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Labeling homosexuality as an "illness," with the intent to strip away rights of the "ill" that others enjoy, may not be deviant, but that agenda is one to which I dissent, and that one IS a loser politically, and more and more so, as time goes on, but whether it is a winner or loser politically, is of small moment to me. It is wrong on my planet, and the wrong must be resisted, win, lose or draw, in order for me to be comfortable in my own skin, and with my own conscience.

Labeling homosexuality as an "illness," with the intent to strip away rights of the "ill" that others enjoy, may not be deviant, but that agenda is one to which I dissent, and that one IS a loser politically, and more and more so, as time goes on, but whether it is a winner or loser politically, is of small moment to me.

That is one long and obscure sentence.

People who are "ill" need treatment, not enabling of the bad behaviors stemming from the illness. One of the most cruel (and completely politically motivated) things the APAs of this world ever did was to de-list homosexuality from the DSM. So many more people would be able to get help now instead of destroying themselves--all the while listening to crank shrinks telling them that "repressing" their desire to commit deviant sex acts is more harmful than acting on their desires.

Hey, it's made for an endless stream of business for the mental health professions. I've never met a person with homosexual inclinations who wasn't seeing a shrink.

Labeling homosexuality as an "illness," with the intent to strip away rights of the "ill" that others enjoy, may not be deviant, but that agenda is one to which I dissent,.....

You are insistent that calling sexual deviancy an illness is political. It isn't; it's objective.

Homosexuality is objectively disordered, a kind of paraphilia. It just isn't natural, and is ergo disordered.

Gay activists mobbed the leadership of the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association in 1972 and 1973 and achieved a political success in having homosexuality removed from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, the standard reference of the mental health professions.

Just because they changed the text, doesn't mean they improved it. They obfuscated, they politicked, they lied. They bent the science, and they've placed guard-dog organizations stacked with their own hand-picked people to watch over and defend the definitions they debauched in 1973.

And you may not want homosexual people mistreated or their rights stripped away -- that's fine, nobody's talking about doing that, but it won't do to have them hanging around schools and Scouting and church groups, anywhere that boys gather in groups. These organizations have had persistent problems with homosexual men, and if you cater for the gays and make trouble for people who want to keep some sort of social hygienic structures in place to protect youth from adult sexual predators, then you are adding to the country's social problems.