Latest 'Flat Earth' theory says Australia is FAKE - and if you think you've been there, you're wrong

The Daily Mirror ^ | Jeff Parsons

[Simon Green]

There's a growing number of people who seem to think the world is, in fact, flat.

But it gets better. They also insist that Australia is actually just one big hoax.

According to a viral Facebook rant, the entire country (and presumably the 24 million people that live there) is completely FAKE.

The idea resurfaced at a recent gathering of so-called Flat Earthers in Birmingham recently where over 200 people came together to confirm to each other that the Earth is nothing more than a giant pancake.

The origin of the "fake Australia" post started on Reddit back in 2017 and was written by a Shelley Floryd. But it appears to be back in the minds of the spherically-challenged at the moment.

"Australia is not real," the rant begins.

"It's a hoax, made for us to believe that Britain moved over their criminals to someplace. In reality, all these criminals were loaded off the ships into the waters, drowning before they could see land ever again.

"It's a coverup [sic] for one of the greatest mass murders in history."

Moreover, the post reckons that all Australians are nothing more than computer generated personas and if you've ever been Down Under yourself: "you're terribly wrong".

Hilariously, the pilots are apparently all in on it - and have just been flying you to parts of South America all these years.

Flat Earth theories have been shot down by just about everyone capable of rational thought, but the theory is still enjoying a current resurgence.

Over 200 conspiracy theorists gathered at a hotel in Birmingham for the UK’s first Flat Earth Convention.

The convention, which took place over three days, saw nine speakers take to the stage to explain their theory as to why the Earth is flat.

[kosciusko51]

I think you do not understand the word guided when it comes to artillery. Once an unguided munition is fired, there is no ability for course correction.

A guided munition has control surfaces thait can cause course correction. Not all guided munitions can hit moving target or used for air-to-air combat. Most smart bombs fall into this category.

Looking at this weapon, it is clear that the fins can rotate about an axis, allowing for in-flight course correction. Also, let's look at what the article says in full on this:

Guidance. The HVP is claimed to be guided but that’s true only in a limited sense. The guidance is GPS and is applicable only against fixed, land targets with known GPS coordinates. Useful guidance is not possible against moving land targets or aerial targets due to the extreme speed of the projectile.

One of the “side effects” of speed is inertia. The faster an object moves, the slower and harder it is to alter its course. Faster means a larger turn radius. A WWI Fokker Triplane has immensely greater maneuverability than a modern F-16 because the F-16 has such high speed. An HVP traveling at Mach 7 cannot easily change course. An incoming cruise missile traveling at high subsonic speeds, for example, would be far more maneuverable than a Mach 7 HVP which is, for practical purposes in that scenario, ballistic and non-maneuverable.

What the author is pointing out is not that it is not guided, but it is not as maneuverable as the subsonic cruise missile. He says it is not easy to change course, not that it cannot change course. This would still allow for level flight, depending on how the control system works.

[knarf]

heh heh ... of COURSE.

But the title says you are wrong if you think you were there.

BTW ... I haven't read the article

[SkyDancer]

Well some of the brews they have sure make you think you were someplace else.LOL

[knarf]

Nuthin' subliminal in THAT seduction.

BTW, now that I think about it, I'll venture this book was my start in politics .... just because it made me wary, suspicious and snoopy.

[philman_36]

They're stabilizing fins, not flight fins!

And this...
An incoming cruise missile traveling at high subsonic speeds, for example, would be far more maneuverable than a Mach 7 HVP which is, for practical purposes in that scenario, ballistic and non-maneuverable.

Nice try.

[philman_36]

I'll make it more simple for you...
Rail Gun Projectile Cost
One of the selling points of the rail gun was that the projectiles would be much cheaper than any existing munition because the projectile would be an inert lump.
sNIP...A second limitation is that the projectiles are unguided although a guidance package is being studied. Thus, the projectile can’t track moving targets and can’t accept laser guidance. The targets must be fixed and the co-ordinates known.

