Gay Parents Line Up For White House Easter Egg Roll Tickets

Associated Press ^ | 4-13-2006 | Associated Press

[WildPlum]

WASHINGTON -- Hundreds of gay and lesbian parents hoping to take their families to the annual White House Easter Egg Roll plan to start lining up Friday evening to make sure they get tickets for the Monday event.

Thousands of tickets — an estimated 16,000 last year — are given away on a first-come-first-come basis beginning at 7:30 a.m. Saturday.

National Park Service officials said Wednesday that children of all ages may attend as long as there is at least one child 7 years old or younger, and no more than two adults per group.

First lady Laura Bush's office issued a statement saying all families are welcome to attend.

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[Antoninus]

I'll bet they didn't consider that this may cause the egg roll to be cancelled.

I'll bet they did. This is about two things:

1.) "Look at us! Look at us! Look at us!"

2.) "We are everywhere. You can't have any event without us being there. And not only being there, we're going to act out and you're going to sit there and take it or else your event will have to be cancelled."

[sinkspur]

I'll bet they didn't consider that this may cause the egg roll to be cancelled.

A decades-long tradition is not going to be cancelled by this president because kids are having fun while people who aren't even in attendance at the event are obsessed with those who do.

[sinkspur]

What part of "event for kids" don't you understand?

The part where certain parents are obsessed with the other kids' parents.

[cyborg]

You never know in this day and age of post 9-11. Then again you may be right since Bush won't be there long.

[lentulusgracchus]

I can't seem to find a single reference in anything Moynihan or Krauthammer said that mentions homosexuality.

Red herring. They both mentioned "deviancy" in the quote. You need a road map to put "deviancy" and "homosexuality" in the same room?

Or are you going to argue here and now that homosexuality is not deviant?

In the face of the mathematics and 5,000 years of human experience with deviant sexuality? Try me.

Would you point out where Moynihan or Krauthammer mentions homosexuals in reference to deviance?

Homework assignment as part of the fast shuffle. Keep trying to deflect the point, Sinky. I've still got you.

Nevertheless, here is Krauthammer:

But now that overt racial actions have been criminalized and are routinely punished, the threshold for deviancy has been ratcheted up. The project now is to identify prejudiced thinking, instincts, anecdotes, attitudes.

The great arena for this project is the American academy. The proliferation of speech codes on campuses, restrained only by their obvious unconstitutionality, was an attempt by universities to curtail speech that may cause offense to groups designated for special protection. A University of Michigan student, for example, offers the opinion in class that homosexuality is an illness, and finds himself hauled before a formal university hearing on charges of harassing students on the basis of sexual orientation.

The irony here is quite complete. It used to be that homosexuality was considered deviant. But now that it has been declared a simple lifestyle choice, those who are not current with the new definitions, and have the misfortune to say so in public, find themselves suspected of deviancy.

-- Ibid., p. 24.

So there is your quote. What's your next objection, or will you now try to change the subject again and, as you announced with a harrumph ever so many posts ago, that you are now ready to "move on"? Funny how that favorite phrase of the Clintonistas keeps issuing forth from your keyboard.

[Torie]

Labeling homosexuality as an "illness," with the intent to strip away rights of the "ill" that others enjoy, may not be deviant, but that agenda is one to which I dissent, and that one IS a loser politically, and more and more so, as time goes on, but whether it is a winner or loser politically, is of small moment to me. It is wrong on my planet, and the wrong must be resisted, win, lose or draw, in order for me to be comfortable in my own skin, and with my own conscience.

[Antoninus]

The part where certain parents are obsessed with the other kids' parents.

My kids will not be allowed anywhere near people who engage in and promote homosexual acts as long as I am their father and am aware of it. If that's "obsession" then so be it.

[sinkspur]

My kids will not be allowed anywhere near people who engage in and promote homosexual acts as long as I am their father and am aware of it.

How did I already know that?

[Antoninus]

Labeling homosexuality as an "illness," with the intent to strip away rights of the "ill" that others enjoy, may not be deviant, but that agenda is one to which I dissent, and that one IS a loser politically, and more and more so, as time goes on, but whether it is a winner or loser politically, is of small moment to me.

That is one long and obscure sentence.

People who are "ill" need treatment, not enabling of the bad behaviors stemming from the illness. One of the most cruel (and completely politically motivated) things the APAs of this world ever did was to de-list homosexuality from the DSM. So many more people would be able to get help now instead of destroying themselves--all the while listening to crank shrinks telling them that "repressing" their desire to commit deviant sex acts is more harmful than acting on their desires.

