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Support for Zelensky/Ukraine is support for Biden/Deep State
10/17/2022 | vanity

Posted on 10/17/2022 8:50:46 AM PDT by ransomnote

ransomnote: I picked up many memes from other FReepers to use in today's thread and often lost track of whom to thank! For example, I know I picked up memes from cranked...

I've been baffled by the aggressive cheer-leading for the puppet Zelensky. Support for Zelensky and the Ukraine is support for Joe Biden/Hunter Biden even though they've already stolen so much money via the Deep State money laundering/fraud operations headquartered there. It's not just the Bidens; the Ukraine is the Deep State's back office. Why pour our money and weapons into a hole in the ground serving the Deep State?

I'm not the only one who knows our CIA (e.g., Victoria Nuland), along with other globalists, helped overthrow the Ukraine with their staged 'Color Revolution' (from 2014 - 2015) and that the region is routinely utilized by powerful Deep State interests to launder billions of dollars to fund their plans for world-wide dominion. The globalists don't care which of the Ukrainian citizens are used as canon fodder or, really, what portion of the land is flattened because ultimately, it's not their country, not their funds, not their own friends and family dying in the crossfire while the monsters 'play the game'.

The MSM tries to make the public to forget truth about the Ukraine, "...the most CORRUPT nation in Europe" and its "neo-Nazi problem".

There are some agitators losing sleep at night because I refuse to believe that the Commander in Chief of the Ukrainian Military is wearing bracelet adorned with a 'Scandanavian rope motif' instead of the obvious Swastika.

When I wouldn't buy their design assertions, the 'narrative' became that it's already been 'debunked,' the same way everything Trump ever said or did in real life has supposedly been 'debunked' by the MSM. Like that.

Zelensky's handlers direct him to point to bleeding and shell-shocked citizens and ask us to help them survive and suddenly many on FR choose to forget that the globalists own Zelensky and the Ukrainian government; the citizens are being used as props and will be ignored by design. All support given to the Ukraine will flow directly to Biden and his handlers and other globalists who are dedicated to destroying us.

Trump's treasonous tormentors in the MSM are now the favorite news sources for many who post feverishly to garner support for Zelensky. There are ridiculous shrieks on FR that any hesitation to give weapons/funds to the globalists running the Ukraine can only come from "Putinistas".

[H/T Travis McGee]

When Zelensky called for pro-active strikes against Russia, those on FR who said that might be a truly stupid/evil idea were ridiculed as Russian sympathizers. There's a rabid expectation on display; we have to conform, we have to support everything Zelensky's globalist handlers want or we're evil.

Ukraine Frantically Tries to Walk Back Zelensky Call for ‘Preemptive Strikes’ on Russia
 
10/07/2022 7:55:14 AM PDT · by ChicagoConservative27 · 125 replies
Breitbart ^ | 10/07/2022 | Frances Martel
The presidential press office of Ukraine accused global media outlets of “nuclear hysteria” on Thursday for sharing remarks made by President Volodymyr Zelensky in which he asked the world for “preemptive strikes” on Russia to avoid nuclear war.

For those who really have forgotten that the Ukraine is the corrupt playground of people like the Bidens, the content below may be helpful. For example, you may want to watch the video clip of Joe Biden (metaphorically) exposing himself at the Council on Foreign Relations:

Joe Biden Admits Quid Pro Quo with Ukraine (video 1 min 16 seconds)

Why support the Ukraine when the Biden's rob from it freely? Shouldn't the Bidens get real jobs for a change?

When Biden recently provided another 12 Billion (or whatever the amount was) in aid to the Ukraine, I don't believe any of it ever left the US. The Ukraine was laundering billions for people like the Bidens, there's no way the pigs at the trough are going to stop gorging themselves on the puppet regime they built to supply them. Money and weapons dedicated to the Ukraine does not help the innocent citizens Zelensky is using as cannon fodder and photo ops. People like Biden just want to 'relieve' the United States of weapons and money in the time-honored Deep State tradition.

