhire (It riles them to believe that we perceive the web they weave.)
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To: EdReform; disraeligears
Playing catchup today. Sorry I'm so slow getting here .....


Watch this TV AD!

Swiftvets who served with John Kerry talk about
UNFIT, DISHONEST John Kerry


DRUDGE:ANTI-KERRY VETS GATHER FOR ASSAULT;
BOOK CLAIMS KERRY WAR 'FABRICATIONS'


Excellent anti-Kerry video laying out the VietNam case against him...

Great to forward and spread to the public.

http://www.stopjohn.com/movies/hanoi-john.htm


Drudge 08-08-2004
Exclusive: Swift Officers and Vets:
Kerry lied about spending Christmas in Cambodia

Kerry: I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared--seared--in me.

DRUDGE has learned from the accounts of Swift Boat officers and Kerry’s crewmembers that Kerry was never in Cambodia. UNFIT FOR COMMAND authors charge that Kerry made it all up.

“Despite the dramatic memories of his Christmas in Cambodia, Kerry’s statements are complete lies,” according to John O’Neil, co-author and the Swift Boat commander who took over Kerry’s boat. “Kerry was never in Cambodia during Christmas 1968, or at all during the Vietnam War. . . . he was more than fifty miles away from Cambodia.”

Kerry was stationed at Coastal Division 13 in Cat Lo. Coastal Division 13’s patrol areas extended to Sa Dec, about 55 miles from the Cambodian border. . . . Tom Anderson, Commander of River Division 531, who was in charge of PBRs (small river patrol crafts] confirmed that there were no Swifts anywhere in the area and they would have been stopped had they appeared.

All the living commanders in Kerry’s chain of command . . . deny that Kerry was ever ordered to Cambodia. They indicate that Kerry would have been seriously disciplined or court-martialed had he gone there. At least three of the five crewmen on Kerry’s boat, Bill Zaldonis, Steven Hatch, and Steve Gardner, deny that they or their boat were ever in Cambodia.


Kerry Fitness Reports in Vietnam Show Him Unfit for Command
(Explodes Central Kerry Campaign Lie)

Kerry’s FITREPs are awash in dings, and some of the reports border on the adverse, particularly his combat FITREPs. The FITREPs convey significant performance problems and suggest problems in conduct, so much so that it is surprising that the campaign chose to release them. This may suggest that the FITREPs held from public view are even more adverse.

In what would customarily be an opportunity for a glowing “swan song” FITREP, the Commanding Officer of USS Gridley (DLG-21) tacitly blasts Kerry on his departure for Swift Boat duty by ranking him significantly below the norm in desirability for virtually every Navy assignment possible -– command, staff, whatever. He is a ship handler who is dinged in ship handling. He is in line for command, but his CO doesn’t want him near the bridge. He is slammed in all performance areas –- most notably and significantly in initiative and reliability. The “nice” narrative emphasizes performance in collateral duties, but in the grades and marks, the CO is telling the selection board and detailer loud and clear that this officer is lazy, unreliable and not suited for command. 3 SEP 68 (W.E. HARPER).




WinterSoldier.com


6 posted on 08/11/2004 4:50:49 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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Talking Points for Freepers Re: Swift Boat Veterans for Truth - www.SwiftVets.com
7 posted on 08/12/2004 7:19:48 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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