Based on the public information available, Nicole Shanahan is not a “natural born Citizen” (NBC) of the United States since her Chinese immigrant mother was not a U.S. Citizen when Nicole Shanahan was born in CA. In addition to being born in the USA, to be a "natural born Citizen" the person must also be born to U.S. Citizen parents, both of whom are U.S. Citizens (either born or naturalized Citizens - but both parents must be a Citizen) when their child is born in the USA. “natural born Citizen” birth status insures that the person is born with the strongest allegiance to the USA at birth and no foreign allegiance(s), and/or dual-Citizen entanglements by the circumstances of their birth, which occurs when a child is who is born in the USA is born to a foreign national parent or parents.
The is what the founders and framers intended as is detailed in John Jay's letter to George Washington in the summer of 1787 during the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia PA. They did not want any future Commander in Chief of our military, once the founding generation was gone, who was born with foreign influence on them. This was further emphasized in the Federalist Papers that the founders and framers had great concern that persons born with foreign influence and allegiance requirements on them would ever in the future be allowed to gain access to the highest office, the President and Commander in Chief. So the put that NBC restriction clause into Article II Section 1 Clause 5, the presidential eligibility clause, for future Presidents and Commanders in Chief of our military. And later that requirement was added for the VP too via the 14th Amendment. For more on the NBC requirement see: http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/naturalborncitizen/TheWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyandHowofNBC-WhitePaper.pdf
Steve Dunham wasn’t.
To the people that matter, she is eligible.
She has zero percent chance of winning.
This argument is a retarded distraction.
Stop this pointless shyt.
Unfortunately for you, if we go by these "rules", Donald J. Trump's OWN siblings ain't "Natural Born Citizens", since their mother was from Scotland and STILL a citizen of the UK and NOT a citizen of the United States at the time of their birth. I guess Donald should have promptly stripped his "non natural born citizen" sister of career as a federal judge.
Natural born meaning no “C” section kids can be elected? /sarc
Does it really matter? She has about as much chance of becoming VP, as anyone reading this thread.
Matters not
To CDR.....I repeat your article for those who skipped past your first posting!(p)
Here we go again. Another Kamala Harris. The politicos want to run another constitutionally ineligible person for one of the highest offices in our government.
Based on the public information available, Nicole Shanahan is not a “natural born Citizen” (NBC) of the United States since her Chinese immigrant mother was not a U.S. Citizen when Nicole Shanahan was born in CA. In addition to being born in the USA, to be a “natural born Citizen” the person must also be born to U.S. Citizen parents, both of whom are U.S. Citizens (either born or naturalized Citizens - but both parents must be a Citizen) when their child is born in the USA. “natural born Citizen” birth status insures that the person is born with the strongest allegiance to the USA at birth and no foreign allegiance(s), and/or dual-Citizen entanglements by the circumstances of their birth, which occurs when a child is who is born in the USA is born to a foreign national parent or parents.
The is what the founders and framers intended as is detailed in John Jay’s letter to George Washington in the summer of 1787 during the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia PA. They did not want any future Commander in Chief of our military, once the founding generation was gone, who was born with foreign influence on them. This was further emphasized in the Federalist Papers that the founders and framers had great concern that persons born with foreign influence and allegiance requirements on them would ever in the future be allowed to gain access to the highest office, the President and Commander in Chief. So the put that NBC restriction clause into Article II Section 1 Clause 5, the presidential eligibility clause, for future Presidents and Commanders in Chief of our military. And later that requirement was added for the VP too via the 14th Amendment. For more on the NBC requirement see: http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/naturalborncitizen/TheWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyandHowofNBC-WhitePaper.pdf
How many candidates in recent years have had this question? Is it really that hard to find natural born citizens now? I know we’ve had massive immigration since 1965. Maybe this is a sign of it.
That ship has sailed. Regardless of what some people want natural born citizen to mean, it NOW means the same thing as birthright citizen.
I wish you NBC people would go away.
You embarrass this site.
Incorrect.