Zelensky is, by now, known for his green-screen (faked) street footage where the porn star continues to act the part of 'hero' for his fans.

There are some who have posted that he and his prime minister are Jewish and therefore none of what is posted about their corruption and the Nazi Azov troops can ever be true. I patiently explain that some people, for example porn stars, will sell themselves for money, power and promises of special treatment.

Tucker Carlson had a natural response to Zelensky's most recent whines for more money:

https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1580717198703611904?cxt=HHwWgMCi8dn66u8rAAAA

     

"As our economy degrades and our border is gone, that guy's lecturing us with some Christmas list, like, "I want a bicycle too, you better send it, quick!" Really? Up yours, Buddy!"

https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1580721868688224256

There's no shortage of proof that the Ukraine is a Deep State storefront that doesn't 'need' let alone 'deserve' our support.

In December 28, 2020, Ukrainian investigators put forth a video detailing evidence gathered for just a portion of the massive money laundering/fraud taking place there, courtesy of Deep Staters like Joe Biden and other US officials. The video is 1 hour 10 minutes in length. The transcript to the video, along with the link are provided below.

NOTE: FReeper bagster first called my attention to this video content in a post in which he thanked Tiger Claws, Fred Nerks, and HepticSceptic for bringing this information to our attention and pushing to keep it from being dismissed.

[H/T Fred Nerks for originally posting the following video link to FR]

https://rumble.com/vc8dqx-breaking-news-joe-biden-ukraine-bombshell.html

If you only have 30 seconds to investigate the video's content, have a look at the diagram below which shows how Joe and Hunter Biden laundered millions of dollars in the Ukraine (Burisma).

 
To go beyond the diagram, you're invited to read through transcripts or watch the video.

The investigator, Andree Derkach introduced the video, stating it covers corruption (Joe Biden, US State Department, Mnuchin etc.) including, but not limited to, the following points:

1. Ukrainian money that has disappeared to the Biden family.

2. Audio recordings (phone calls) between the 5th Prime Minister Poroshenko and Joe Biden.

3. Corruption related to the procurement of oil and gas that has resulted in a 30% higher utility tariff bills for all Ukrainians.

4. Embezzlement of 100s of thousands of dollars by the U.S. State Dept...

I'll add here that there's an example of swapping out legitimate prosecutors for deep state replacements by having all take a fake placement test. This is worth noting because I recently saw an American state enacting a new test that made me wonder if this tactic is in play stateside, again.

The Ukrainian investigators state they have all the documents to back up everything they say. They are somber as they present evidence against the Deep State that will likely get them, or their families, killed.

Even so, one investigator points to darkly humorous absurdities in Joe Biden/Poroshenko's mutual flattery - in Part I which includes documentation and the transcript of Biden's phone call with Poroshenko, the Ukrainian investigator below remarks sarcastically on their displays of 'statesmanship' and the way they Biden 'licks the Maldovian'. Here's an example:

Parts I, II and III were previously posted to FR and are linked.  I just transcribed Part IV last week and will post it below. 

Part I contains a summary of the first half of the video (e.g., Hunter's Burisma payments to 'Brandon') and insights, like Joe Biden's low opinion of sitting President Donald Trump (i.e., Biden said President Trump was a dog chasing a car, caught the car and doesn't know what to do with it.) The video is subtitled in English and subtitles for the presentation are shown at the Part I link below. Remaining parts are frame-by-frame, not summaries.

PART I

ransomnote: I want to point out in the Part I transcript, the November 16, 2016 phone call between Biden and Poroshenko, Biden says he's meeting with the Vice President (Pence) because he's the only one with foreign policy experience. I wonder what Biden and Pence talked about? And why didn't Pence ever mention his own or Biden's calls with Poroshenko when the Dems were trying to impeach President Trump for an on-the-record phone call with the Deep State installed Ukrainian head of state, Zelensky? Why didn't Pence say Trump's call was not unusual, and that he and Biden were on the phone with Poroshenko and didn't provide any sort of transcript, but that all was well?

