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Climate change killed off Neanderthals, study says
Fox ^ | Chris Ciaccia |

Posted on 08/31/2018 11:13:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin

The evidence is there that Europe experienced stark cold and dry spells, putting a strain on Neanderthals' food supply and ability to survive. Thanks to a group of researchers looking at stalagmites in Romania, we may have proof this was indeed the case.

Dr. Ersek and his team looked at the stalagmites—rocks that gather in caves for long stretches of time —to look at the climate. Stalagmites contain rings, similar to trees, which can give an indication of how extreme weather patterns, occurring over thousands of years, impacted Neanderthals.

The study was published in the scientific journal Proceedings of the Natural Academy of Sciences. Neanderthals existed on Eurasia for approximately 350,000 years. But during the time of the last Ice Age and the arrival of modern humans in Europe, they became extinct.

During cold periods of time, the team found a "near complete absence" of archaeological artifacts from the group, suggesting cooler temperatures meant fewer tools. Though Neanderthals had learned to control and manipulate fire, just like modern humans, Neanderthals did not incorporate fish and plants into their diet, giving them fewer food sources.

“But our findings indicate that the Neanderthal populations successively decreased during the repeated cold stadials."

A stadial is a period of colder climate; conversely, an interstadial is a period of warmer climate.

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TOPICS: Humor
KEYWORDS: climatechange; dietandcuisine; fakescience; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; huntergatherers; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s like I explained to my kids when they will little: Never take this stuff seriously. This weeks “scientific” theory will be always “disproved” by next week’s theory.


21 posted on 08/31/2018 11:36:23 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

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This BS is beyond fantasy!

The Neanderthals are very much still here among us.


22 posted on 08/31/2018 11:38:22 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: BenLurkin
p03

"I keep the pool heated to 90 degrees year round."

23 posted on 08/31/2018 11:38:49 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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According to archaeologists in Germany, Neanderthals burned birch over fires to make a tarry adhesive. This was used to stick tools together, suggesting that Neanderthals were relatively sophisticated. The fossilised wood tar, containing a fingerprint and the imprint of a flint stone tool was found near Königsaue in the northern foothills of the Harz Mountains.

Neanderthals 'used glue to make tools' [Saturday, January 19, 2002]

24 posted on 08/31/2018 11:40:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: BenLurkin
“But our findings indicate that the Neanderthal populations successively decreased during the repeated cold stadials."

Did they stay in place and freeze like pigressives expecting government handouts or did they move to a warmer climate?
25 posted on 08/31/2018 11:44:46 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Innovative

Un-possible evolution creates an unending supply of bigger and better idiots all the time, just look around.


26 posted on 08/31/2018 11:47:35 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: BenLurkin

If the N’s were killed off by climate change, why weren’t the CroMagnons killed off as wel? Since they apparently lived in close proximity and mated. That is evidenced by the studies that have shown that there are N genes in certain segments of Earth’s present population.


27 posted on 08/31/2018 11:47:41 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: BenLurkin

Video killed the radio star.

5.56mm


28 posted on 08/31/2018 11:48:10 AM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: BenLurkin

Pretty dumb study. It’s been known for decades Neanderthals were hunter gatherers who moved with the seasons. Not much to eat in an ice field. Which is why no artifacts were deposited during cold spells.


29 posted on 08/31/2018 11:52:45 AM PDT by Justa
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To: BenLurkin

I would bet the Neanderthals ate plants - are there any people who don’t? Even Eskimos traditionally ate berries, tubers, seaweed and some other plants in season.


30 posted on 08/31/2018 11:58:19 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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Caves reveal clues to UK weather
by Tom Heap
Saturday, December 2, 2000
At Pooles Cavern in Derbyshire, it was discovered that the stalagmites grow faster in the winter months when it rains more. Alan Walker, who guides visitors through the caves, says the changes in rainfall are recorded in the stalactites and stalagmites like the growth rings in trees. Stalagmites from a number of caves have now been analysed by Dr Andy Baker at Newcastle University. After splitting and polishing the rock, he can measure its growth precisely and has built up a precipitation history going back thousands of years. His study suggests this autumn's rainfall is not at all unusual when looked at over such a timescale but is well within historic variations. He believes politicians find it expedient to blame a man-made change in our weather rather than addressing the complex scientific picture.

