The Goyet Fossil from the Paleolithic era that Drake and Coquerelle determined is actually a wolf.
Posted on 02/06/2015 11:03:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv
When did dogs first become domesticated? A sophisticated new 3D fossil analysis by biologists Abby Grace Drake, visiting assistant professor of biology at Skidmore, and Michael Coquerelle of the University Rey Juan Carlos contradicts the suggested domestication of dogs during the late Paleolithic era (about 30,000 years ago), and reestablishes the date of domestication to around 15,000 years ago...
Whether dogs were domesticated during the Paleolithic era, when humans were hunter-gatherers, or the Neolithic era, when humans began to form permanent settlements and take up farming, is a subject of ongoing scientific debate. Original fossil finds placed dog domestication in the Neolithic, during the time when humans began to form permanent settlements and started to farm. However, genetic analyses have often contradicted this date, claiming that dogs were domesticated much earlier. Recent fossils found in Russia and Belgium have been used as evidence for dogs being domesticated as early as the late Paleolithic, when humans were hunter-gatherers...
Drake and Coquerelle proposed a 3D method for measuring the canid skulls and re-assessed the Paleolithic fossils from Russia and Belgium. When they compared the form of these canids to that of modern and ancient wolves and dogs from North America and Europe, they were surprised to find that these fossils, once presumed to be dogs, were in fact wolves.
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The Goyet Fossil from the Paleolithic era that Drake and Coquerelle determined is actually a wolf.
Dogs were smart enough to recognize a superior species that could utilize them and incorporate them into their superior society and more predictable and organized living conditions.
Cats are like the charming hitchhiker guy who was going to spend a few nights on your couch, and 3 months later you watch him going to your refrigerator and realize, what the heck? Does he live here now?
Two big wolves come into my front yard once in a while to eat the raccoon food. They just stand there and growl until I throw them some meat. I did come about 6 feet away from them once. They just stood there and growled til I brought them some meat. They didn`t bother the raccoons neither coz they knew I had the best meat.
If they are around, the coydogs nor mountain lions are nowhere to be heard nor seen.
I think when early man/woman hunted game, the wolf pack followed for scraps coz it was easier than hunting. The pack in return guarded them at night from the lions cos a wolf pack ain`t one bit afraid of a fire nor lions at night.
They should be able to measure the differences in RNA between wolves and dogs to get some idea.
These folks are ignoramuses. From the moment we made fire there have been pupies to sit beside us. That means from the time it began till. It ends.
I wouldn’t be surprised, since the dog/human relationship seems so natural and almost predetermined or predictable.
During the height of the feminist movement of the 70s and 80s, I used to say that God made dogs for us, to make up for making women.
Meaning how loyal, honest and true, dogs are.
True. And God made woman because sheep can't cook.
Doggie ping!
I’ve known some dogs that weren’t domesticated yet!
“I’ve known some dogs that weren’t domesticated yet!”
I have also known some women that were a long way from domesticated.
A good Digest ping as well.
I’ve got a new pup and he still isn’t domesticated.
They’d better wear some heavy clothes.
Opinion: We Didn’t Domesticate Dogs. They Domesticated Us.
National Geographic News | March 3, 2013 | Brian Hare and Vanessa Woods
Posted on 03/03/2013 4:02:35 PM PST by nickcarraway
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No, No, Bad Dog: Dogs in the Bible
Israelite attitudes toward dogs
Ellen White
01/26/2015
http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/hebrew-bible/dogs-in-the-bible/
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I suspect the movement towards domestication was a gradual process. In the wild, a large animal carcass is often consumed by several species, in turn. Typically, the predators get first pick, followed by several kinds of scavenger.
Once humans were done with a carcass, wild canines who had been waiting on the sidelines would take over. Unlike big cats that would attack the humans, the canines were patient, and realized if they just waited, they could get theirs without having to fight for it.
However, humans learned a trick, perhaps from watching the wild canines, that they could drive a herd of animals to fall off a cliff, and have enough meat to dry it over a fire and haul it a good distance to their permanent camp.
And this abundance was such that the canines could join right in and not have to wait.
In modern times, a Russian experiment with domesticating silver foxes worked very rapidly, in just a few generations, turning these foxes in effect, into dogs.
So when they finally got the chance to domesticate, wild canines did so rapidly.
This is a classic case of a theory not being dead until all it's proponents kick the bucket.
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