PART II

PART III

PART IV

Transcript begins:

 

 

 

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To: ransomnote

I have travelled to Ukraine several times in the past decade.

Its a depressing place, but its people in both East and West were solid, honest, intelligent. I felt it had so much promise.

Sadly, our deep-state has infected Ukraine - and they have infected US. EVERY high-level political scandal of the last 6 years has BEEN TIED IN SOME WAY TO UKRAINE, with the assistance of our corrupt deep state

Steele Dossier
The prosecution of Paul Manafort
FBI lies to FISA court
Hunter Biden in all his crackhead glory
Joe Biden bragging about firing Ukraine Prosecutor
The Vindmans / Impeachment


21 posted on 10/17/2022 9:06:02 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: ransomnote
In light of the Russian drone strikes in Kyiv this morning, Ukrainian air defenses were busy....
22 posted on 10/17/2022 9:06:21 AM PDT by cranked
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To: ransomnote

Thanks for this excellent post. ANYTHING the leftist/globalist filth cabal gets behind I am opposed to. ANYTHING WEF/Soros/GloboHomo/IMH/UN is for I am reflexively against. Eff Ukraine. Eff Russia. Not one penny for either. Much money for combat- disabled US veterans and their families.


23 posted on 10/17/2022 9:06:21 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (I)
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To: ransomnote

That is quite a post you put together.

But, Russian tanks are on streets that don’t belong to them. It’s pretty simple…they can go home and the people of the world will go back to not giving a hoot about either Russia or Ukraine.

Your entire argument is “They made me do it.” That doesn’t work for three year olds. It doesn’t work now.

And you dismiss the greed motivation of the Russians.


24 posted on 10/17/2022 9:06:53 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: ransomnote

NO! Support for Ukraine is support for the Ukrainian people against the invasion of a foreign power. This is a conflict between two nations, not a personal drama between their leaders. Even with the most corrupt leadership in the world, the Ukrainian people have the right to defend themselves against this Russian invasion. It is also laughable to attempt to discredit the defense of Ukraine on the basis of claimed corruption when any such corruption pales in comparison to that of Putin and his regime. Those opposed to Ukraine need to stop viewing this as their own surrogate war against the threats of the Left and the New World Order. A Russian conquest of Ukraine will do nothing in that regard. Rather, it would only advance the imperial ambitions of those in Russia who cannot accept the breakup of the Soviet Union and the greater Russian world.


25 posted on 10/17/2022 9:07:24 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

No one cares whether you support the Ukraine or not. I’m sure any former Soviet Republic is corrupt, but saying something patently ridiculous like the Ukraine is so corrupt and Russia isn’t corrupt makes you look like a complete idiot. Obama was on record at trying to give Putin anything he wanted.


26 posted on 10/17/2022 9:08:22 AM PDT by nickcarraway (Found)
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To: DannyTN
NEVER GOOGLE ARTICLE 16 OF UKRAINES CONSTITUTION. WORST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE! https://mobile.twitter.com/REVMAXXING/status/1581441449811267584
27 posted on 10/17/2022 9:09:48 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Renfrew

The top of my list of security activities would be to stop the constant influx of foreign fighters flooding our southern and northern borders. Armies of enemies are welcomed in and bused around the country and stopping that is job #1. If the US is overthrown from within, the issue of Cuba is moot.

You boil the issues down to over simplified, “who is our friend?” The global conflict map is built on shifting sands reliant on context. In the context of the Ukraine, support for the Ukraine is support for Joe Biden and Deeps staters who overthrew that region to use as their corrupt satellite.


28 posted on 10/17/2022 9:11:14 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

lets all have perogies and be friends


29 posted on 10/17/2022 9:12:27 AM PDT by mylife (And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids...)
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To: nickcarraway
but saying something patently ridiculous like the Ukraine is so corrupt and Russia isn’t corrupt makes you look like a complete idiot.

