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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: RummyChick

You are a smart aleck; aren’t you? Why don’t you take your toxic comments somewhere else. No one wants to listen to someone who obviously is a child.


5,381 posted on 08/03/2009 10:58:05 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Salamander

*whimper*

Never fear, SaraJohnson is here! LOLz!

I have straightened out at least five folks on the trail of the mysterious Salamander document! It’s you and me against the masses, Salamander! We will overcome the attack on just one innocent Salamander action done to help another! LOLz!!! It is never going to stop! It is like a pull my finger joke amoung older brothers!


5,382 posted on 08/03/2009 10:58:45 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: autumnraine

No, the divorce doesn’t make the marriage legal. If that were so, lying bigamists could marry all they want..get a divorce..and say..see there..the marriage was legal all along.

They have tried a different tactic along the same vein.

When courts bring up Bigamy...some have tried to claim the marriage was never valid so they can’t be prosecuted. MOre involved than that but that is the bottom line. Courts don’t go for it.

There it a putative spouse doctrine that some states recognize that help protect the spouse when it comes to dividing assets.

The UK law has something similiar along the line of protecting children when it comes to assets. I think it was a 1986 law ..but that could be way off...I dont really remember.

You have to recognize the basic problem and then go find ways to address it.

So far, just about everyone here has ignored this issue. Recognize it and find some law to argue for your side.

One way is that BC. If valid...I would be using it as proof they were married in a customary marriage in Kenya since Kenya didn’t recognize statutory mixed with customary marriages.

Obama wouldn’t be a US citizen in that case.


5,383 posted on 08/03/2009 10:58:57 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: txoilman
A NBC is a person that is born on American soil to parents that are U.S. citizens.

Wrong. This tells you who is a citizen at birth (natural born citizen): http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html. There is no definition of "natural born" in the Constitution, so you are in error when you assume the parents had to be citizens. In fact, under English common law, which was what was in use in the colonies, the place of birth ALONE determined citizenship. We didn't adopt a new system. We simply continued doing what we had done before independence, under England.

5,384 posted on 08/03/2009 10:59:26 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: autumnraine
Neil also said, in that same article, that he visited BO Sr. in Kenya (!) and said he never asked about Ann and Barry.

Odd how tight everyone is - Abercrombie/Obamas, Ann Soetero/Geithner's dad - yet how close-lipped they all are now.

Must have gone to the Hillary Clinton ("I don't recall...") School of Government.

5,385 posted on 08/03/2009 11:00:08 AM PDT by Prince of Space ("I think the mistake a lot of us make is thinking the court-appointed psychiatrist is our friend")
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To: autumnraine

I noticed Orly Taitz has a twitter account.

http://twitter.com/orlytaitz

However I see nothing on it. I’m no twitter expert, in fact I know nothing about it, so can someone figure out when this account was started? Did she start it just before she left so she can update us on what’s going on in the UK about all this?


5,386 posted on 08/03/2009 11:00:36 AM PDT by bergmeid
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To: autumnraine

He asked if she had a SSN under the married name. I answered what name she died under in terms of the SSN.

that is all.


5,387 posted on 08/03/2009 11:01:12 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

There was no legal marraige to make this LEGAL marraige a bigamist marraige! He was married by tribal tradition. The British government did not recognize TRIBAL marraiges.

You have NO evidence that he was already LEGALLY married to go and summarily dismiss this marraige to Ann Dunham as VOID.


5,388 posted on 08/03/2009 11:01:12 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: CedarDave
Now if there was a change in the law from 1961 to present, I wonder what actions a person would have to take to make his citizenship retroactive to birth?? His parents were married, so he cannot do anything. That retro law applies to OUT OF WEDLOCK births overseas.
5,389 posted on 08/03/2009 11:01:56 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: RummyChick

“No, the divorce doesn’t make the marriage legal. If that were so, lying bigamists could marry all they want..get a divorce..and say..see there..the marriage was legal all along.”

Yes, but here is the ringer in THIS situation, where is any documentation that he was married PREVIOUSLY to his marraige to Ann Dunham?


5,390 posted on 08/03/2009 11:04:30 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: nathanbedford

I agree with all your points. I will do some thinking on this. If there are any other possibilities I will post back to you. Very logical and well said. Thanks for the post.


5,391 posted on 08/03/2009 11:05:58 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Rex001

I cannot read your wall of text.

I listed the case.
Elg.

Like it or not..it defines natural born citizen as more than born on US soil to US parents.


5,392 posted on 08/03/2009 11:08:23 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: savedbygrace

Thanks for reminding me to look at the filing. It looks like Orly is taking the appropriate path to discovery.


5,393 posted on 08/03/2009 11:09:34 AM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: bgill

I found the connection!

http://www.lifespringinternational.org/newsupdate_april_06.htm
Go clear to the bottom to see:
“In the past year we have had teams visit King’s School from Bethel Church in Royston, Yorks., the Assembly of God church in Chesterfield, and Abington Christian Centre in Northampton.”

An Eric Lavender is one of the leaders of the Abington Christian Centre. He’s the one in the middle.
http://www.accentre.org.uk/photos.php?pgid=3
It is very likely that he is the person pictured in the 2004 newsletter.


5,394 posted on 08/03/2009 11:10:39 AM PDT by edweena
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To: nathanbedford

Al Hunt probably did that,...if he is still there...


5,395 posted on 08/03/2009 11:12:03 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Keep scrolling.

Marriage was Void Ab Initio


5,396 posted on 08/03/2009 11:13:48 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Fred Nerks
We need a thread exclusively for info and speculation on Hussein's parentage.

To me, this is most interesting...who really was his father?

5,397 posted on 08/03/2009 11:15:00 AM PDT by roses of sharon (It is not actual suffering but a taste of better things which excites people to revolt: Hoffer)
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To: autumnraine
You are crazy! Now just read this and you will become uncrazy!

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship By a Child Born Abroad

5,398 posted on 08/03/2009 11:15:05 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: DMZFrank

Excellent post. Thank you.


5,399 posted on 08/03/2009 11:15:59 AM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: autumnraine; Technical Editor
Oh, and that law is irrelevent since he was not born to a couple ‘out of wedlock’. Legal documents (divorce decree) show a marraige in Feb of 1961.

Got it. Details (sigh).

5,400 posted on 08/03/2009 11:17:08 AM PDT by CedarDave
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