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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: BP2

And then again maybe Ann did send Susan Blake a postcard from a ship going etc...

“I got a postcard from a ship err I mean ...wouild you like a cup of coffee ??? Isnt the weather hot for this time of the year..........”


8,701 posted on 08/11/2009 5:58:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Fractal Trader

In Polks she is listed as Obama...

But that may be he only place she is called that...

The babysitter was also the manager of the house and apartments..

Ann could have claimed her name was Obama to claim a marriage and cover up her unwed status...

She may not have produced any ID to prove it...not in 1961..

Since she probably didnt have separate electric bills etc and probably no lease, tghat would require showin g a legal name, the landlady just took her as Obama and accepted her as married...

Remember the landlady/babysitter also was married to a foreigner...so she would not be prejudiced or wonder...

However if she did have separate bills, what name did she use ???

Ann is supposed to have driven a friends car...did she have a drivers license ???

I wonder what name was on the DL ??? That would have to ba a legal name...


8,702 posted on 08/11/2009 6:11:09 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: El Gato
you may want to consult the military, foreign affairs manual and the state dept before you quote what you have not researched.

A former assistant US attorney, Andrew McCarthy, has spoken and Obama’s travels on any foreign passport from the time he turned 18 is VERY MUCH an admission of his allegiance to a foreign country and in doing so he automatically renounced his US citizenship.

PERIOD..no going back for Obama on that one!

8,703 posted on 08/11/2009 6:15:32 PM PDT by patlin
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To: BP2
However, it wasn't until Spring 1962 that Obama Sr received two fellowships: one to pursue a doctorate in economics at the New York School for Social Research in New York City; the other for Harvard

I am doing some independent investigation of BHO senior's records at Harvard. He does not show up in Alumni Records, which is supposed to have the names of all students who have matriculated at Harvard. I am looking for independent confirmation, but it does not appear that there is a PhD thesis in the Harvard archives.

Given that BHO senior seemed to spend all his time giving political speeches, I think it is doubtful that he ever pursued serious studies at Harvard. I will get back to you when I have succeeded/failed in getting indpendent verification of the missing thesis.

8,704 posted on 08/11/2009 6:17:56 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Tennessee Nana; hoosiermama; Fred Nerks; LucyT; STARWISE
Susan Blake may have made the whole thing up...

I've been wondering if it was Susan Blake herself that picked up Ann Dunham Obama, her good high school friend, in San Francisco on a possible return flight from Kenya.

Susan says she was on vacation in Santa Cruz, about 30 miles south of SFO, in summer 1961 and left when the fires started. Shortly thereafter, she got a "surprise visit" from Ann in Seattle in late-August 1961, 3 weeks after Obama Jr's birth. I have to wonder if Ann and baby Obama weren't with Susan on the drive up from SFO to Seattle...

Anyone nail down a date range for the (forest?) fires that occurred near Santa Cruz in summer of 1961 of which Susan Blake spoke?

8,705 posted on 08/11/2009 6:25:08 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I am not taking any position on the names she did or didn’t use, except to note that the photostatted version of her UW registration shows here as SADO. I really don’t want to hazard what her legal name was or when she did or didn’t use Obama on documents, official or other.

Also, given the times, there were much fewer proscriptions about the use of legal names for bills and the like. There were few places that would actually check IDs to verify legal names and there were many opportunities to forge such documents (e.g., Have you ever looked at your Social Security card? ) If she registered as SADO at the UW, that doesn’t not convince me that it is her legal name. Given the lack of any marriage announcements and the fact that they spent most of their times in different physical locations, I tend to suspect that there was never a marriage.

However, divorce courts do not require marriage certificates, at least in Hawaii. Since the major goal of a divorce proceeding is to provide for the welfare of the children, the issue of whether the marriage exists is less important than the need to provide support to the child.


8,706 posted on 08/11/2009 6:33:15 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: afraidfortherepublic

In case you change your mind or if any one else wants to know, the following link goes to a page that wants to sell a book on the topic but it’s worth checking out for the short and sweet explanation of “Dual Citizenship O.K. for Americans”, “Why You May Need It”, “International Tax Grabs” and “Safety Factor” relative to having dual cit. and the ability to have 2 passports.

http://baumanblog.sovereignsociety.com/2009/07/dual-citizenship-is-it-for-you.html

This page does not cover when the laws changed due to the SCOTUS case.

The book is supposedly already a best seller and it may get more popular if Obamacare passes with its alarming reference to the fed gov’t. having access to participants bank accounts, including allowing them to make “elective withdrawals.” What a bunch of thieves.


8,707 posted on 08/11/2009 6:34:30 PM PDT by Natural Born 54
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To: little jeremiah
jeremiah,

you are so very welcome. I am happy to see you are keeping an open mind and extremely welcome to learning the truth of our history.