You'd best read more carefully, since when you add to what someone said, it makes you look "like a complete idiot."

I never mentioned Russia, which is of course corrupt.

I will await your apology.

30 posted on 10/17/2022 9:13:13 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: cranked

Doesn’t excuse Russia acting like they have an article in their constitution vowing to wipe out the gene pool of the Ukrainian people.

Putin has displaced 14 million people with his war. 7 million plus left Ukraine because of the terror that Russia represents.

Putin is despicable.


31 posted on 10/17/2022 9:13:17 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

“Most Americans can’t find Russia on a map. They hate a country that did nothing to them.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqjZlIKMKzA


32 posted on 10/17/2022 9:13:56 AM PDT by cranked
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To: ransomnote

Thanks!


33 posted on 10/17/2022 9:14:53 AM PDT by Prolixus (In all seriousness:)
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To: mylife

Pierogi’s!!!

Can create world peace.


34 posted on 10/17/2022 9:16:29 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: nickcarraway
communism globalism and leftism

If you are supporting the Ukraine, then yes, you would be supporting the above. Not to mention Soros and Schwab, the Dynamic Duo that is busy destroying the U.S. with the help of D and R globalists.

35 posted on 10/17/2022 9:17:03 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (To solve the Democrat problem, the RINO problem must first be solved.)
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To: cranked

If only that could be true!!!!

“Pop” goes that little shit, joe Biden!


36 posted on 10/17/2022 9:17:12 AM PDT by BatGuano (2020 = Stolen Election. Believe it! Molon Labe.)
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To: ransomnote

“In the context of the Ukraine, support for the Ukraine is support for Joe Biden and Deeps staters who overthrew that region to use as their corrupt satellite.”

For generations Mexico and Central America have been our corrupt satellite.

Does that mean you would support Cuba invading and overthrowing the regimes there?


37 posted on 10/17/2022 9:19:38 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: Petrosius
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Support for Zelensky/Ukraine is support for Biden/Deep State, Petrosius wrote:

NO! Support for Ukraine is support for the Ukrainian people against the invasion of a foreign power. This is a conflict between two nations, not a personal drama between their leaders. Even with the most corrupt leadership in the world, the Ukrainian people have the right to defend themselves against this Russian invasion. It is also laughable to attempt to discredit the defense of Ukraine on the basis of claimed corruption when any such corruption pales in comparison to that of Putin and his regime. Those opposed to Ukraine need to stop viewing this as their own surrogate war against the threats of the Left and the New World Order. A Russian conquest of Ukraine will do nothing in that regard. Rather, it would only advance the imperial ambitions of those in Russia who cannot accept the breakup of the Soviet Union and the greater Russian world.

The people won't get anything, as usual. When Bidens were ripping off the Ukraine, the people lost money. Read the transcript of the video - the citizens utility bills went up 30% to pay for the fraud and money laundering. NOTHING given to the Ukraine as 'support' reaches the citizens. Biden is helping to strip the US of weapons, knowing that Zelensky's Azov military is certain to lose this conflict. Calls to send money are just redistribution plans to take American tax dollars and give it to Biden and his cronies while claiming to 'support the Ukraine.' The innocent people involved won't get a dime.


38 posted on 10/17/2022 9:19:47 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Renfrew

I guess you keep changing the subject because the fact that the Bidens strip the Ukraine along with other deep staters is irrefutable.

Handing weapons and/or money to the Ukraine is the same as directly handing it to our globalist enemies who work to destroy us.


39 posted on 10/17/2022 9:21:40 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: cranked

Things have grown so desperate in Kyiv, that the Ukrainians are literally having to resort to shooting at drones with rifles.

“Russia’s kamikaze drones. Protests, France & Moldova. Libya propaganda recycled. U/1”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ryrNQibEGo


40 posted on 10/17/2022 9:21:58 AM PDT by cranked
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