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Nord Stream sabotage and hybrid war on Europe (Russians blew NS up and why)
Anders Puck Nielsen ^ | Oct 4, 2022 | Anders Puck Nielsen

Posted on 10/19/2022 11:08:15 PM PDT by dennisw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-0qJXyido

Nord Stream sabotage and hybrid war on Europe 123,200 views Oct 4, 2022

Anders Puck Nielsen 66K subscribers

Analysis of the Nord Stream pipeline sabotage. I use Kilcullen's theory about liminal warfare and prospect theory to analyse the operational design. This shows that Russia is the most likely suspect, because all other actors would have made different operational choices.

I then give some pretty depressing perspectives on how Russia might use hybrid warfare against Europe.

0:00 Intro 1:02 Model for hybrid warfare 1:51 Operational design of Nord Stream sabotage 3:05 Consequences of the attack 4:59 US, Poland and Ukraine 6:56 NGOs and climate activists 7:25 Russia 8:17 Who would take the risk? 8:42 Prospect theory 9:33 Russia likely to take risks 10:16 Blow up their own pipeline? 11:30 Hybrid war on Europe


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To: TennesseeProfessor

“In contrast, I am bewildered by conservatives passing around that Biden video as evidence the US blew it up.”

Me too. Such simplistic thinking in a deviousness run world. FReepers are ultra skeptics, but here they believe in Joe. “In Joe we trust.” “Cause he said so”


61 posted on 10/20/2022 3:37:08 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: MAGAthon; Widget Jr; dennisw; metmom; Zhang Fei; marcusmaximus; Roman_War_Criminal; ...

All -

🇺🇸 There is limited info which can be posted online, until it becomes evident the info has been dumped, de-classified, or leaked out (there’s some pun)

Mean time, “your killin me smalls” 😎

A cursory Open Source search reveals much more pertinent (and likely crucial ) information to the September NordStream incident than most are aware.

It looks like a lot below, but it isn’t, although most on FR won’t want to know the truth or actual baseline information, as itay well go against populism.

Most of the populist talking points now espoused by conservatives are not correct, regardless of outcome.



A Few NS 1 & 2 Baseline Historical Factors —

🔹️ Biden and Dems back Putin and NS-2, which results in a US Senate Fight.

Cruz and Republicans Fail to Stop Biden Greenlighting Putins NS-2

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/13/nord-stream-pipeline-russia-senate-vote/

⚔ The fraudulent and globally corrupt US puppet admin simultaneously shuts down US energy lines and development, and promptly enters into US Gas and Oil import contracts with both Russia and Iran, which did not end until the end of August 2022, with Russian energy tankers still waiting to be unloaded in the Port of Houston.

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🔹️ Russia ACTUALLY Begins Cutting Gas Supply to Europe in *July, 2021* —

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-20/how-nord-stream-became-so-important-in-europe-s-gas-war

Russia Stops All Gas Flow to NS1 By Mid July 2022 — Graph

http://country.eiu.com/article.aspx?articleid=782307861&Country=Italy&topic=Economy&subtopic=Fore_14


How much gas flowed through
NordStream 1 Per Year was Europe losing by mid Summer 2022 ?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1117148/natural-gas-transported-through-nord-stream-pipeline/

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🔹️ Who Really Financed and Owns Majority of NordStream 1 and 2 ?

Formal Order of Real Percentage Ownership:

#1. Europe (litrrally collectively)
#2. Russia,
#3. US* (yes, you read correct)
#4. Japan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream

Europe knew Russian had to be allowed to claim 51% ownership, as the actual gas was derived from Russia, 🔹️AND keeping in line with 1991 Russian state required ownership and control of all domestic and foreign corporations, within the Russian Federation.

So a game of “rubbing the belly” was necessary.