Stick with us and you will never again be led astray.

8,708 posted on 08/11/2009 6:36:57 PM PDT by patlin
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To: MHGinTN

WOW............... What a great article.


8,709 posted on 08/11/2009 6:38:42 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: Fractal Trader
I haven't seen much reference to Obama JR's presence at Harvard, either, in '89-'91, as well as '92 when he supposedly taught there before being married to Michele, by Rev. Wright, in Oct 91.

Obama JR got parking tickets from the Cambridge Police (how ironic), and there's an AP interview that took place in April (or so) 1991. But there are entire swaths of time when he doesn't even appear to be present at Harvard (or Columbia for that matter).

It's almost as if he were in a Foreign Exchange Program and not present at Harvard ...

8,710 posted on 08/11/2009 6:38:44 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2
It's almost as if he were in a Foreign Exchange Program and not present at Harvard ...

I knew a woman who graduated from HLS in the same class as BHO. She got married and spent some of her final years finishing up at Columbia.

BHO's classmates to remember his presence on the campus at least some of the time. He was certainly present for the Harvard Law Review, though he -- shock -- didn't actually publish anything except for, perhaps, a minor comment related to abortion,

I have no doubt he spent a lot of his time speechifying, but am reasonably confident that he was in Cambridge, in class, most of the time, at least for the first two years (Attendance and effort in third year courses can be sketchy). He did, in fact graduate, but his Magna Cum Laude degree seems basically impossible according to what his classmates had said.

8,711 posted on 08/11/2009 6:52:21 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: hoosiermama

Any way it was possible that she just picked up where she left off when she returned to the states? A U.S. passport is good for 10 years and she was only gone from ‘67 to ‘72. She could have had a mailing address at her mother’s (mom covered for her and Barry) when in Indonesia. I assume the Indonesian government would not have considered it necessary to write a letter to the U.S. (State Dept.?) to tell them that one of their citizens just forfeited her U.S. citizenship. Since there were no income statements going to the I.R.S., maybe her absence was never noted officially. There of course could be something of which I am not aware that blows this theory out of the water.


8,712 posted on 08/11/2009 6:55:25 PM PDT by Natural Born 54
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To: hoosiermama

IMO Dreams was written to fill in the spaces created when true informaton was scrubbed.
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I agree with you completely. That was the only reason for Dreams. Anyone that has read it can see that. I refused to pay for a new one that would give him any $$, so I bought a used one on Ebay. I highlighted every single sentence, paragraph or page that I found *fishy*.


8,713 posted on 08/11/2009 7:06:01 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

No fruit is better than mangoes. I could live on them!


8,714 posted on 08/11/2009 7:12:09 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: BP2

IF Barack was still in Kenya if he and Ann took a boat ride there in Feb-Mar 1961, and Ann decided to leave once she was permitted to do so after the baby was born, that could explain this part of the story about a possible ship-ride to Kenya, as well as a flight back to Washington state three weeks after Obama JR’s birth (perhaps via Hawaii en route to file a Kenyan BC).
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Where was Sr. that spring, summer and fall prior to the birth? Was he mia? There are no records of him attending the UofH?


8,715 posted on 08/11/2009 7:25:38 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: Natural Born 54

children under 16 with their own passport is valid for 5 years in the 60’s a child under about 8 years of age could be put on their mothers passport or could have their own,


8,716 posted on 08/11/2009 7:29:21 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

and a good thought, I’ve often thought the same thing. But when Obama was in school in Hawaii, his name on things was Obama. However, I don’t know if anyone actually saw those yearbooks in person. I suppose it’s possible that Sr. never knew he used the name Obama but I’m more inclined to believe he as paid off to allow the use of the name. I still think FMD is the real father and Sr. covered for him.


8,717 posted on 08/11/2009 7:29:54 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: mojitojoe

I have not seen the results of a FOIA request for Barack Sr’s school records, that might be something to do!


8,718 posted on 08/11/2009 7:31:19 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Fractal Trader; Fred Nerks; BP2

Just had a thought SDO had been accepted to both Washington U and Chicago, before going to HI. That acceptance and consiquence registration would be in her maiden same: SAD.
I remember when I got married 1970, while in grad school, it took at least the second terms before the records were completely changed. We didn’t have the computers in ‘61 we have now. It took much longer to change all the individual records.


8,719 posted on 08/11/2009 7:31:28 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Natural Born 54

Even Registered Aliens (Green Card) can be gone for some time..

When I came here in 1971 I could be out of the country for long stretches as long as I returned before a 12 month period was up...


8,720 posted on 08/11/2009 7:34:27 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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