Hey, it's made for an endless stream of business for the mental health professions. I've never met a person with homosexual inclinations who wasn't seeing a shrink.

[Antoninus]

How did I already know that?

Probably because you know I'm a practicing Catholic and I love my children.

[little jeremiah]

What I wonder is why those of us who are concerned about the promotion of homosexuality are "obsessed with what other people do" while homosexual promoters are not obsessed? Or people like sink are not obsessed with people like us?

I don't get it.

[tryon1ja]

I'm so disappointed in the Bushes

What would you have them do? Play into the hands of those who want a scene to be made?

The event is for the kids. Let all the kids have their day. Who cares, for this event, who they call mom or dad or whatever?

[sinkspur]

Probably because you know I'm a practicing Catholic and I love my children.

Let's end this on a high note.

Happy Easter to you and your family!

[little jeremiah]

Great quote.


Sink, what do you have to say about Krauthammer's statements?

[lentulusgracchus]

[cyborg] I'll bet they didn't consider that this may cause the egg roll to be cancelled.

I think the article shows that so far, George and Laura are going to go ahead and have the event.

Otherwise, I don't care what gay people do except leave the institution of marriage alone. It's in bad enough shape already.

Well, this is part of their propaganda campaign for gay marriage and all that. Unless they dump the leis and decide to go low-profile, I don't see how you can get around that.

What has little jeremiah and scripter and me all lit up is that, beyond Andrew Sullivan and his position, there is a large contingent of gays actively interested in deconstructing "heteronormality" right down to the ground -- which would include abolishing marriage altogether, or at least society's considerable support for it. I'm single myself, but I am glad society supports marriage, and I'm glad my own parents and my sister's family continue to benefit from that support.

Many gays support expanding the definition of marriage basically to weaken it. Which faction is running the gay movement right now? I don't know -- but society has to do better than simply to react to what they are doing, and must assert ourselves and our right and power to define these things despite their discontent and agitation. That's one of my problems with what they are doing.

Unfortunately, it looks like they have a con-law winner in Article IV of the Constitution, and will be able to use the Supreme Court to ram their wishes down the rest of society's throat by decree, as if we lived in a sultanate instead of a representative republic.

Right now our best chance to avoid that happening looks like it would have to be a Supreme Court finding that Massachusetts's redefinition of marriage is legally or constitutionally defective, because of the high-handed actions of their Supreme Judicial Court and its chief justice (who did not keep the gay orgs pleading in her court at arm's length, by the way), and their maneuvers calculated to prevent the wishes of the People of Massachusetts from being made new law before the SJC decreed theirs.

The rub there is that a majority of the U.S. Supreme Court has clearly signalled their readiness, in the Lawrence decision that overturned all recent case law, to issue a sweeping new ukase similar to Brown vs. Board and Roe vs. Wade. IOW, "they're at it again!"

[Antoninus]

Happy Easter to you and your family!

I'm down with that. Buona Pasqua!

[sinkspur]

Or people like sink are not obsessed with people like us?

I'm not obsessed with you. In fact, I go out of my way to stay off gay threads to avoid you.

But, this one was too juicy to pass up and, sure enough, you came along, just like clockwork.

Do you ever post to threads on things like, oh, global warming, or are you just a homosexual-thread kinda guy?

[sinkspur]

Sink, what do you have to say about Krauthammer's statements? /i>

Nothing.

[little jeremiah]

Well, when I was doing the Moral Absolutes Ping list as well as the Homosexual Agenda Ping list, I frequented many a topic.

But I am very busy currently, and don't comment much at all about anything.

Global warming bores me so I never comment on it.

[Torie]

Whatever you call it, my impression is that it is largely incurable. Yes, the gay life style, incurs many costs, medical, and emotional, for so many. Those with an incurable illness, to use that term for purposes of argument, should not be demonized, and deprived of equal rights, or frankly marginalized. They should be assisted by their neighbors to achieve the good life, to the extent it can be, given the loadstar which is their essential being, just like any other neighbor. So says this near atheist.

I try to live my life that way, in the same way that I try to engage each and every poster on this site, with respect, and in constructive dialog, to the best of my ability. Do I fail in that sometimes? You bet! Sometimes temptation, gets the better of me, and I get out the knife and twist it, generally with an effort to do it with some subtlety, because it gives me pleasure. Whatever.