Guess we'll go ahead and dig this post back out of the mothballs again
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Here’s some information to shed light on what you stated from another thread where these issues were discussed:
If the Framers did not intend for the phrase they put into the Constitution - Natural Born Citizen - to mean what it meant at the time they wrote it, they would have written out a definition into the Constitution to redefine it. Since they did not, we can only assume it meant what the phrase meant when they wrote it out - the English common law definition - those born within the borders of the realm are naturally born citizens. There are a number of court cases where it is defined in this manner with regard to those born with far looser connections to the United States than Marco Rubio, Chester Arthur, (or Kamala Harris). The first case where it seems this was dealt with by a court was Lynch vs. Clarke in New York over a dispute with who could inherit property - there was a law on the books stating that only a “U.S. Citizen” could inherit property, and the presiding judge (apparently in this court the judge was called a “Vice Chancellor”) made this declaration: “Suppose a person should be elected president who was native born, but of alien parents; could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the Constitution? I think not. The position would be decisive in his favor, that by the rule of the common law, in force when the Constitution was adopted, he is a citizen...Upon principle, therefore, I can entertain no doubt, but that by the law of the United States, every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his parents, is a natural born citizen. It is surprising that there has been no judicial decision upon this question.” In another case decided by the U.S. Supreme Court over the citizenship of a person born who was born to Chinese parents (it was illegal at that time for Chinese immigrants to become U.S. Citizens) it was declared that he was a natural born citizen by virtue of having been born in the United States, and Justice Field, who wrote the opinion, actually referenced the Lynch v. Clarke decision in the ruling of the Court: “After an exhaustive examination of the law, the Vice-Chancellor said that he entertained no doubt that every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his parents, was a natural-born citizen, and added that this was the general understanding of the legal profession, and the universal impression of the public mind.” This case was In re Look Tin Sing. Another U.S. Supreme Court case was United States v. Wong Kim Ark https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/169/649 dealing with the same issue of a child born to Chinese parents made the same ruling and also declared him to be a natural born citizen in the ruling by virtue of his right to citizenship by birth. All of those cases were in the 1800s.
There was a U.S. Supreme Court case in 1939 with the title Perkins v. Elg http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/307/325.html which dealt with the issue of a woman who was born in the U.S. to Swedish citizens who returned to Sweden with her when she was four years old. Her father was naturalized prior to this as a U.S. Citizen and held dual citizenship. She then came back to the U.S. and was admitted entry as a citizen at the age of 21. For whatever reason, her father later did away with his U.S. Citizenship status and the equivalent of the INS at the time declared she was to be deported. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled against this, finding she was a natural born U.S. Citizen by right of birth and even declared she was eligible to be President of the United States in the ruling. A past President, Chester Arthur, was born with an Irish father who was not yet naturalized as a U.S. Citizen, though his mother was born in Vermont where Arthur himself was born.
Detractors like to ignore all of information and court cases and instead rely totally on a case Minor v. Happersett - seeming to deliberately misquote the ruling - indeed, the justices specifically stated they were not making a finding of every scenario that constitutes a natural born citizen in their ruling: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [p168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. ***For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.***” Minor v. Happersett - full text of ruling https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/88/162
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You keep peddling this crap and no court in the country agrees with you. Heck, VATTEL didn’t agree with you! Vattel never used the phrase “Natural Born Citizen” - he used “natives” and “indigenes”, literally writing: “Les Naturels ou indigènes font ceux qui font nés dans le pays de Parens Citoyens.”
Under the standards used in 1787, the status of the mother is irrelevant. Only the father's citizenship matters.
Women, upon marriage to American men, were automatically American citizens.
Doesn’t matter. The ticket won’t win.
The Kennedy/Shanahan ticket could take away votes from Biden. How much remains to be seen, but I think the farther left they run, they better it is for Trump.
Nothing against the quadrennial “NBC” knitting circle, which seems like harmless fun. The number of US-born candidates tossed by the courts from a POTUS/VPOTUS ballot, however stands at zero. That number is not going to change.