Do the math: Vaccines alone won’t get us out of this pandemic

Stat ^ | 02/10/2021 | Lain Mcleod

[EBH]

Excluding those currently ineligible for vaccination against SARS-CoV-2 due to age or other conditions leaves 75% of Americans with no restrictions on vaccination. Factoring in the 13% of Americans who definitely don’t want the vaccine and the 7% who would get it only if it was required means just 49.5% of Americans would have immunity in the near future. If half of those who are in a wait-and-see mode don’t get vaccinated — another 15% of the population — then we are looking at just 40% vaccine coverage of the currently eligible population, far below the 70% needed for herd immunity. And that’s even before considering that real-world vaccine effectiveness will be below clinical trial levels....

....It’s time to stop promoting the myopic belief that the unrealistic goal of herd immunity can be achieved in 2021 and start looking to reinforcing all aspects of the health care response as we start to concede that Covid-19 will become an endemic disease that will continue to lurk in the population. For the foreseeable future, that means continued physical distancing; occupancy limits in restaurants and other retail establishments; replacement of physical menus with smart phone-based menus to prevent surface spread of the virus, and more.

[sauropod]

Bkmk

[databoss]

What I don’t get is why people are not being tested prior to vaccination to see if they already have immunity? Seems like a waste of doses if the person doesn’t need it.

[billyboy15]

I agree 100% with all you say.

[dangus]

Interesting that somehow the pandemic is receding astonishingly quickly, down nationwide about 75% in just the past month.

[dangus]

>> Who cares if an eighteen-year-old gets the virus? <<

I said last summer that we ought to let it burn hot and burn out... Let acquired-immunity young people become a fireline. And I believe that’s what we’re REALLY seeing now.

[DoodleBob]

We saw a SEASONAL RISE in cases and fatalities, and likely not a "surge" or a "new strain of the virus", and will shortly see a SEASONAL DECLINE and likely not the result of triple-masking, vaccines, Biden*, or statist policies.

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Viruses gonna virus. Even non-viruses gonna non-virus. I think the writer is correct: this bug is here Forever, so people will need to choose between existing as a masked-up people and maybe live a few extra years (if you're not hit by a bus first), or live mask-free and maybe die a little earlier.

[Sacajaweau]

Cases, cases, cases....means immunity, immunity, immunity.

They count them all as being a bad thing when in fact, it's a good thing.

[HypatiaTaught]

Only 6% will refuse this sham vaccine?

This is depressing.

We truly have the walking dead among us.

[bk1000]

Anyone wants to wear a mask, go right ahead. It even says ON THE BOX they do nothing against Wu Flu. It is not my responsibility to make you “feel safe”. You want to take an experimental vaccine, go right ahead. Try to make me take it and I’ll shoot. Besides, those mask wearing vaccine taking sheeple have nothing to fear from we “deniers”, right? We’ll all get the China virus and die, right? People need to get a grip and get out. It’s not as bad out there as the media and tools like Cuomo tell them. Case numbers were spun up using over-sensitive tests for political reasons. Funny they changed the test as soon as Big Guy got in.

[HypatiaTaught]

Please stop.

Your post is too logical.

Way over the heads of the Rats and other numnuts here on Free Republic.

[trebb]

False memes since the word is that the vaccines don’t keep one from getting or spreading the virus - they want to have their cake and some of Nancy’s ice-cream too.

[billyboy15]

Agreed but it works on the ignorant,

[ontap]

Especially Voodoo vaccines!!!

[RinaseaofDs]

“If the medicine protects me at seventy-nine years of age from the virus”

Are you sure that it will? How do you know that it will?

[metmom]

The Spanish Flu in 1917/1918 burned itself out after a couple years with no vaccines or other intervention, and it was far more deadly than COVID.

Sure they wore masks, but it didn’t seem to help them either.

It had to run its course, like almost ALL disease does.

[logi_cal869]

There is no comprehensive study nationwide in the US to ascertain any level of accuracy of immunity from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection.

I wonder why. /s

Cases are dropping due to the procession of the Earth around the Sun, not to to any Earthly or human effect, proven by the examples set forth around the globe, the most recent contrast given between FL & CA.

Politics launched this fake crisis, politics profited for a chosen few and politics is extending the ‘virus crisis’ for maximum benefit of those few.

Government, in turn, takes full advantage.

The domestic enemies are not those portrayed by the media and rogue politicians and are, in fact, quite easily identifiable.

‘Vaccines’ are a metaphor and a convenient mass distraction from reality.

[MAAG]

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late
With long arrears to make good,
When the Patriot began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy-willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Patriot began to hate.

Their voices were even and low,
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show,
When the Patriot began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd,
It was not taught by the State.
No man spoke it aloud,
When the Patriot began to hate.

It was not suddenly bred,
It will not swiftly abate,
Through the chill years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Patriot began to hate.

[Boogieman]

“as we start to concede that Covid-19 will become an endemic disease that will continue to lurk in the population. For the foreseeable future, that means continued physical distancing; occupancy limits...”

Or it just means that we go on with our lives and quickly develop a natural immunity to it like we do to the seasonal respiratory viruses that pop out of the woodwork every other year.

[LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget]

Then I see this nugget:

Israeli Study Finds 94 Percent Drop in Symptomatic COVID-19 Cases with Pfizer Vaccine

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/pfizer-vaccine/2021/02/14/id/1010012/

This damned thing is so politicized it is disgusting.

This would mean no masks, no lockdowns, no problems.

[1Old Pro]

It’s good that “science” is consistent, undisputed and reliable because just this morning experts were saying herd immunity would be achieved by late 2nd quarter.