Support for Zelensky/Ukraine is support for Biden/Deep State

10/17/2022 | vanity

[ransomnote]

ransomnote: I picked up many memes from other FReepers to use in today's thread and often lost track of whom to thank! For example, I know I picked up memes from cranked...

I've been baffled by the aggressive cheer-leading for the puppet Zelensky. Support for Zelensky and the Ukraine is support for Joe Biden/Hunter Biden even though they've already stolen so much money via the Deep State money laundering/fraud operations headquartered there. It's not just the Bidens; the Ukraine is the Deep State's back office. Why pour our money and weapons into a hole in the ground serving the Deep State?

I'm not the only one who knows our CIA (e.g., Victoria Nuland), along with other globalists, helped overthrow the Ukraine with their staged 'Color Revolution' (from 2014 - 2015) and that the region is routinely utilized by powerful Deep State interests to launder billions of dollars to fund their plans for world-wide dominion. The globalists don't care which of the Ukrainian citizens are used as canon fodder or, really, what portion of the land is flattened because ultimately, it's not their country, not their funds, not their own friends and family dying in the crossfire while the monsters 'play the game'.

The MSM tries to make the public to forget truth about the Ukraine, "...the most CORRUPT nation in Europe" and its "neo-Nazi problem".

There are some agitators losing sleep at night because I refuse to believe that the Commander in Chief of the Ukrainian Military is wearing bracelet adorned with a 'Scandanavian rope motif' instead of the obvious Swastika.

When I wouldn't buy their design assertions, the 'narrative' became that it's already been 'debunked,' the same way everything Trump ever said or did in real life has supposedly been 'debunked' by the MSM. Like that.

Zelensky's handlers direct him to point to bleeding and shell-shocked citizens and ask us to help them survive and suddenly many on FR choose to forget that the globalists own Zelensky and the Ukrainian government; the citizens are being used as props and will be ignored by design. All support given to the Ukraine will flow directly to Biden and his handlers and other globalists who are dedicated to destroying us.

Trump's treasonous tormentors in the MSM are now the favorite news sources for many who post feverishly to garner support for Zelensky. There are ridiculous shrieks on FR that any hesitation to give weapons/funds to the globalists running the Ukraine can only come from "Putinistas".

[H/T Travis McGee]

When Zelensky called for pro-active strikes against Russia, those on FR who said that might be a truly stupid/evil idea were ridiculed as Russian sympathizers. There's a rabid expectation on display; we have to conform, we have to support everything Zelensky's globalist handlers want or we're evil.

Ukraine Frantically Tries to Walk Back Zelensky Call for ‘Preemptive Strikes’ on Russia
	10/07/2022 7:55:14 AM PDT · by ChicagoConservative27 · 125 replies Breitbart ^ | 10/07/2022 | Frances Martel The presidential press office of Ukraine accused global media outlets of “nuclear hysteria” on Thursday for sharing remarks made by President Volodymyr Zelensky in which he asked the world for “preemptive strikes” on Russia to avoid nuclear war.

For those who really have forgotten that the Ukraine is the corrupt playground of people like the Bidens, the content below may be helpful. For example, you may want to watch the video clip of Joe Biden (metaphorically) exposing himself at the Council on Foreign Relations:

Joe Biden Admits Quid Pro Quo with Ukraine (video 1 min 16 seconds)

Why support the Ukraine when the Biden's rob from it freely? Shouldn't the Bidens get real jobs for a change?

When Biden recently provided another 12 Billion (or whatever the amount was) in aid to the Ukraine, I don't believe any of it ever left the US. The Ukraine was laundering billions for people like the Bidens, there's no way the pigs at the trough are going to stop gorging themselves on the puppet regime they built to supply them. Money and weapons dedicated to the Ukraine does not help the innocent citizens Zelensky is using as cannon fodder and photo ops. People like Biden just want to 'relieve' the United States of weapons and money in the time-honored Deep State tradition.

Zelensky is, by now, known for his green-screen (faked) street footage where the porn star continues to act the part of 'hero' for his fans.

There are some who have posted that he and his prime minister are Jewish and therefore none of what is posted about their corruption and the Nazi Azov troops can ever be true. I patiently explain that some people, for example porn stars, will sell themselves for money, power and promises of special treatment.

Tucker Carlson had a natural response to Zelensky's most recent whines for more money:

https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1580717198703611904?cxt=HHwWgMCi8dn66u8rAAAA

     

"As our economy degrades and our border is gone, that guy's lecturing us with some Christmas list, like, "I want a bicycle too, you better send it, quick!" Really? Up yours, Buddy!"

https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1580721868688224256

There's no shortage of proof that the Ukraine is a Deep State storefront that doesn't 'need' let alone 'deserve' our support.