🔹️ However, outside of Europe’s 49% percent DIRECT ownership in the Nord Stream complex, when actually identifying the breakdown of Russia’s 51% ownership in the Russian state Nord Stream incorporation, Russia’s 51% percent WAS/IS actually financed by loans and underwritten predominantly from EU and Swiss commercial and import/export banks, with *significant* American and Japanese commercial and investment interests in possession of near 25 -30% percent Western shareholder stake OF Russia’s 51% percent. (Some Western shareholders remain redacted). I don’t like Mictosofts wiki anything,,but the following link is just an easy overall “one stop”.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream

🔹️ More NordSteam Breakdown (not all western investments published) —

— Thirty percent of the financing was raised through equity provided by shareholders in proportion to their stakes in the project,

— 70 percent was obtained from external financing by banks.[82]

There were two tranches of fundraising.[83][84]

1. The first tranche, totaling €3.9 billion, includes a €3.1 billion, 16-year facility covered by export credit agencies and an €800 million, 10-year uncovered commercial loan to be serviced by earnings from the transportation contracts.

2. A further €1.6 billion is covered by French credit insurance company Euler Hermes,

3. €1 billion by German loan guarantee program UFK,

4. and €500 million by Italian export credit agency SACE SpA.

— Crédit Agricole is the documentation bank and bank facility agent.

— Société Générale is intercreditor agent, Sace facility agent, security trustee and model bank.

— Commerzbank is the Hermes facility agent, UniCredit is the UFK facility agent,

— Deutsche Bank is the account bank,

— Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation (Japan) is the technical and environmental bank.[82][83]

The financial advisers were Société Générale, Royal Bank of Scotland (ABN Amro), Dresdner Kleinwort(Commerzbank), and Unicredit.[85][86]

The legal adviser to Nord Stream was White & Case, and legal adviser for the lenders was Clifford Chance.

🔹️ Nord Stream 1 is operated by the special-purpose company Nord Stream AG, incorporated in Zug, Switzerland on 30 November 2005.

— Shareholders of the company are the Russian gas company Gazprom (51% of shares INCLUDES over 16.5 % derived from BANK OF NEW YORK MELLON)

— German companies Wintershall Dea and PEG Infrastruktur AG (E.ON) (both 15.5%)

— Dutch gas company Gasunie (9%)

— French gas company Engie (9%).[18][30]

🔹️The chairman of the shareholders’ committee is German ex-chancellor Gerhard Schröder, who also sat at head of GAZPROM

https://www.statista.com/topics/8440/nord-stream-2/#topicHeader__wrapper

🔹️ IN OTHER WORDS, (by actual significant margin) RUSSIA ACTUALLY DIDN’T OWN majority of NS 1 or 2, and didn’t underwrite almost anything.


As of December 31, 2021 //.August 12, 2022 —

🇺🇸 16.2 % of Gazprom is Owned by *American Depository Receipt (ADR) holders from Bank of New York Mellon in New York, which is significant more than just NS-1 and NS-2. .

https://www.statista.com/statistics/273267/shareholder-structure-of-gazprom/

Historically Even A Greater Stake —

24.6% of Gazprom Owned by ADR December 31, 2018

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Gazproms-shareholders-Gazprom-2018_fig2_332173013

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Who Really supplied NS-1 and NS-2 Engineering, Construction, Material, and the Actual Pipe ?

— Germany
— Finland
—.Japan
— Royal Dutch Shell
— France (ENGIE)
— Austria (OMV)
— Britain

There is a longer list, so this is just a general short list, which deals down into other large corporations who were actually involved in the project, including significantly Rolls Royce, from Great Britain.

https://cepa.org/article/who-pays-for-the-failed-nord-stream-2-european-taxpayers/

https://www.engie.com/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-09/press-release-nord-stream-2-project-20170424.pdf

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🔹️ On PAPER Russian Government Own’s 51% Share, Howevee, Europe largely financed NS-1 and NS-2, With EU Taxpayers Forced to Underwrite the Project —

https://amp-dw-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.dw.com/en/nord-stream-2-financing-takes-shape/a-38568823?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16654368898393&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dw.com%2Fen%2Fnord-stream-2-financing-takes-shape%2Fa-38568823

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The Military Angle

Remember this —

NS1 and NS2 are both paired and generally adjacent lines, until proximal to Bornholm, equaling a total of 4 lines.

