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Neanderthal-like features in 450,000-year-old fossil teeth from the Italian Peninsula
EurekAlert! ^ | October 3, 2018 | PLOS

Posted on 10/13/2018 4:10:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Zanolli and colleagues examined dental remains from the sites of Fontana Fanuccio, located 50km southeast of Rome, and Visogliano, located 18km northwest of Trieste. At around 450,000 years old, these teeth join a very short list of fossil human remains from Middle Pleistocene Europe. Using micro-CT scanning and detailed morphological analyses, the authors examined the shape and arrangement of tooth tissues and compared them with teeth of other human species. They found that the teeth of both sites share similarities with Neanderthals and are distinct from modern humans.

There has been much debate over the identities and relationships of Middle Pleistocene ancient humans in Eurasia. The discovery of Neanderthal-like teeth so early in the record adds support to the suggestion of an early divergence of the Neanderthal lineage from our own, around the Early-Middle Pleistocene transition. The teeth are also notably different from other teeth known from this time in Eurasia, suggesting that there may have been multiple human lineages populating the region at this time, adding to a growing list of evidence that the Middle Pleistocene was a time of more complex human evolution than previously recognized.

Zanolli adds: "The remains from Fontana Ranuccio and Visogliano represent among the oldest human fossil remains testifying to a peopling phase of the Italian Peninsula. Our analyses of the tooth internal structural organization reveal a Neanderthal-like signature, also resembling the condition shown by the contemporary assemblage from Atapuerca Sima de los Huesos, indicating that an overall Neanderthal morphological dental template was preconfigured in Western Europe at least 430 to 450 ka ago."

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; crevo; fontanafanuccio; godsgravesglyphs; homoantecessor; italy; lucy; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; paleontology; piltdownman; storkzilla
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This is a virtual rendering of the Visogliano and Fontana Ranuccio teeth. [Credit: Zanolli et al., 2018; CC-BY - Redistribution allowed with credit.]

Zanolli et al., 2018; CC-BY - Redistribution allowed with credit

1 posted on 10/13/2018 4:10:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
"Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
KEYWORDS: neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
2 posted on 10/13/2018 4:10:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv

I thought they were gonna say upper peninsula.

CC


3 posted on 10/13/2018 4:29:55 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Do you know what really burns my ass? A flame about 3 feet high.)
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To: Celtic Conservative
Heh...

4 posted on 10/13/2018 4:38:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv

Further investigation will discover two .22 cal size holes in the back of the cranium and traces of cement around the ankles.


5 posted on 10/13/2018 4:45:10 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: SunkenCiv

Robert has a lot of very informative videos.
I really enjoy his YT channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJauteYFEsE


6 posted on 10/13/2018 4:49:02 PM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: SunkenCiv

I thought immediately of this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Oreopithecus_bambolii_1.JPG


7 posted on 10/13/2018 5:05:59 PM PDT by ZULU (MAGA)
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To: SunkenCiv
I came across this today if you haven't seen it: Four Gold Hats: A Bronze Age Mystery
8 posted on 10/13/2018 7:26:22 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Celtic Conservative; SunkenCiv
Lot of Italians in Michigan's lower peninsula. Try Buddy's Pizza sometime. Not sure about the upper peninsula. Might be some Neanderthals around.


9 posted on 10/13/2018 9:39:40 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Sawdring
Oooh, new to me! Gotta read this in entire right now.

10 posted on 10/13/2018 10:19:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Larry Lucido
We've got 'em here too. Not Buddy's, Italians. :^)

11 posted on 10/13/2018 10:36:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: ZULU
Looks like a real cookie, Slick would be daydreaming about it right now.

12 posted on 10/13/2018 10:38:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Westbrook
"It would be a shame to see something bad happen to your nice subspecies..."

13 posted on 10/13/2018 10:46:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Original Lurker
Robert Sepehr? No thanks.

14 posted on 10/13/2018 11:34:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Larry Lucido

Holly and the Italians
Tell That Girl to Shut Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shYf4x7PWg4


15 posted on 10/13/2018 11:49:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL!!


16 posted on 10/14/2018 6:45:00 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yes,I hadn’t seen it before either.


17 posted on 10/14/2018 8:34:09 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Larry Lucido

No neanderthals, but plenty of Norwegians

Uff da!

CC


18 posted on 10/14/2018 2:10:39 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Do you know what really burns my ass? A flame about 3 feet high.)
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To: SunkenCiv
450,000-year-old fossil teeth from the Italian Peninsula


19 posted on 10/14/2018 2:42:33 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Trump hates negative publicity, unless he generates it. -Corey Lewandowski)
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To: Original Lurker; ZULU; SunkenCiv; BenLurkin; blam; All

A few years ago I went to see the wall of skulls illustrating human evolution and the Smithsonian financed by David Coch(sp?). The earliest hominid skulls start at the left and the most recent end at the right. They are all labeled. There were a lot of Heidelbergensis and Neanderthal. At the very end in the lower right corner was a skull labeled homo sapien and an age of 12,000. It did not look like an HS, so I looked at the other skulls to see which it most resembled. The winner was Heidelbergensis. At home I Googled the found location. Something like Cow Marsh or Kow Swamp, I don’t remember for sure and my computer is misbehaving so I don’t dare go look for it while in the middle of writing this. Sure enough several skeletal remains had been found at that location and there was a lot of argument over the identification because of the primitive features and the recent age. This swamp or marsh is located far to the South of Australia. I believe that these were a primitive population that may have been there when the HS aboriginies arrived about 50,000 years ago. Then they were gradually pushed to the south over 38,000 years and finally killed off or died off. IF you ever get to DC, go look at that exhibit and see if you agree.

Neanderthals have a kind of incisor called a shovel tooth. Also can be found at Google. My two incisors on each side of the 2 central ones have that feature. My teeth are also large and very hard. One of these days I will do Ancestry and see how much Neanderthal blood I have. My oldest son had all 6 of his wisdom teeth pulled. Dentist wanted to know if he had Esquimo (sp?) ancestry. It turns out his dad was 1/16th Cree Indian (a Canadian tribe). He is very compact and strong and has done 20 years in 82nd Airborne and Special Forces. His dad had a lot of Neanderthal type physical features, but I don’t have any usable DNA for him since he died in 2005.


20 posted on 10/14/2018 11:20:32 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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