In December 28, 2020, Ukrainian investigators put forth a video detailing evidence gathered for just a portion of the massive money laundering/fraud taking place there, courtesy of Deep Staters like Joe Biden and other US officials. The video is 1 hour 10 minutes in length. The transcript to the video, along with the link are provided below.

NOTE: FReeper bagster first called my attention to this video content in a post in which he thanked Tiger Claws, Fred Nerks, and HepticSceptic for bringing this information to our attention and pushing to keep it from being dismissed.

[H/T Fred Nerks for originally posting the following video link to FR]

https://rumble.com/vc8dqx-breaking-news-joe-biden-ukraine-bombshell.html

If you only have 30 seconds to investigate the video's content, have a look at the diagram below which shows how Joe and Hunter Biden laundered millions of dollars in the Ukraine (Burisma).

 
To go beyond the diagram, you're invited to read through transcripts or watch the video.

The investigator, Andree Derkach introduced the video, stating it covers corruption (Joe Biden, US State Department, Mnuchin etc.) including, but not limited to, the following points:

1. Ukrainian money that has disappeared to the Biden family.

2. Audio recordings (phone calls) between the 5th Prime Minister Poroshenko and Joe Biden.

3. Corruption related to the procurement of oil and gas that has resulted in a 30% higher utility tariff bills for all Ukrainians.

4. Embezzlement of 100s of thousands of dollars by the U.S. State Dept...

I'll add here that there's an example of swapping out legitimate prosecutors for deep state replacements by having all take a fake placement test. This is worth noting because I recently saw an American state enacting a new test that made me wonder if this tactic is in play stateside, again.

The Ukrainian investigators state they have all the documents to back up everything they say. They are somber as they present evidence against the Deep State that will likely get them, or their families, killed.

Even so, one investigator points to darkly humorous absurdities in Joe Biden/Poroshenko's mutual flattery - in Part I which includes documentation and the transcript of Biden's phone call with Poroshenko, the Ukrainian investigator below remarks sarcastically on their displays of 'statesmanship' and the way they Biden 'licks the Maldovian'. Here's an example:

Parts I, II and III were previously posted to FR and are linked.  I just transcribed Part IV last week and will post it below. 

Part I contains a summary of the first half of the video (e.g., Hunter's Burisma payments to 'Brandon') and insights, like Joe Biden's low opinion of sitting President Donald Trump (i.e., Biden said President Trump was a dog chasing a car, caught the car and doesn't know what to do with it.) The video is subtitled in English and subtitles for the presentation are shown at the Part I link below. Remaining parts are frame-by-frame, not summaries.

PART I

ransomnote: I want to point out in the Part I transcript, the November 16, 2016 phone call between Biden and Poroshenko, Biden says he's meeting with the Vice President (Pence) because he's the only one with foreign policy experience. I wonder what Biden and Pence talked about? And why didn't Pence ever mention his own or Biden's calls with Poroshenko when the Dems were trying to impeach President Trump for an on-the-record phone call with the Deep State installed Ukrainian head of state, Zelensky? Why didn't Pence say Trump's call was not unusual, and that he and Biden were on the phone with Poroshenko and didn't provide any sort of transcript, but that all was well?

PART II

PART III

PART IV

Transcript begins:

 

 

 

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NOTE: FReeper bagster first called my attention to this video content in a post in which he thanked Tiger Claws, Fred Nerks, and HepticSceptic for bringing this information to our attention and pushing to keep it from being dismissed.

[H/T Fred Nerks for originally posting the following video link to FR]

https://rumble.com/vc8dqx-breaking-news-joe-biden-ukraine-bombshell.html

 
To go beyond the diagram, you're invited to read through transcripts or watch the video.

The investigator, Andree Derkach introduced the video, stating it covers corruption (Joe Biden, US State Department, Mnuchin etc.) including, but not limited to, the following points:

1. Ukrainian money that has disappeared to the Biden family.

2. Audio recordings (phone calls) between the 5th Prime Minister Poroshenko and Joe Biden.

3. Corruption related to the procurement of oil and gas that has resulted in a 30% higher utility tariff bills for all Ukrainians.

4. Embezzlement of 100s of thousands of dollars by the U.S. State Dept...

I'll add here that there's an example of swapping out legitimate prosecutors for deep state replacements by having all take a fake placement test. This is worth noting because I recently saw an American state enacting a new test that made me wonder if this tactic is in play stateside, again.

The Ukrainian investigators state they have all the documents to back up everything they say. They are somber as they present evidence against the Deep State that will likely get them, or their families, killed.