(I like that closing sentence -- "future decision-making could be made based on scientific data and not on political expediency". I wouldn't count on it, but that would be great.)
Disaster that struck the ancients
Professor Fekri Hassan, from University College London, UK, wanted to solve the mystery, by gathering together scientific clues. His inspiration was the little known tomb in southern Egypt of a regional governor, Ankhtifi. The hieroglyphs there reported "all of Upper Egypt was dying of hunger to such a degree that everyone had come to eating their children". Dismissed as exaggeration and fantasy by most other Egyptologists, Fekri was determined to prove the writings were true and accurate. He also had to find a culprit capable of producing such misery. He studied the meticulous records, kept since the 7th Century, of Nile floods. He was amazed to see that there was a huge variation in the size of the annual Nile floods - the floods that were vital for irrigating the land. But no records existed for 2,200BC. Then came a breakthrough - a new discovery in the hills of neighbouring Israel. Mira Bar-Matthews of the Geological Survey of Israel had found a unique record of past climates, locked in the stalactites and stalagmites of a cave near Tel Aviv. What they show is a sudden and dramatic drop in rainfall, by 20%. It is the largest climate event in 5,000 years. And the date? 2,200 BC.
4,000-year-old planned community unearthed
Oct 13 2000
"'Evidently, the conception of what was urban in 2500 to 2000 B.C. was not all that different from what is considered urban today,' said Guillermo Algaze, an associate professor of anthropology at the University of California, San Diego, who has been directing the excavation of Titris Hoyuk, a 125-acre walled urban site in the Euphrates River Basin in southeastern Turkey that flourished for a brief time in the third millennium Bronze Age. In its heyday, Titris had about 10,000 residents. Titris was a failure as a city and as a civilization, rising and falling within a 300 year period, never again to be reoccupied. But, said Algaze, Titrus's failure -- probably due to a shifting in trade routes -- is also the key to its appeal to modern archaeologists."
Tuba
Oct 13 2000
"The women in the tomb were highly ornamented. The ibex (goat above) was made of lapis lazuli which was available only in Afghanistan at the time. Evidence amassed thus far by Schwartz and Curvers indicates that Tubaarose as a political and economic center around 2500 BC, with a population of 5,000 to 7,500 people. The city, which was on a major east-west trade route that connected the Mediterranean coast with upper Mesopotamia, collapsed and was abandoned around 2100 BC possibly due to drought, only to resurrect itself as the primary urban center of the Jabbul plain until around 1200 BC."

31 posted on 08/31/2018 11:59:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: BenLurkin

How could Neanderthals die off? I thought they “evolved”.


32 posted on 08/31/2018 11:59:17 AM PDT by upsdriver
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To: BenLurkin

Given that Europeans have roughly 2% Neanderthal DNA I think there are two main factors that led to their extinction as a sub species of humanity: 1, absorption by the larger human populations coming out of Africa and 2, African diseases (rightly feared even today) probably wiped out the vast majority of Neanderthals just as Old World diseases wiped out up to 90% of Native American peoples.


33 posted on 08/31/2018 12:07:32 PM PDT by WMarshal (America First)
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To: editor-surveyor

“The Neanderthals are very much still here among us.”

Cave asshole indeed did survive.


34 posted on 08/31/2018 12:10:17 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: BenLurkin
Science is a method, not a body of knowledge. Explanations work unless and until there is newly available evidence.

35 posted on 08/31/2018 12:25:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: dfwgator

Looks like excess CO2. Imagine how terrible the ice ages would have been without our mitigation efforts.


36 posted on 08/31/2018 12:29:43 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: BenLurkin

Must have been the fossil fuels


37 posted on 08/31/2018 1:56:35 PM PDT by spincaster ( AM A)
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To: Parmy

The cromags drove pwee-uthses and used solar panels while the b’s stuck to their suvs and fossil fuels.

It seriously does not make a lot of sense.


38 posted on 08/31/2018 3:10:00 PM PDT by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: BenLurkin

Climate Change killed the radio star...


39 posted on 08/31/2018 3:43:25 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: M Kehoe

Beat me to it, I guess!


40 posted on 08/31/2018 3:44:36 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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