— US Navy P-8A flew recon less than 3 hours after initial explosion -

October 07, 2022 04:27 PM
“At the time of the explosion, data from the flight showed a P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol and reconnaissance plane was at the time over the North Sea (under 3 hours from location of NS explosions).

The same plane flew as close as 15 miles from the reported site of the burst less than three hours later, at 2:44 a.m. GMT. U.S. officials claimed the plane was conducting reconnaissance at the time.” (Due to Atlantic MARCOM drawdown of surface and sub-surface assets sent to Portugal)

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/us-navy-flew-nord-stream-sabotage
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/exclusive-us-navy-jet-flew-across-baltic-hours-after-nord-stream-burst-2022-10-07/

Shortly after 2.1 Richter Scale explosive quakes, Demmark quickly dispatched an F-16 to generally observe the quake and gas line area, with it’s now infamous footage of the static methane escaping to the surface.

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🔹️ Other Notable Factors to Consider —

Consider Russia Completely Shut Down NS1 for “Maintenance” at End of August and Going Into September.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/new-russia-gas-halt-tighten-energy-screws-europe-2022-08-30/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-halts-nord-stream-gas-pipeline-ratcheting-up-pressure-on-europe-11661933607

🔹️ Notable video INTERVIEW of US Navy SEAL regarding NS and Baltic incident here —

https://youtu.be/GNQaQGzlZPo

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🔹️ Other Russian “Mirror” incident messaging and warnings here —

https://www.highnorthnews.com/en/nord-stream-pipeline-sabotage-mirrors-svalbard-cable-incident

⚔ As well, ANECDOTALLY 🕶, after a bit of inquiry, I was “accidentally tipper’d” that “Bluewater Sensors” had gone berserk at multiple points along the Norway/Denmark Gas Line within a couple hours of the explosions, as well as at a handful of Norwegian energy platforms.

As such, and because of the Atlantic MARCOM exercise, the US Navy P-8A Poseidon was already in the North Sea, and within 3 hours of the NS 1&2 Bornholm explosions at the time of the late stage night explosion’s.

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🔹️ More Relevant Russian Baltic Naval Activity —

🇳🇱 “...island of Bornholm.”

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2022/june/11848-two-russian-navy-s-corvettes-enter-danish-territorial-waters.html

We are also aware, Russia has used NordStream Line Asset Security and Protection as international justification for Russian Naval penetration, loitering and spying on Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Belgium, Poland, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway — Russia Secretly Mined the Gas Lines in Multiple Locations. Russia Routinely Threatens, Harrasses, Chases all would be observers along the gas line routes —

Un-officially, the following has already been dealt with in at least three instances

https://www.fpri.org/article/2022/04/baltic-sea-mining-as-an-extension-of-the-russian-gray-zone/

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🔹️ Then there was THIS SEQUENCE —

Russian Baltic Sea Naval Exercise June 2022 — https://youtu.be/S1NI1iOOixc

https://www.plenglish.com/news/2022/06/09/russian-baltic-fleet-launches-military-maneuvers/

🔹️ September 20, 2022

https://www.navaltoday.com/2022/09/20/russian-navys-baltic-fleet-ships-hunt-down-enemy-subs/

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2022/june/11866-russian-navy-grad-missile-ship-to-join-baltic-fleet-by-yearend.html

Earlier 2022 SEQUENCE—

Jan/Feb 2022

https://tass-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/tass.com/defense/1392417/amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16644485121374&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Ftass.com%2Fdefense%2F1392417

Russian Global Naval Exercise JAN 2022
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-hold-major-navy-drills-involving-all-its-fleets-2022-01-20/