And I stand corrected...the picture you show is of a future, proposed maneuverable round that hasn't even been made yet.
To complement the prototype railgun BAE Systems is developing for the U.S. Navy, the company is also working on the Hyper Velocity Projectile (HVP). Equipped with accurate guidance electronics for in-flight maneuverability, the HVP features a low drag aerodynamic design enabling it to fly at high velocity and decreasing time-to-target. Not limited to use only with electromagnetic railguns, variants of the HVP are also in development for conventional artillery like the Navy’s 5-inch (127-mm), 62-caliber Mk 45 Mod 4 gun system, as well as the 155-mm Advanced Gun System (AGS).

The other rounds are the ones in use. You get a point though, but for practical purposes, just like the article says, it will be pretty much non-maneuverable.
I'm man enough to admit my error.

Now back to the issue. What have you got that proves the Earth isn't flat. Show me and I'll admit I'm wrong.

[gigster]

The Flat Earth- Thomas Dolby, Capitol Records-1984.

[Windflier]

See 56. I'm not the one believing a lie any longer. Mock God at your own peril. You've been informed so I wash my hands of you.

I'm not mocking anyone, including you.

I invited you to explain to everyone why the spheroid earth concept is a lie, and you put up a gif of the sun and moon rotating around a central axis point of our planet.

If that's true for Earth, then it must also be true for every planet in our solar system, but that's not even remotely possible.

Oh wait.... You quoted Scripture, so that means that God himself has deemed that our solar system works the way your silly model shows it, and "That's that, mister!." You don't have to explain its obvious flaws.

Neat trick, but that argument fell apart back in the time of Copernicus. I s'pose you never heard of him, but that's okay. He's just some dude who overturned a millennia of superstition and backward thinking with observation, mathematics, and deductive reasoning.

[Windflier]

I just noticed that poster sontagged hasn’t answered your question in six hours.

[kosciusko51]

First answer my question why the sun and moon do not get smaller as the approach the horizon.

[kosciusko51]

Thank you for admitting your error. And I would say that any control system would be mostly for correcting deviations from the planned trajectory.

By the way, did you notice that it has a GPS guidance system. GPS - Global Positioning Satellite.

[Hotmetal]

Do you belong to Nathan Thompson’s cult?

[philman_36]

Do you belong to Nathan Thompson’s cult?

I don't even know who that is. Since you know more about him than I do, do you?

[philman_36]

Also, if the sun moves away from us, why does it not get smaller?

Are the street lights getting smaller?

[jmcenanly]

Considering the amount of lethal wildlife, from saltwater crocodiles to ultravenomous spuders, I think that they are taking the “Here there be dragons’ thing just a little too far.

[Hotmetal]

No, but I follow his flat earth FB page for my daily laughs.

[Hotmetal]

No, but I follow his flat earth FB page for my daily laughs.

[philman_36]

Unbelievable Horizons

Riiiiight, Copernicus.
How about what can be seen with your own eyes?

Using Only a Camera, Trace the Solar Analemma and Plot the Solstice

The Sun traces a figure eight pattern in the sky when viewed at the same time every day for a year. This pattern, called an analemma, allows you to know when the solstices occurred. Image courtesy Jailbird

Why does the Sun trace this odd path? The reasons boil down to two facts. First, the Earth is titled at an angle when it rotates, and second, the Earth has an eccentric orbit–it orbits in an ellipse as it revolves around the Sun.

So why isn't the tilt reflected in temperature variances?

Shouldn't the analemma be a different shape, a true figure eight with equal parts on each side, if the Earth were round?

Here's a question for you...How did NASA send people through the Van Allen radiation belt without the people dying from radiation exposure?

Why didn't the Apollo space capsules send off clouds of steam when they landed in the ocean? They had to have been hot, like in the picture of the Shuttle above, right?

Why are the stars we see in the night sky still reliable for navigation if we're going through such a convoluted path of movement?

[philman_36]

Researchers working on the Hypersonic Thermodynamic InfraRed Measurements (HYTHIRM) project have imaged three shuttle flights so far, including the latest pictures from the landing of the space shuttle Discovery.
If the Shuttle is a glider during reentry and landing then why is there such a large hot spot at the rear of the craft where an engine would typically be on an aircraft?

[philman_36]

No, but I follow his flat earth FB page for my daily laughs.

Wow! Daily, for laughs. Sounds like Internet stalking to me.
Do you correspond or do you just peek, Tom?