Posted on 12/23/2025 9:56:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv
Wayne May tells the story of two 4000 year old Cuneiform Tablets made from the same era found in America. One by Native American Chief Joseph and the other by a woman in Georgia who found it while gardening.
Chief Joseph and his 4000 year old tablet | 3:09
Hidden in the Heartland | 5.76K subscribers | 234,927 views | Premiered December 17, 2025
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They did. They came from Asia (mostly) across the ‘bering land bridge’. Mostly Paleosiberian.
With DNA advances, it is no longer as much as a guess as it used to be. The WIKI claims it grew from an initial population of 70 peoples.
Occasional visits from China, Vikings, etc. may have caused some minor additions.
They claim three main immigration waves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_the_Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas
And he dammed up the Columbia River.
There is a third possibility, that the Sumerians brought theor own breedomg stock with them and had their own herds whichi later did not survive their absence.
I bet there is archaeological evidence of Sumerian settlement somewhere in America.Or else we would not have these cuneiform receipts.
Ground scanning radar anyone?
Read Barry Fell’s books. I’m not claiming they’re right just claiming they’re interesting. - America B.C. is one.
I once had a linguistics class in Mexico, we studied some Nahuatl (Aztec language), for final class someone brought Pulque, an Aztec style beer I think from the same plants as provide juice for Mescal and Tequila. We got pleasantly sloshed and emoted in our new Nahuatl vocabulary. English has prefixes and suffixes, but Nahuatl also has infixes.
Nicneki nicua Tlaxcali. Nicneki nitlaxcalcua. Both mean “I want to eat tortillas.” In this case Tlaxcali is also the name of the neighboring tribe that allied with the Spaniards to conquer the Aztec capital. The Tlaxcalans did not like being eaten by Aztecs after they lost their battles and were sacrificed to the Gods by the Aztec priests and eaten by the people.
They could have identified native mountain goats as goats as we did and still do have mountain goats. I don’t know what they would have called a sheep, unless the hairy buffalo.
When the Pilgrams came to Mass Bay, they found abandoned Indian villages. Then a young Indian helped them learn the classic corn, beans, squash agriculture with a fish in the hole for fertilizer. Saved their lives, they found that many Indians had died from disease, probably smallpox from Vikings.
The split between Africa and South America is well examined and proven science. But the gradual split happened millions of years before apes and hominids had evolved. Monkeys are also classified as New and Old World monkeys, and have been evolving in different directions for many millions of years.
There are no doubt some theories are correct, while many others may be somewhat correct.
But without question, in my mind, all that we know were provided by an intelligent entity. Nothing that we know happened by happenstance as too many people now may accept.
Life is interesting, yet it still remains a struggle. No one escpes struggles. It just varies by degrees.
Poor people ovrcome, while rich people sink. We are not all created equal, accept perhaps in the eyes of the creator or perhaps just in the imagination of some humans.
Life is rewarding, as well as, frustrating for us all.
Below is AI information on the split.
“It became impossible for apes and hominids to travel from Africa to South America by land after the continents separated around 100-130 million years ago, but tiny primates did cross the widening Atlantic via vegetation rafts (rafting) about 35-40 million years ago, leading to unique South American monkeys, though true apes and hominids never established there, making their presence impossible after significant ocean separation and primate divergence, roughly 30-40 million years ago when New World monkeys evolved separately.
Key Timeline & Separation:
*~130 Million Years Ago (MYA): Africa and South America began drifting apart, starting the separation of the continents.
* ~60 MYA: The North Atlantic started opening, isolating the Americas from Eurasia.
* ~40-50 MYA: Early primates (ancestors of monkeys, apes, and humans) arrived in Africa, likely by rafting from Asia, while Africa was still an “island continent”.
* ~35-40 MYA: The first monkeys (parapithecids) successfully rafted from Africa to South America, establishing the New World monkey lineage (platyrrhines).
Why it became impossible for hominids:
* The Atlantic Widened: By the time apes (hominoids) and later hominids evolved in Africa, the ocean barrier between the continents was too vast for land migration.
* Separate Evolutions: The ancestors of apes (including humans) and New World monkeys split much earlier, with the latter evolving uniquely in South America after that initial rafting event.
* Hominid Niche: Hominids (like Australopithecus, Homo) evolved much later (millions of years after the major separation) and were adapted to African environments, never developing the ability to cross vast oceans to reach the Americas.