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-hold-major-navy-drills-involving-all-its-fleets-2022-01-20/

Russian Belgorad Strategic Attack Sub
https://news.usni.org/2022/07/08/doomsday-submarine-armed-with-nuclear-torpedoes-delivers-to-russian-navy
Finland & Estonia Strategic Naval Plan -
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/naval-warfare/estonia-finland-plan-to-throw-noose-around-russian-baltic-fleet/

And THIS, a 1.5 year advance scheduled and notified MARCOM Naval Exercise, which pulled most Baltic Surface and Sub-Surfave Vessels from the Baltic and North Sea into the Atlantic within the same time window of NS-1/2 incident. As “Bluewater Sensors” had already gone off 24 hours prior (North Sea), additional US derived, and NATO AIR reconnaissance assets had already been dispatched into multiple NW EU coastal AOR’s

US and NATO MARCOM and New 2nd Fleet Exercise, Southern Portugal, LATE SEPTEMBER 2022 —

https://mc.nato.int/media-centre/news/2022/dynamic-messenger-22-nato-unmanned-maritime-systems-exercise

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🔹️ NS1 and NS2 have since the beginning remained in practice a Russian version of South China Sea weaponized islands in foreign territorial and open waters.

Russia SOP for the pipeline route has seen non-stop sensoring (internal and external), including heavy Naval Loitering and even penetration of all related national territorial waters.

Here are just a few more “dots” —

NS1 was completely off through September, as you are already aware.

From August 27 to September 3-4, 2022, Russia was scheduled and observed (monitored) all along NS1 and NS2 by US/NATO non-airbreather LEO ISR sensors, as well as air-breather ISR sensors.

The reason we had to rely on air and sat sensors almost completely was due to a long scheduled and published NATO ASW/anti-mine exercise over in Portugal as you will see below.

However, the scheduled AUG 27 to SEP 3-4 maintenance continued all the way up to 19-20 SEP 2022.

Here is what was supposed to happen -

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/new-russia-gas-halt-tighten-energy-screws-europe-2022-08-30/

While scheduled “maintenance” was to last until September 3, 2022, it was stretched all the way to this —

https://www.navaltoday.com/2022/09/20/russian-navys-baltic-fleet-ships-hunt-down-enemy-subs/

Which included Russian anti-ASW anti-mine hunter “vettes” like are seen here —

https://www.plenglish.com/news/2022/06/09/russian-baltic-fleet-launches-military-maneuvers/

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2022/june/11848-two-russian-navy-s-corvettes-enter-danish-territorial-waters.html

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2022/june/11866-russian-navy-grad-missile-ship-to-join-baltic-fleet-by-yearend.html

https://youtu.be/S1NI1iOOixc
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-hold-major-navy-drills-involving-all-its-fleets-2022-01-20/

Typically, these types of vessels have been used to keep NATO surface warfare naval surveillance assets away from the pipelines, or sections of the pipeline where Russian “maintenance” or underwater vehicles and activity are taking place. Russian often got away with it due to German and EU energy dependency.

However, as stated above, almost all non-static NATO surface and sub surface assets were clear over in the Atlantic, engaged in a large scale, non-classified, 1.5 year scheduled, joint ASW/anti-mine Naval exercise, involving the New US 2nd Fleet ASW Atlantic AOR linked here —

MARCOM
Exercise Location - Troia, Portugal

https://mc.nato.int/media-centre/news/2022/dynamic-messenger-22-nato-unmanned-maritime-systems-exercise

DM 22 involved 18 NATO ASW / anti-sea mine vessels, and 48 published underwater assets, and included myltiple university and R&D orgs. Officially began on 25 SEP 2022, with certain exercises and programs scheduled for between 7 to 10 days.

Many of the false reports which were pervasive this past week, and predominantly originating from FSB and SVR NGO’s, and Russian state media outlets claimed to have spotted NATO ASW and anti-mine vessels, but these were actually in Portugal, and nowhere near Bornholm.