Even so, one investigator points to darkly humorous absurdities in Joe Biden/Poroshenko's mutual flattery - in Part I which includes documentation and the transcript of Biden's phone call with Poroshenko, the Ukrainian investigator below remarks sarcastically on their displays of 'statesmanship' and the way they Biden 'licks the Maldovian'. Here's an example:

Parts I, II and III were previously posted to FR and are linked.  I just transcribed Part IV last week and will post it below. 

Part I contains a summary of the first half of the video (e.g., Hunter's Burisma payments to 'Brandon') and insights, like Joe Biden's low opinion of sitting President Donald Trump (i.e., Biden said President Trump was a dog chasing a car, caught the car and doesn't know what to do with it.) The video is subtitled in English and subtitles for the presentation are shown at the Part I link below. Remaining parts are frame-by-frame, not summaries.

PART I

ransomnote: I want to point out in the Part I transcript, the November 16, 2016 phone call between Biden and Poroshenko, Biden says he's meeting with the Vice President (Pence) because he's the only one with foreign policy experience. I wonder what Biden and Pence talked about? And why didn't Pence ever mention his own or Biden's calls with Poroshenko when the Dems were trying to impeach President Trump for an on-the-record phone call with the Deep State installed Ukrainian head of state, Zelensky? Why didn't Pence say Trump's call was not unusual, and that he and Biden were on the phone with Poroshenko and didn't provide any sort of transcript, but that all was well?

PART II

PART III

PART IV

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[mylife]

haluski too

[cranked]

Run out of straw yet?

[ransomnote]

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Support for Zelensky/Ukraine is support for Biden/Deep State, Vermont Lt wrote:

That is quite a post you put together.

But, Russian tanks are on streets that don’t belong to them. It’s pretty simple…they can go home and the people of the world will go back to not giving a hoot about either Russia or Ukraine.

Your entire argument is “They made me do it.” That doesn’t work for three year olds. It doesn’t work now.

And you dismiss the greed motivation of the Russians.

The deep state, with the help of our own CIA, overthrew the Ukraine in 2014-2015. I wrote that in the post. Did you read it?

I then provided extensive transcript information detailing how the region continues to serve as a money laundering/fraud storefront for the Ukraine. So those Azov Ukraine tanks are on streets that don't belong to them - they belong to the Deep State.

The pretense that the Ukraine is free and running at the will of the people is a lie, a disastrous lie at that.

[FreshPrince]

Things have gotten so desperate for Russia they have resorted flinging Iranian drones at Kiev apartment buildings and playgrounds ala Hitler and his V2s.

And unlike V2, can be shot down with small arms....

[Renfrew]

“Handing weapons and/or money to the Ukraine is the same as directly handing it to our globalist enemies who work to destroy us.”

That opinion is deranged.

Question if you had to live under one of the leaders, which would you prefer:
* Biden
* Putin
* Ayatollah Khamenei
* Kim Jong-un
* Fidel Castro

You need a severe case of Biden Derangement Syndrome to think he is the worst thing in the world. He is a mediocrity and one of our worst presidents, but he isn’t a murderous despot.

[Allegra]

Oh dear. The howling ankle-nippers will be quivering, yipping and yapping over this one.

[cranked]

Russia has there own suicide drones, propagandist.

Furthermore, spare me the fake rage of Russia getting drones from Iran. So like its A-OK for Ukraine to be getting military hardware from NATO but NOT A-OK for Russia to be getting military hardware from Iran?

Hypocrite much?
Oh my bad, pretty a-typical of folks like you.

It’s A-OK to kill tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq or elsewhere and then call such “collateral damage” but when civilians are killed in Kyiv, etc., it’s terrorism, etc., etc., etc.

Yeah, you all need to check your hypocrisy levels cause the stench of it is beyond nauseating.

[marktwain]

I guess you keep changing the subject because the fact that the Bidens strip the Ukraine along with other deep staters is irrefutable.

Handing weapons and/or money to the Ukraine is the same as directly handing it to our globalist enemies who work to destroy us.

I believe your premise is false.

We directly supplied Stalin with weapons and material during WWII, and before we entered the war.

Stalin was far worse than the Ukrainian government. The example of Stalin and the Soviet Union is a counter-example which disproves your premise.

Stalin was much more of a threat to us than Ukraine is today. (He was aligned with the Deep Staters in the USA as well.

Russia is as much a threat to the peace of Europe (and the world) as Hitler was in 1938.

[ransomnote]

You still can’t refute the fact that the Bidens and Deep State buddies are the recipients of any resources they feel like taking from the Ukraine, a region overthrown and run by their hand picked porn star at their behest. The puppet Zelensky does what the Deep State tells him to do, and sending money and weapons to the Ukraine is sending it to the Deep State for their continued appropriation. You can change the subject 100 times but the truth behind who owns and operates the Ukraine, who benefits from ‘donations’ is irrefutable.