—In essence, the window for any large primate migration closed when the continents separated, but a small, hardy group of monkey ancestors managed one last “miraculous” trip, while apes and humans remained in the Old World.”
Here is what AI describes as living in the Precambrian a billion years ago:
“A billion years ago, Earth was dominated by microscopic life like bacteria, archaea, and single-celled eukaryotes (protists), with evidence suggesting the emergence of simple, soft-bodied multicellular organisms, possibly early sponges or choanoflagellates, but no complex animals, plants, or fungi existed; the world was largely microbial before the rise of complex life much later.
Dominant Life Forms (Microscopic):
* Bacteria & Archaea: These single-celled organisms were the planet’s primary inhabitants, forming complex mats (stromatolites) that trapped sediment.
* Eukaryotes (Protists): Single-celled eukaryotes, the precursors to plants, animals, and fungi, were also present, with some potentially forming simple multicellular clusters.
Emerging Multicellularity (Early Stages):
* Simple Multicellularity: Scientists have found evidence of simple, multicellular eukaryotes from around this time, potentially early forms of sponges or cnidarians (like jellyfish relatives).
* Ancestor to Animals: Our own ancestors were likely single-celled eukaryotes, with choanoflagellates being modern relatives that resemble the hypothetical ancestors of animals.
What Was Missing?:
* No Complex Animals: No animals like fish, insects, or mammals existed.
* No Land Plants or Fungi: The familiar complex land life we know today hadn’t evolved yet.
* In essence, a billion years ago was a time of microbial dominance, with the very first steps towards multicellularity just beginning in the oceans.”
About 1/2 billion years ago is when the first multicellular organisms began to show up in the fossil record. This was the age called the Cambrian. All the periods of different life forms have a name and a probable named span of years. The dinosaur ages ended when a giant asteroid hit the earth, killing and making it impossible for them to continue to reproduce. This was the end of the Cretaceous around 65 million years ago. Tiny little mammals like shrews and mice had been waiting their chance to evolve as larger creatures, and today there is us. Birds are the only remnants of dinosaur forms that survived that catastrophe.
“Hidden in the Heartland” seems to be fake history videos. What’s next, Bigfoot and Barbie get married videos?
It’s not invented content in this case, like the flood of WWII vids that have appeared in multiple YT channels simultaneously.
And that marrying Barbie comment really hits close to home, I fell for that scam when I visited DC in my college years, and a bunch of us had a ceremony with that lifesize Barbie in one of the museums up there. One of my fellow young boneheads knew someone on the security detail. I blame the 1970s.
I have no argument whatsoever with what you say. I'm just saying that there is probably, without much question, that there are things that humans are not aware of anymore because the knowledge is no longer actually known to those in these times.
We really have no idea for example, when man first walked this planet. Nor do we know if these humans had progressed until a catastiophic even occurred that so thinned out the numbers, that humans lost a lot of its progression, because survival became important, and the knowledge was not able to be preserved.
It's still interesting, that things we thought we knew, all of a sudden we come across something that throws a wrench in the thinking that had been accepted, and is now in question.
For a good example, how is it that pyramids were built using only human labor because no heavy equipment was present? How is it that serveral variations of pyramids were built in ladmasses that were sepaated by large bodies of water, and they all seemed to begin around 5,000 years ago?
Was travel across the oceans occuring far longer then we currently believe? Were th Americas known by certain societies long before Columbus "discovered" America?
My point is that there are a lot of things we do not know.
what exactly has come & gone in the past that we beieve are modern accimplishments, that might have existed in some form or fashion before. That for some reason ceased to be passed along, and eventually were lost to ensuing generations.
Thus, there is a lot about life that still remains a mystery, and we seem to discover that the mystery even exists by accident that upsets that which was accepted as the reality.
Anyway, it has been an interesting conversation. There are no answers, only suppositions of which some are correct & some are perhaps partially correct, while still others are not correct at all. But we know not which are which. So while interesting, it is also a fruitless exercise, because the likelihood of determining provable truth is unlikely or perhaps provable truth may not be lasting truth, because of unknows that had remained hidden. All we really know is that we disproved an accepted belief, and that has happened before as well. Have a blessed day. 😁🤙
Life is risky. Some things you just never know, for sure for sure. At least that much is certain. Poor Descartes. Didn’t like that at all.
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