I used the Open Source NATO ship numbers from the actual ship photos being posted as though taken from Bornholm, plugged them in, and tracked from this link, which actually does work despite the 404 warning —

https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/2013/02/military-sh

The exact ships (locations and detailed schedules) had been, and were within 150nm from Troia, Portugal.

Troia, Portugal is 1,752 nm (2,015m) from Ronne, Bornholm, Denmark (one way), and approximately 2.5 to 3.5 days, non-stop naval pass travel by sea, dependent on commercial and other ship traffic, and escort.

Online photo’s of ships were real, but from the past several years.

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🔹️ Important X Factors —

— The.[NordStream 1 & 2 explosions] happened on Same Day the Norway to Denmark gas pipeline (non NS 1/2 connected) junction was to be opened approximately 25 nautical miles away. The Natural Gas Norwegian/Baltic Pipe travels from the North Sea to Denmark, and by land to Poland.

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🔹️ IMPORTANT NATURAL GAS MARKET SPIKE worth several billion’s (Open Source) —

Market Natural Gas Prices had fallen on a near cyclical schedule, EVEN WITH NO GAS FLOW THROUGH NORDSTREAM, through much of September, then climbed on news Putin had determined to permanently cut off the remaining 40 BCM of gas transiting through Ukraine.

THEN — Natural Gas prices temporatily SPIKED 20% parabolically (Short Squeeze) on the news of the NS-1 and NS-2 explosions.

https://time.com/6218125/russia-gas-pipelines-energy-war/

— Natural Gas Market is Spooked, which helps Russia by raising the price of its gas. On Monday, 26 SEP 2022,, prices for European gas futures had fallen by nearly half from their high in August. *After news of the leaks, they rose nearly 20 percent to about 205 euros (or $191) per megawatt-hour, roughly five times the level of a year ago.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/kremlin-us-raised-lng-prices-sales-after-nord-stream-gas-leaks-2022-10-03/

Other Very Significant Financial’s —

$11 Billion Dollar NordStream 2 in Bankruptcy —
https://youtu.be/nohI960vpig

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The ruptures could also be a reminder from Moscow that if European countries keep up their support for Ukraine, they risk sabotage to vital energy infrastructure. Experts have warned for years of the danger posed by potential attacks. According to analysts, any disruption could spell trouble because European countries that have been dependent on Russian gas, like Germany and Austria, have little margin for error.
Over the last year, Gazprom and Russia have taken steps like altering the flows on the Nord Stream 1 pipeline, which analysts say were intended to raise political tensions and energy prices, and to slow EU winter gas storage.

https://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/09/28/world/europe/nordstream-pipeline-gas-leak-explosions.amp.html?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#link-4fa0ea44


Don’t really agree with Joe Blogs, but commentary on NS-1&2 pretty good for a civilian.

Pipeline Maintenance PIGS, EU Gas Set for Winter, Russia cut gas supply to Germany “for maintenance” in July (due to “leak”), August “maintenance”, and all of September to Germany Looking to “Repurpose Nordstream’s 1 & 2,

https://youtu.be/Xb5mB5QDUSE

Joe’s me tin of pig’s has remained a plausible threat to all adjoining NS-1&2 countries from the beginning, but we were thinking more along the line of a “nuclear pig” threat proximal to coastal Denmark and Germany.