[ransomnote]

Your premise is false.
The comparison with Stalin is inaccurate.
Any dime or bomb given to the Ukraine will be taken up by our enemies to use against our interests and they don’t care if they destroy Ukrainian citizens in the process.

[KobraKai]

Great post!

[cranked]

I believe your premise is wrong as well.

Who let the Nazis escape?
Who did not clear the Nazis out of their sphere of influence?
Who protected Nazis tucked away in Scandinavia and Canada?
Who brought the Nazis to the US to build the CIA and add to the war industries?
Who looked the other way as Nazis flowed to Latin America?

If it wasn’t for the Israelis, many Nazis would have lived in the West until they died in their beds.

The Soviets’ sphere was virtually purified from Nazis. They hunted down Bandera and sent him to hell.

The US modeled itself on some of the worst principles of the Third Reich: One primary one being its obsession about/with Communism.

Let’s be honest here: The West claims of defeating Nazism doesn’t pass any test of the facts nor does it pass the ‘Russia is the greatest threat since sliced bread, the invention of the toaster, and Hitler 1938.

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[Renfrew]

“You still can’t refute the fact that the Bidens and Deep State buddies are the recipients of any resources they feel like taking from the Ukraine, a”

Question, doesn’t the Deep State already control the United States and our military? If so giving American weapons to the Ukraine is not “giving them to the Deep State.” They already have them.

All they are doing is using the weapons they already control to kill some Russians, and that is a good thing.

[lonestar67]

False

[pierrem15]

The lion's share of money being spent now on Ukraine never leaves the US: it goes to payback the Pentagon for weapons delivered from US stocks or to US defense contractors.

Bribing US politicians is simply in Ukraine's (and many other foreign powers') best interests. The problem isn't Ukraine, it's corrupt US politicians.

The notion that the US 'installed' a puppet regime is simply nonsense. In fact, Yanukovych revealed himself to be Putin's tool in Ukraine and the Ukrainian people ousted him. We simply went along for the ride, and there have been several new elections since in Ukraine. This can only be a 'provocation' for Russia if you think Russia should control Ukraine. Is that what you think?

It is simply inconceivable to think how a Russian victory in Ukraine could be in US geopolitical interests. If you think Ukraine needs to be defeated to 'get back' at the Deep State, you're no different that communists who cheered on North Vietnam because they hated the US regime so much they saw the victory of a foreign power over the US as a positive step in their own political struggle.

[marktwain]

The Soviets’ sphere was virtually purified from Nazis. They hunted down Bandera and sent him to hell.

Sure.

Except the Soviets were worse than the NAZIs. They are both just versions of totalitarian leftist ideologies.

[cranked]

Fun Fact?

“Ukraine was NEVER a country until 1991 east of the river. That is why Bandara joined Hitler’s Nazis, promising they would be allowed to form a nation. Kiev was the origin of the Rus who are the Russians today. I am telling you I know Kyiv very well. They are the MOST corrupt government in the entire world. You cannot deal with them and ever expect the truth. They routinely created false flags, they shot down that Malaysian flight and tried to blame it on Russia”
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/ukraine/ukraine-was-never-a-country-until-1991/

[ransomnote]

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Support for Zelensky/Ukraine is support for Biden/Deep State, Renfrew wrote:

“You still can’t refute the fact that the Bidens and Deep State buddies are the recipients of any resources they feel like taking from the Ukraine, a”

Question, doesn’t the Deep State already control the United States and our military? If so giving American weapons to the Ukraine is not “giving them to the Deep State.” They already have them.

All they are doing is using the weapons they already control to kill some Russians, and that is a good thing.

I've never been in your present situation wherein all you can do is deflect because there's no way for you to actually refute my argument.

The Deep State doesn't have complete control of the US and our military. If they did, China would have helped 'distribute' the 'vaccine' at mandatory injection sites around the country. The Biden 'administration' complained bitterly about their feeble control over key military assets when they took office. A publication like 'the hill' or some such featured an article in which the Biden staff was infuriated because the US Military wouldn't answer questions about resources, but instead consulted a lawyer present. There's a firewall partially limiting Biden's control and if there wasn't, we wouldn't be having this conversation as we would not be permitted internet access.

[FreshPrince]

“It’s A-OK to kill tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq or elsewhere and then call such “collateral damage” but when civilians are killed in Kyiv, etc., it’s terrorism, etc., etc., etc.”

When did I say that?

But its the old “Everyone else is doing it so its ok” excuse.

deliberating targeting civilians is not “collalteral damage”; its a war crime.