Then there is THIS —

🔹️ Germany Planning to Repurpose It’s NordStream Sectuin for Baltic Ports Use, and possible elongated Natural Gas junctions (which was literally being debated in rhe government, to recoup losses and make use of the pipe for much needed energy (P.S. Russia Knew) —

https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/news/germany-repurposing-nord-stream-2-pipeline-baltic-sea-ports/

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germany-looking-repurposing-unused-nord-stream-2-pipeline-lng-use-report-2022-06-24/

https://www.offshore-technology.com/news/germany-russia-nord-pipeline/

https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2022-06-24/germany-looking-at-repurposing-unused-nord-stream-2-pipeline-for-lng-use-report

🔹️ Germany Looking to Take Control of it’s Nordstream Pipe Complex for Probable Large Scale Natural Gas Junction Repurposing —

https://markets-businessinsider-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/europe-energy-crisis-germany-russia-gas-pipeline-nord-stream-2-2022-6?amp=&amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16652107280363&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fmarkets.businessinsider.com%2Fnews%2Fcommodities%2Feurope-energy-crisis-germany-russia-gas-pipeline-nord-stream-2-2022-6

More — GERMANY LOOKS TO SEIZE CONTROL OF IT’S NORD STREAM 2: PRESS
https://www.naturalgasworld.com/germany-to-seize-control-of-nord-stream-2-pipeline-press-99137

https://oilprice-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Germany-Considers-Expropriating-Nord-Stream-2-For-LNG-Flows.amp.html?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16652107280363&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Foilprice.com%2FLatest-Energy-News%2FWorld-News%2FGermany-Considers-Expropriating-Nord-Stream-2-For-LNG-Flows.html


Other German NordStream Re-use Related —

German Firm Looking to Reuse and Repurpose Nordstream Pipe Material

https://www-dezeen-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.dezeen.com/2022/03/18/opposite-office-nord-stream-gas-pipeline-russia/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16652107280363&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dezeen.com%2F2022%2F03%2F18%2Fopposite-office-nord-stream-gas-pipeline-russia%2F

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Nord Stream 2 pipeline STATIC methane e pressure collapses mysteriously
>> overnight <<

Mon 26 Sep 2022 11:21 EDT

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/26/nord-stream-2-pipeline-pressure-collapses-mysteriously-overnight?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16652107280363&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fbusiness%2F2022%2Fsep%2F26%2Fnord-stream-2-pipeline-pressure-collapses-mysteriously-overnight

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Similar Related History —

Russian Fighter buzzed US P-8A over Baltic 2018

https://www-businessinsider-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.businessinsider.com/russia-fighter-buzzed-us-spy-plane-over-baltic-sea-2018-5?amp=&amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16652053176676&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Frussia-fighter-buzzed-us-spy-plane-over-baltic-sea-2018-5

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24/7 365 days per year NATO Baltic Guard — However, so does Russia, utilizing the NORDSTREAM pipeline system in a manner similar to how China wrongly utilizes South China Sea islands as permission to regularly place Russian ship and Kilo class subs into territorial waters of all Baltic countries sharing NordStream infrastructure.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_132685.htm

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SEP 22 2022
ALLIED AIR FORCES CONDUCT REGULAR TRAINING DRILLS IN BALTIC SEA REGION

“RAMSTEIN, Germany - On September 26 and 27, Allies Hungary, Germany, Czech Republic, Italy, Türkiye, the United Kingdom, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, as well as Partner Finland will conduct the third Ramstein Alloy exercise in 2022 with a focus on NATO’s Deter and Defend concept”

“Latvia will host the third sequel of the Allied/Partner live-fly exercise Ramstein Alloy 2022. During the routine two-day event, participating air forces will fly quick reaction alert drills including Communication Loss, Slow Mover Intercept, Dissimilar Air Combat Training, Combat Search and Rescue, Close Air Support and Air-to-Air Refuelling scenarios. One special focus will be on the integration of a Spanish Ground Based Air Defense Task Force into the activities. Spanish NASAMS air defence systems will simulate the defence of Lielvarde Air Base in Latvia against aerial attacks – a skill set that fighter pilots need to practice establishing air superiority during defensive operations, e.g. in an Article 5 situation.”

““For the first time we are including both air- and surface-based Integrated Air and Missile Defence activities in our drills,” said exercise planner Squadron Leader Craig Docker from Combined Air Operations Centre Uedem. “This underlines how the Allies are shielding the eastern flank and – at the same time – prepare for meaningful execution of NATO’s Deter and Defence concept in the Baltic region,” he added. “We are also training Air-Land Integration tactics, techniques and procedure with Czech jets and enhanced Forward Presence Battlegroup or Latvian Joint Terminal Attack Controllers enhancing our pilots’ and soldiers’ ability to work together in a multinational setting,” he concluded.”

https://ac.nato.int/archive/2022/allied-air-forces-conduct-regular-training-drills-in-baltic-sea-region


History of Baltops, which I have personally taken part in a few times —

Baltops Since 1971(Now 52 Years and running) Typically Held In June —

https://www.ncia.nato.int/about-us/newsroom/baltops-a-nato-maritime-exercise-with-46-years-of-history.html

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🇨🇳 Russian Navy “Corvettes” Shaddow BALTOPS 2022

https://news.usni.org/2022/06/07/russian-corvettes-spotted-shadowing-baltops-exercise

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Russo Energy Wars —

https://thecolumnist.org/news/newsitem/the-russo-ukrainian-gas-relations

Gazprom A Russian Political Weapon

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Gazprom-Shareholders-as-a-Percentage-of-Capital-Structure_tbl2_287215359/amp

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MAGAThon, just for you —

Additionally, without getting into any detail...

If I had “theoretically” been involved in gaming out a scenario, where we had to try and stop Russia, I would (”possibly”) consider targeting the NordStream complex NE of Narva — SW of Vyborg, where the time allowed for a nuclear pig being sent toward Denmark could be destroyed, and the Natural Gas would backup toward Leningrad Naval Base where the water and pipeline is more shallow, so much of the gas in the lines would escape to the surface just West of St. Petersburg, which could cause many naval and naval support vessels to sink.

Of course, only if someone was really making an effort to keep nuke pigs away from Europe, and cause significant troubles for Russia’s Baltic Fleet based out of Leningrad Naval Base.

Of course such a statement is futile for several reasons, but such a target objective would hopefully resulted in at least the fewest number of casualties.

But at such a point, we are way beyond such a notion.

So who really has the motivation?

🎚🇺🇸🇮🇱


62 posted on 10/20/2022 3:54:09 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: cranked

Absent any hard evidence, “good argument” is all we have to go on.


63 posted on 10/20/2022 3:57:19 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: TennesseeProfessor
Ukrainians have the ability....I'm sure they could pay someone...it's not like they have no connections with bad actors.

You're right...Germany was on the brink of making a deal with Russia for more gas via Nordstream....before "Z" blew it up.....

64 posted on 10/20/2022 4:30:54 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: dennisw

Funny how you make up your facts to try to clear the Senile Pedo - too many act like they know something when they either haven’t a clue or they just drank the long-term Kool-Aid the Left’s been pouring for the past 50 years.


65 posted on 10/20/2022 4:40:01 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: metmom

“Dementia Joe doesn’t know how to keep his mouth shut and regularly lets the cat out of the bag.

I have no doubt that he was correct on that one. And that the democrats are in on it.”

I agree with you.


66 posted on 10/20/2022 4:40:46 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: dennisw

So do you cut your hose to stop irrigating a particular part of your lawn or do you act like a sane man and turn it off at the tap?

Putin has his hand on the tap.

No amount of smoke blown up my bottom or gas lighting will change the hand on tap test.

US, UK or Ukes did it or some combo thereof. The smoking gun flight track data points to the US as does the super secret sensitive political bombshell Swedish findings they have hidden at the bottom of a well lest the political fallout crush them.


67 posted on 10/20/2022 4:48:00 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: dennisw

Hybrid warfare?

Yeah, now you’re supposed to start a fight by cutting off one of your fingers.


68 posted on 10/20/2022 5:09:37 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: patriotfury

Brevity is the soul of wit.


69 posted on 10/20/2022 5:24:36 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: patriotfury

Russian are perfectly capable at manufacturing pipe for their gaz pipelines. The Power of Siberia pipeline is all Russian pipe and goes to China.

For Nord Stream 2, Russian and German pipe were laid>> Wikipedia>>>
“Pipes were manufactured by EUROPIPE, OMK and the Chelyabinsk Pipe-Rolling Plant (Chelpipe), and were coated by Wasco Coatings Europe.”


70 posted on 10/20/2022 5:28:49 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: patriotfury

Jeez….Mama always said that more words is not always better when it comes to writing. Just sayin’.


71 posted on 10/20/2022 5:45:03 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: patriotfury

The furious patriot spamming this site with your cut&paste pap. No one reads that BS. Stupid little r democrats.


72 posted on 10/20/2022 5:47:33 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! The Gestapo closes ranks.)
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To: dennisw

You are correct .


73 posted on 10/20/2022 5:48:54 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: dennisw

- Russia invested billions into Nordstream I and II

- Russia gets approx 40% of its foreign currency income from these pipelines

- Russia sailed undetected to exactly the same location where the US Navy was testing underwater drones just days prior

- and then blew up their own pipeline

- the same day, a new pipeline from Norway opens up, with the intent of supplying gas from the US, a “tremendous opportunity” for the US as stated by US Second of State Blinken

- Joe Biden said he would take out the Russian pipelines

- a minister from Poland publicly said thank you to the US the day after


74 posted on 10/20/2022 5:50:12 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

-” Joe Biden said he would take out the Russian pipelines”

So you never believe what Joe Biden has to say, except for this one time.


75 posted on 10/20/2022 6:56:50 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

FALSE. Joe was NOT reading off a teleprompter, his handlers would never put such an incriminating idiotic statement on the teleprompter! Absurd! His threat to destroy the pipeline was a spontaneous off the cuff remark with the utter ring of truth. The very fact that he is demented is why we can be assured he spoke the truth in this matter - no one in their right mind would openly admit to it!

Joe Biden threatened to destroy the pipeline. The pipeline was destroyed. End of story, America did it. Are you telling me the incompetent Russian military sneaked into NATO waters, outsmarted all the NATO forces in the area destroyed it and left? The same crap military that can’t beat Ukraine? Come ON, learn to think straight!


76 posted on 10/20/2022 6:59:00 AM PDT by libertarian66
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To: libertarian66

“Joe Biden threatened to destroy the pipeline. The pipeline was destroyed. End of story, America did it. Are you telling me the incompetent Russian military sneaked into NATO waters, outsmarted all the NATO forces in the area destroyed it and left? The same crap military that can’t beat Ukraine? Come ON, learn to think straight!”

Joe’s denial that we blew up the pipelines was tepid at best. Then a few days later the cucks at the State Dept were saying that blowing it up was a good thing. If it was the Russians you can be sure the Joe’s admin would never imply the Rooskis did anything positive. Finally, the Swedes say they know who blew it up but won’t say. Why not? Could it be that would embarrass Joe?


77 posted on 10/20/2022 8:38:53 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

It’s more than an embarrassment, it’s an act of aggression and an act of war, possibly a war crime. That’s civilian infrastructure and many will die or suffer from lack of fuel. It puts the U.S. on the same footing as Russia.

This isn’t going to go well. Nuclear armed powers with madmen at the helm. America’s goal appears to be nuclear war, mass destruction, economic collapse and eradication of billions of people. Russia just wants some turf. Guess which side is more dangerous.


78 posted on 10/20/2022 10:50:36 AM PDT by libertarian66
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To: dennisw

you keep believing that, i got swamp land in minnesota to sell you cheap


79 posted on 10/20/2022 11:59:00 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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To: patriotfury
That is a lot of information which will take a few days for me to process it all.

So part of it is, Russia's ownership of the pipelines is largely a legally allowed legal fiction? Is that right?

80 posted on 10/20/2022 5:51:10 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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